I mean… For this to actually matter Sony would have to release a decent game for the exclustivity. The last decent one in my eyes was Ragnarok, and I never even finished it.
I have a PS5. It hasen’t been turned on in almost 2 years. I have no reason to. I won’t lose any sleep over this decision.
It’s the first time I read these games referred as Red and Blue (like Pokemon editions, lol). Why not just call it Miles Morales, if you have to specify what it is with additional brackets anyway? Is this common way to refer like that?
That’s because Miles Morales isn’t a complete new game, it is basically a DLC released as a separate game. I never played any of these games and this is just what I got when reading about it at launch.
yup. if they can emulate the ps3’s insano-architecture they can sure as fuck figure out whatever comes next. they’re simply guaranteeing a wave of piracy instead of profiting off their already developed IPs.
Exactly! They’ll cut jobs and trim the fat until they run out of half-assed, short-term methods of increasing quarterly profits year over year. Then they’ll remember PC gamers are almost exclusively adults and some of those adults have deep pockets and no interest in the closed ecosystems that consoles provide.
Lol they will not. The next Xbox is literally going to be a PC with a full Windows OS. Sony is not going to become Xbox and give people no reason to stay in their ecosystem.
They also sold 98 million ps5s. All the delulus in this thread acting like their money matters when it doesn’t. Most of the Sony games sold poorly on steam. PC gamers aren’t worth the effort.
I can almost guarantee you that dude has a board or shareholders or whatever, breathing down his neck, and his yearly bonus is depending on the number of units sold. So he will canibalize the whole system with a complete disregard for the long term effects, so long as the magic number goes up in the short term and he can cash in his bonus.
Can they both fail? Consoles kind of suck. Closed platform owned by mega corps. Their main appeals of “easy” and “cheaper” haven’t been true for years.
Microsoft could have done like a … Steam machine for windows like 25 years ago. Optimized windows install on certified hardware, games that also play on desktop windows. They could’ve made steam. Except they couldn’t because they’re a souless corporate husk full of parasitic ghouls.
Their main appeals of “easy” and “cheaper” haven’t been true for years.
Please help me get a machine that compares to the PS5/XSX in terms of performance and cost. I’m being serious. Every time I look at putting something together it’s gonna be like $1500-$2000.
The up-front cost of a console is probably cheaper, barring putting some labor in and getting lucky on sales. You’re right about that.
A PC has more utility, a larger library, and no subscription fee. That $80/year PsPlus subscription eats into the savings pretty fast. And when your playstation is end-of-life, it’s far less useful than an older PC.
I’m sure some PC-building nerds would be happy to help put together a cost effective machine for you, but sadly I’m not that kind of nerd. I splurged on a pre-built machine when I had a nice job.
25 years ago, they weren’t going to get any closer than the original Xbox did. PC gaming was extraordinarily different from what we know today, and much as you might not want to hear it, a lot of the reasons it got better were also because of Microsoft. The truth is we can only have something like a Steam Machine today because of incremental improvements that have been done over long periods of time. Valve basically started work on Proton right after the first batch of Steam Machines came out and bombed, and it took until 2022 for their next batch of hardware to materialize that made use of it. Closed platforms can fuck off and die these days, but they solved real problems for decades.
“Everyone keep buying our console even though we keep raising the price. No? Fine, we’ll keep all the games just for our platform, surely that will get you to buy a PS5.”
Once upon a time, video game consoles offered the convenience of plug-and-play gaming, and living room comfort.
Not everyone wanted to build a PC and play with keyboard and mouse, and even still playing those PC games can be a hassle to set up on a TV if you’re common-denominator-levels of tech unsavvy. (Read: not the average Lemmy user)
Valve has brought that forward some with Steam Deck and eventually steam machine but by and large most PC gamers are Windows users.
That said, console platforms have gotten so increasingly hostile towards customers between pricing, licensing, download times and walled-garden tactics that they’ve painted themselves out of an increasing chunk of the games market.
People would rather set up a computer and a controller than buy a console, and it’s the corpo’s own fault.
People generally buy consoles because they are very simple, plug-n-play devices. Historically, they’ve also been able to produce cutting edge graphics for cheaper than a gaming PC, and although that price gap has narrowed over time I do still think it’s true by a bit. (People like to point out that this is not true when taking into account the average price of games on console vs PC, which is completely valid, but I’m talking about the hardware alone here)
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PC players arent starving for games. We’re drowning in them
I mean… For this to actually matter Sony would have to release a decent game for the exclustivity. The last decent one in my eyes was Ragnarok, and I never even finished it.
I have a PS5. It hasen’t been turned on in almost 2 years. I have no reason to. I won’t lose any sleep over this decision.
No problem. Then other companies will get my money (and time). I’m not buying your over priced and proprietary console.
cool, I won’t buy your games then.
I don’t believe them. They just think that lying to the public will sell more PS5s… somehow
Spider-Man 2 is literally the only thing they have that I want to play, and that is not worth getting a console for.
Spider-Man 2 is on PC.
Well I’ll be damned, I thought they only ported the first one.
If you played Spiderman Red (Peter) or Spideman Blue (Miles)
You’ve already played Spiderman 2…
It’s the first time I read these games referred as Red and Blue (like Pokemon editions, lol). Why not just call it Miles Morales, if you have to specify what it is with additional brackets anyway? Is this common way to refer like that?
I guess I was just trying to point out how incredibly similar they were.
And how little Spiderman 2 does to change that.
That’s because Miles Morales isn’t a complete new game, it is basically a DLC released as a separate game. I never played any of these games and this is just what I got when reading about it at launch.
