PAYDAY 3 is one of the most anticipated cooperative titles of this 2023 that will allow us to enjoy alone or accompanied by friends (or other players) a lot
The official Steam page for Deep Silver and Starbreeze’s PAYDAY 3 game has been updated to show the use of this ever-controversial third-party DRM.
I could be misremembering and I’m not going to look it up right now, but I believe Payday 2 lost to corpo greed long ago when they added a bunch of microtransactions. There was also something about the original devs being screwed over if memory serves.
Personally, I’m fine with mtx if it supports continual development of a game i paid for and enjoyed prior to them being added. As long as the actual meaningful game additions are free or 1-time transactions.
What i don’t like is constant FOMO based p2w mechanics that are a requirement to play in any meaningful way, like most mobile time walled games. I also don’t like when corpos make decisions like adding DRM to an always online game, that is known to impact users, just points to a devs inability or a monetary kick back of said 3rd party drm to the devs shareholders.
It’ll be on game pass so I’ll probably still test it out, but I really don’t get why a Payday game would need anti-piracy measures since the whole point is to play co-op
As usual, any announcement of Denuvo in a PC game is met with immediate ire, ostensibly from the gaming community. But you already knew that Denuvo doesn’t affect performance unless it’s configured to make an extreme amount of checks, and it definitely doesn’t ruin hard drives. You wouldn’t share reactionary misinformation would you?
Be honest. You just hate that pirating the game is going to be more difficult.
We don’t already know it doesn’t impact performance, we don’t know what checks it will make, and we don’t know that denuvo ACTUALLY impacts sale numbers by convincing those mean old pirates to buy their game.
That’s what reviews are for. If the game runs poorly, don’t buy it. Whether the bad performance is caused by Denuvo is irrelevant to my purchasing decisions.
There have been good and bad implementations of Denuvo. It’s disingenuous to pretend all games go one way or the other when there are so many examples of both. Supposedly review outlets like Digital Foundry will soon get access to protected and non-protected builds of new games so that they can directly measure any performance impact.
Calling people shills is really shitty behavior. All you’re doing is inciting conflict, not contributing to any rational discussion.
we don’t know that denuvo ACTUALLY impacts sale numbers by convincing those mean old pirates to buy their game
But we do know it improves sales, that’s why every game publisher that can afford it is using it. They have years of data to prove it. What do you have?
IIRC payday 2 had glacially slow progression at launch. Now what if you could simply pay some (more) money to skip those boring early levels this time around?
I looked into it some more and it seems there was a “shady” script you could use to grant yourself any piece of paid dlc you wanted, so The Money People probably asked how they could ensure that doesn’t happen again and just didn’t care about the drawbacks for regular people.
Overkill blew all their money with that WW2 spin off. And it crashed so hard there was a John Cleese shaped crater where it hit rock bottom.
They were only able to make Payday 3 with significant external investment. So basically, PD3 is going to be a gutted and whored game since those investors will get significant say what goes into the game. Denuovo just being the most obvious right now.
You’re right. And even disregarding always online and/or GaaS elements if it’s anything like the other two PAYDAY games there is pretty much no reason to play it offline. It is a co-op game through and through.
The price of this game makes it one you should definitely be a patient gamer on. Not only will you save a ton of money but it’ll probably be Denuvo free eventually too.
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I could be misremembering and I’m not going to look it up right now, but I believe Payday 2 lost to corpo greed long ago when they added a bunch of microtransactions. There was also something about the original devs being screwed over if memory serves.
I remember an apology being issued about it iirc.
Personally, I’m fine with mtx if it supports continual development of a game i paid for and enjoyed prior to them being added. As long as the actual meaningful game additions are free or 1-time transactions.
What i don’t like is constant FOMO based p2w mechanics that are a requirement to play in any meaningful way, like most mobile time walled games. I also don’t like when corpos make decisions like adding DRM to an always online game, that is known to impact users, just points to a devs inability or a monetary kick back of said 3rd party drm to the devs shareholders.
