"Like, 'we're gonna have 20% more ray tracing'. Okay?"
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We’d get a pretty good game format OS—if the players could agree to come together—and then licence that out. Just like we do with Blu-ray, just like we do with the compact disk—and let people compete on content.

I know this is the most Lemmy comment it’s possible to make, but oh, if only there were an OS that already exists that you could run games on and that didn’t even need licencing out!

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FreeBSD, right ?

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ReactOS. Or TempleOS if you’re feeling holy.

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Temple only runs family friendly games. And the entire doom series, which has been deemed sufficiently holy

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I play PC because my copy of StarCraft from like 2000 still works and I can use any computer/gaming peripheral in history that still physically works to this day on a PC. A PC is more compatible with PS4 peripherals/gamepads than a PS5. Plus not paying for the privilege to play multiplayer games that a developer is hosting in AWS

The experience being so similar between a PC and a console is more an indictment on locked down PCs as consoles than against PC. E-waste

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Bam! Fucking mic drop!

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You can also upgrade it part by part, and not have to let the entire thing get replaced every cycle.

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My PC is so backwards compatible it can run games meant for OS’s my OS’s main competitor, and their ancestors as well.

Better yet it can literally run those OS’s over things like KVM/Qemu and DOSBox.

I guess Nintendo made that Wii container for Wii U like once lol.

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To be fair, connecting some of the hardware I used in the 80ies is not straight-forward. But not impossible.

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Start with a normal (as in one ofmy choice) web browser being installable on them, next step is opening to other marketplaces (lol).

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That’s going to happen in only a few years, with the next Xbox.

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There is no built-in (usable) browser on ps5 nor switch, and nintendo will burn to the ground before allowing people installing their own software on ‘their’ hardware.

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No one can predict the future, especially not now, but things are clearly changing. Microsoft is getting messaging out there right now to let you know the ways that they’re rolling with the punches. The next Xbox, and corresponding handhelds, will in all likelihood just be thinly disguised PCs that absolutely let you just install Steam, Epic, etc. on them if you so choose. So in that world, when you can buy an Xbox that also plays PlayStation games that have released on PC, how does Sony compete with that? That’s very up in the air.

And for all the ways that Nintendo has historically handled consoles, they’re under new management now that may be open to doing things differently. The way they’re trying to press their market advantage at the moment, which was already going to result in fewer units sold, could be even further undone at the worst possible time for them by a stupid trade war. How will they choose to respond to that? Because bleeding money by sticking to their old ways isn’t going to be what happens. If they did burn to the ground, the insurance company that owns their intellectual property would dig them out of the ashes and sell them where they can make money again.

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The Xbox once did have a version of Internet Explorer on it, I remember.

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Very unbiased source there.

I’m primarily a PC gamer but I buy ALL THE VIDEO GAME THINGS, so I have every console that comes out, even if I’m only going to play one game on it (looking at you, Returnal). Who is he trying to convince? Cause he’s full of shit.

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Nah im pretty sure my pc cooling fans are a bit louder than my ps5 ones, and they’re not that high pitched.

I can definitely hear the difference between my PC and my PS5.

My PC’s fans are way louder than my PS5.

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Stop buying cheap fans?

My last two PCs I built were top of the line and they’re basically silent just with Noctua air cooling.

It’s literally the GPU’s (a 1660 Super) fan that’s loudest. I can’t change that out, afaik. The case fans are Noctuas and the CPU has a Corsair AIO liquid cooler.

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Surprised it’s your GPU fans that are the loudest, I barely hear my 3080 and I regularly heard the CPU cooling fans, but then again I most play strategy games that heavily bottlenecked by CPU.

GPU fan noise is not something that’s easily fixable, unlike CPU cooling.

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Yes you can; 3rd party GPU coolers are a thing and they’re not difficult to install.

(And next time I’d advise reading reviews before buying a GPU, especially the noise level section.)

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LOL, imagine thinking you’d ever actually have a wide selection of in-stock GPUs to choose from and wouldn’t have to settle for what you can get.

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Ah yeah not much you can do about that unless you put an aftermarket cooler on it and that’s a PITA.

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You can just buy those adapter cables that lets you connect PWM case fans to your GPU and just jury rig the fans onto your GPU. Not the best looking setup. But I rather have a silent PC than a good looking pc. Like you hear your PC constantly while you only look at your PC once in a while.

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Hahahahahahaha…ahh hahaha

… Oh wait he’s serious? Get f u c k Ed

Like hell they are not

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not for nothing, the one-standard-multiple-manufactuters thing has been done before with sony and microsoft both involved. the real truth of this article is that the people yearn for MSX

joking aside i’d love to see something like that come back, because you get the convienence of a set standard that makes games Just Work like they do on consoles while offering way more options to consumers. i guess once the floodgates open on third party steamOS machines we’ll be halfway there

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By sheer compatibility, we’re well more than halfway there.

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I’ll be honest I find the ray tracing shit s gimmick that eats up too much resource. I’d much rather just have some awesome games to play, with good looks or not. PC gaming for me has always been about variety anyway. The console looking better never meant anything.

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Its supporters claim that in some ways it’s meant to make development easier; that it simplifies many lighting tricks devs handle manually.

I don’t necessarily think it’s a strong enough point since it’s often throwing hardware at a creativity/effort problem.

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I’d actually never heard this angle but sounds legit. Cutting corners sounds pretty typical of talking head yltyoes that want to try to cut costs no matter what.

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I honestly think some console games look pretty good and perform well. It’s hard to have something optimized when the hardware is so diverse. Similar to iPhone vs android. With that said, PC games without some ass backwards “copy protection” and “anti-cheat” will always be excluded from my lists.

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What a fucking moronic statement.

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