I really enjoyed the first game, not AAA new game price enjoyment though. I mean, I got as much fun out of it while playing as I have anything else, it just wasn’t as rich and deep as a fallout game. I give it a pass since it’s establishing a new universe but as much as I liked it, it’s most certainly a blue light special fallout clone.
So, asking inflated AAA prices seems, somewhat short sighted. I’d absolutely pay what I did for the first game, 80 bucks is a hard no for me though. I might buy it when it’s cheaper, but by then I’ll likely have seen enough clips, read enough reviews and gotten busy enough to just forget about it.
If you assume 25% of player will buy at 80, 50% will buy at $50, and 25% will buy at $20. Per 100 buyers they stand to make $5,000. However if they start at $50 with 75% of buys buying at that price, they will make $4,250. This is about maximizing profit by selling to fans with deep pockets first then discounting latter to captured the rest of the player base.
But what they don’t take into account is that 75% all at once creates an excitement buzz around the game that ends up causing even more sales then would ever happen otherwise. Look at games like Pokémon go or PalWorld that generated so much buzz. I tried both of them because of the hype and I normally wouldn’t have bothered otherwise.
With a game like there has probably been existence market research to account for how much buzz the game will get. They may even be counting on the buzz to sell more copies at full price.
That tactic would work if it was a multiplayer game or a major franchise but with a single player cookie cutter game there’s no urgency for me to get started and no FOMO. It just isn’t that interesting of an IP
People still will, because lots of people spoil, some like watching streaming etc. When new stuff comes out and I’m not ready to start it, it often also involves stop visiting certain communities, discords, etc.
right, so that would put you into the 50% or the lower 25%, but there are people that will buy higher price, and as long as there is 1% willing to buy before the first sale it is worth it for them.
Just as heads up, Obsidian, I’ll require this to be at least 75% off if it’s good and over 20 hours of single-player campaign. If it’s shorter, I can be enticed at 90% off. I’ll wait for a few years, no problem, my family group backlog is in the thousands.
Seriously! I got a $50 steam gift card for Christmas, bought one full price dlc (Shadow of the Erdtree) and like five or so indie games that I’ve put way more time in!
I bought the first one for $20. For the second I’ll play on Game Pass, if it is available, or again wait for $20. Maybe even less if I forget about it, which I might.
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As long as it doesn’t have Denovu, we can!
What is Denonvu?
A DRM that is notorious for being not only hard to crack, but also causes performance issues in the games that use it.
Denuvo, not whatever you said
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It’s what I do with Denuvo games. De non vue.
Oh no, someone misspelt a brand name, whatever shall we do
IDK but I hope someone comes along with an answer
Fit Girl Repacks here we go.
Games were $60 three decades ago, inflation hits us all.
Pretty much. Greedy publishers are just following Nintendo’s lead that they can fleece gamers for more.
Its cause absolute idiots keep preordering digital products at full price.
Microsoft makes the world worse again. Fuck ms, go linux.
I really enjoyed the first game, not AAA new game price enjoyment though. I mean, I got as much fun out of it while playing as I have anything else, it just wasn’t as rich and deep as a fallout game. I give it a pass since it’s establishing a new universe but as much as I liked it, it’s most certainly a blue light special fallout clone.
So, asking inflated AAA prices seems, somewhat short sighted. I’d absolutely pay what I did for the first game, 80 bucks is a hard no for me though. I might buy it when it’s cheaper, but by then I’ll likely have seen enough clips, read enough reviews and gotten busy enough to just forget about it.
Bummer.
It’ll go on sale for $15 eventually. I can wait.
The evolution of game design has basically been dead for a few years now, so shouldn’t the process just get cheaper?
Fidelity and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the budget size
For AAA games, maybe, but not for indie. The best and most innovative games out there are not made by major studios.
This is a ‘AAA’ game.
I meant generally about game design. I’m not talking about this game, although it looks interesting.
Obsidian hasn’t been an indie for at least 7 years now.
80? What the hell?
If you assume 25% of player will buy at 80, 50% will buy at $50, and 25% will buy at $20. Per 100 buyers they stand to make $5,000. However if they start at $50 with 75% of buys buying at that price, they will make $4,250. This is about maximizing profit by selling to fans with deep pockets first then discounting latter to captured the rest of the player base.
But what they don’t take into account is that 75% all at once creates an excitement buzz around the game that ends up causing even more sales then would ever happen otherwise. Look at games like Pokémon go or PalWorld that generated so much buzz. I tried both of them because of the hype and I normally wouldn’t have bothered otherwise.
With a game like there has probably been existence market research to account for how much buzz the game will get. They may even be counting on the buzz to sell more copies at full price.
Being that it’s a known game and this is a sequel you may very well be right.
That tactic would work if it was a multiplayer game or a major franchise but with a single player cookie cutter game there’s no urgency for me to get started and no FOMO. It just isn’t that interesting of an IP
Space rats make it a buy for me, but I’ll still wait until it’s 75% off.
Also very true. I’ll just wait.
People still will, because lots of people spoil, some like watching streaming etc. When new stuff comes out and I’m not ready to start it, it often also involves stop visiting certain communities, discords, etc.
right, so that would put you into the 50% or the lower 25%, but there are people that will buy higher price, and as long as there is 1% willing to buy before the first sale it is worth it for them.
So if we assume the world is a magical place where poor people don’t exist, it makes perfect sense.
That is exactly how people making these decisions think. Its all numbers to them, there are no people involved in their thinking.
Just as heads up, Obsidian, I’ll require this to be at least 75% off if it’s good and over 20 hours of single-player campaign. If it’s shorter, I can be enticed at 90% off. I’ll wait for a few years, no problem, my family group backlog is in the thousands.
Them: “we don’t set the price”.
You: “I’ll buy it if you set a lower price”.
So people don’t even read the headlines anymore?
No, I’ve seen it, that is feedback and it should be invaluable to all interested parties, not only those who set the price.
i will continue to enjoy my indie games that cost me 5€, thanks.
better yet my free games like warframe that have cost me nothing and given me thousands of hours of enjoyment.
Seriously! I got a $50 steam gift card for Christmas, bought one full price dlc (Shadow of the Erdtree) and like five or so indie games that I’ve put way more time in!
If its as light as the first one, all I can say is “YARRRG”
It’s definitely going to have Denuvo at launch
That is OK we can wait.
As will I
But can we focus on optimizing games so thst it runs on the most potato of potato PCs ??
I think that’ll work wonders along with the pricing
Then why DRM?
I bought the first one for $20. For the second I’ll play on Game Pass, if it is available, or again wait for $20. Maybe even less if I forget about it, which I might.
One of the theories behind this game’s price is Microsoft is trying to force more people onto the premium game pass.