If you ever played a Spiderman game for that matter. I couldn’t finish Spidey Blue. So boring. Cool cinematics tho.
The PS2 one is better anyway imo, and you can just emulate that for free. Speaking as someone who played the Insomniac Spider-Man games first too btw
We don’t want any of that… What do you call it? Money? HAH!
Oh yes they will. You’ve just decided to stop making money on them. Fine by us.
yup. if they can emulate the ps3’s insano-architecture they can sure as fuck figure out whatever comes next. they’re simply guaranteeing a wave of piracy instead of profiting off their already developed IPs.
PC gamers were not making them that much money. They don’t care about us. The sales numbers Sony games on PC were abysmal.
Fine by me. Sony does make good games and I can afford a console, so I won’t mind buying one. Most of this thread is just copium.
Oh well, still not buying a PS.
Their games suck anyways. Patapon was good but that’s about it.
Pure copium
Oh no, all 3 games.
They will come crawling back after the current moron in charge gets fired. Until then, its like 4 games.
Exactly! They’ll cut jobs and trim the fat until they run out of half-assed, short-term methods of increasing quarterly profits year over year. Then they’ll remember PC gamers are almost exclusively adults and some of those adults have deep pockets and no interest in the closed ecosystems that consoles provide.
Just watch.
Lol they will not. The next Xbox is literally going to be a PC with a full Windows OS. Sony is not going to become Xbox and give people no reason to stay in their ecosystem.
They also sold 98 million ps5s. All the delulus in this thread acting like their money matters when it doesn’t. Most of the Sony games sold poorly on steam. PC gamers aren’t worth the effort.
People will 100% buy the ps6. I’m not missing out on more horizon, gow, or tlou. You say it’s 4 games, meanwhile I looked at the top 30 best selling PS5 games and half of them were published by Sony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_games
Hardcore PC players on Reddit/Lemmy just keep proving they’re still detached from normie reality.
I can almost guarantee you that dude has a board or shareholders or whatever, breathing down his neck, and his yearly bonus is depending on the number of units sold. So he will canibalize the whole system with a complete disregard for the long term effects, so long as the magic number goes up in the short term and he can cash in his bonus.
You just described all business in the modern day.
This is exactly the reason the saying “they don’t make them like they used to” is a thing for everything.
Love it or hate it, this is why we don’t want Xbox to fail.
Can they both fail? Consoles kind of suck. Closed platform owned by mega corps. Their main appeals of “easy” and “cheaper” haven’t been true for years.
Microsoft could have done like a … Steam machine for windows like 25 years ago. Optimized windows install on certified hardware, games that also play on desktop windows. They could’ve made steam. Except they couldn’t because they’re a souless corporate husk full of parasitic ghouls.
Fuck em. Fuck them all.
Please help me get a machine that compares to the PS5/XSX in terms of performance and cost. I’m being serious. Every time I look at putting something together it’s gonna be like $1500-$2000.
Total ~ $570 - $665
Plus you don’t have to pay for online and get cheaper (or free 🏴☠️) games.
The up-front cost of a console is probably cheaper, barring putting some labor in and getting lucky on sales. You’re right about that.
A PC has more utility, a larger library, and no subscription fee. That $80/year PsPlus subscription eats into the savings pretty fast. And when your playstation is end-of-life, it’s far less useful than an older PC.
I’m sure some PC-building nerds would be happy to help put together a cost effective machine for you, but sadly I’m not that kind of nerd. I splurged on a pre-built machine when I had a nice job.
What did you buy?
25 years ago, they weren’t going to get any closer than the original Xbox did. PC gaming was extraordinarily different from what we know today, and much as you might not want to hear it, a lot of the reasons it got better were also because of Microsoft. The truth is we can only have something like a Steam Machine today because of incremental improvements that have been done over long periods of time. Valve basically started work on Proton right after the first batch of Steam Machines came out and bombed, and it took until 2022 for their next batch of hardware to materialize that made use of it. Closed platforms can fuck off and die these days, but they solved real problems for decades.
“Everyone keep buying our console even though we keep raising the price. No? Fine, we’ll keep all the games just for our platform, surely that will get you to buy a PS5.”
Let’s raise the price of the console by hundreds of dollars just to sweeten the deal!
Indies and AA games on PC ftw.
How else would they? Honest question: what do any of the video game consoles have to offer except exclusivity?
Once upon a time, video game consoles offered the convenience of plug-and-play gaming, and living room comfort.
Not everyone wanted to build a PC and play with keyboard and mouse, and even still playing those PC games can be a hassle to set up on a TV if you’re common-denominator-levels of tech unsavvy. (Read: not the average Lemmy user)
Valve has brought that forward some with Steam Deck and eventually steam machine but by and large most PC gamers are Windows users.
That said, console platforms have gotten so increasingly hostile towards customers between pricing, licensing, download times and walled-garden tactics that they’ve painted themselves out of an increasing chunk of the games market.
People would rather set up a computer and a controller than buy a console, and it’s the corpo’s own fault.
You guys said the same thing about the switch 2 and it sold extremely well.
The world doesn’t revolve around PC gamers.
Casuals are absolutely not building PCs
People generally buy consoles because they are very simple, plug-n-play devices. Historically, they’ve also been able to produce cutting edge graphics for cheaper than a gaming PC, and although that price gap has narrowed over time I do still think it’s true by a bit. (People like to point out that this is not true when taking into account the average price of games on console vs PC, which is completely valid, but I’m talking about the hardware alone here)