You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.
Always has been unless you count modding to remove this kind of shitty DRM.
Nintendo was the company to popularize DRM in home consoles with the US release of the NES. The Famicom had no DRM even though it was identical hardware otherwise (well, that, the RF modulator, and the PCB layout).
I’ve been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I’m not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.
Sony tried that in Brazil, but it didn’t go as planned. The court ordered them to unbrick it, but they had to provide a new console because they couldn’t unbrick it. And they paid damages.
At this point I’m surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.
They can “reserve the right” all they want, that’s illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I’d love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.
I’d like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that “permanently unusable in whole or in part” includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it’s the user’s fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.
But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don’t like. That is absolutely dystopian.
At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn’t seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.
Wait, it doesn’t appear to be the same within the EU.
Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.
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Ah. So now we’re merely ‘licensing’ physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?
You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.
Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.
Always has been unless you count modding to remove this kind of shitty DRM.
Nintendo was the company to popularize DRM in home consoles with the US release of the NES. The Famicom had no DRM even though it was identical hardware otherwise (well, that, the RF modulator, and the PCB layout).
That’s cool. I’ll install Torzu on my ROG ally and play all the fucking switch games I want to.
That’s it, I’m going to skip Switch 2 and get a Steam Deck next. And I’ll stick to stuff that can run Dolphin.
(Learns that Xbox Series can also run Dolphin without modding) Well shit, I’m set for life, now just need to sort out the portable console situation
I know it should have been earlier, but that really is the last straw for buying Nintendo products for me.
what a shame.
I’ve been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I’m not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.
Sony tried that in Brazil, but it didn’t go as planned. The court ordered them to unbrick it, but they had to provide a new console because they couldn’t unbrick it. And they paid damages.
Cool! Time to go to the sea for more nintendo stuff! Good think you cant brick a device you dont have control over 😘
At this point I’m surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.
Don’t give them any ideas
They can “reserve the right” all they want, that’s illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I’d love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.
I’d like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that “permanently unusable in whole or in part” includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it’s the user’s fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.
But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don’t like. That is absolutely dystopian.
At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn’t seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.
With the price of software it will be interesting to see how it goes. I think they jumped the gun a bit hard on that one and will have to backpedal.
i kind of want the steam deck to eat the switch and i really don’t have a dog in the fight
A steam deck lite would probably dominate, lol
It’s a nice thought, at least.
Wait, it doesn’t appear to be the same within the EU.
Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.
That corporation is still stuck in 1985 or 1989 (otherwise stuck in the Showa Era), trying to keep absolute control of anything it made.
The 1980s were before the DMCA. In those days if you bought an expensive piece of electronics both seller and buyer expected that you owned it.
i can’t wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.