Shitty situation overall however :(
It’ll be on game pass so I’ll probably still test it out, but I really don’t get why a Payday game would need anti-piracy measures since the whole point is to play co-op
As usual, any announcement of Denuvo in a PC game is met with immediate ire, ostensibly from the gaming community. But you already knew that Denuvo doesn’t affect performance unless it’s configured to make an extreme amount of checks, and it definitely doesn’t ruin hard drives. You wouldn’t share reactionary misinformation would you?
Be honest. You just hate that pirating the game is going to be more difficult.
You are correct, but you’re getting downvoted by people who buy into FUD or are just upset that they can’t get cracks day 1 like they used to.
Be honest, you’re a denuvo/DRM shill.
We don’t already know it doesn’t impact performance, we don’t know what checks it will make, and we don’t know that denuvo ACTUALLY impacts sale numbers by convincing those mean old pirates to buy their game.
That’s what reviews are for. If the game runs poorly, don’t buy it. Whether the bad performance is caused by Denuvo is irrelevant to my purchasing decisions.
There have been good and bad implementations of Denuvo. It’s disingenuous to pretend all games go one way or the other when there are so many examples of both. Supposedly review outlets like Digital Foundry will soon get access to protected and non-protected builds of new games so that they can directly measure any performance impact.
Calling people shills is really shitty behavior. All you’re doing is inciting conflict, not contributing to any rational discussion.
But we do know it improves sales, that’s why every game publisher that can afford it is using it. They have years of data to prove it. What do you have?
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Franchise died to me after they promised no microtransaction then months later made it worse than a gatcha game.
To be fair, after they switched publishers, they did away with the gacha nonsense
They also released a version that included all the DLC and then walked back that promise.
Oh, this game’s gonna have a rough launch won’t it?
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Golden Rule: Denuvo games exist if and only if cracked by EMPRESS
“Payday 3 guarantees an objecticely worse user experience at launch on pc version”
Bro who tf is stealing Payday let alone to play alone. What a waste of money and a fuck you to paying customers.
That’s the thing, the game is already online only, why do they need anti piracy DRM on top of it?
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I don’t see any reason for denuvo to impose region restrictions and I hope that isn’t the case considering online stores already do this!
I think it may be more anti-cheat than anti-piracy, but Denuvo in particular can fuck itself
It`s a co-op game, who cares about cheaters?
IIRC payday 2 had glacially slow progression at launch. Now what if you could simply pay some (more) money to skip those boring early levels this time around?
Okay, so I wouldn’t care, but yeah if they want to sell progression…
I looked into it some more and it seems there was a “shady” script you could use to grant yourself any piece of paid dlc you wanted, so The Money People probably asked how they could ensure that doesn’t happen again and just didn’t care about the drawbacks for regular people.
Oh believe me, people got hyphy in PD2 about mods and stuff, even HUDs and QOL mods got peoples’ hackles up.
That’s dumb. Those people suck. :P
The PD2 community’s fuckin’ weird sometimes.
The people that make money off of it’s monetization. I’ll have to assume they’ll have some sort of season pass.
Overkill blew all their money with that WW2 spin off. And it crashed so hard there was a John Cleese shaped crater where it hit rock bottom.
They were only able to make Payday 3 with significant external investment. So basically, PD3 is going to be a gutted and whored game since those investors will get significant say what goes into the game. Denuovo just being the most obvious right now.
Arent Deep Silver the guys who fecked up the new Saints Row?
Yes they are
Isn’t the game going to be online only in the first place? They’re adding DRM on top of their DRM?
“Yo dawg! Heard you like DRM!”
You’re right. And even disregarding always online and/or GaaS elements if it’s anything like the other two PAYDAY games there is pretty much no reason to play it offline. It is a co-op game through and through.
Boooo.
The price of this game makes it one you should definitely be a patient gamer on. Not only will you save a ton of money but it’ll probably be Denuvo free eventually too.
Good to know I should download the free version instead