Whether you’re comfortable with these no-name mini PCs is something you’ll have to decide for yourself, but that’s a fully functional PC with 32GB of DDR5, a 1TB SSD, a workable integrated GPU, and a Windows license for $500. You’d spend nearly $500 just to buy the RAM kit and the SSD with today’s component prices; for basic 1080p gaming you could do a lot worse.
TLDR: build a time machine and invest everything you can into Microsoft in 1993. Then, start a first rate dildo mail order service. Call it Dil-post. By the 2000’s you’ll be perfectly positioned to take the place of Amazon, but your sights are higher. You will start sending free DVDs of gorilla bdsm with every dildo order. This takes off and you start your own gorilla DVD vending machine side business. It’ll be called Go-spank. When 2008 crash hits, you are completely isolated in your tower of dildo/gorilla money. Fast forward to 2026, you can now afford 32gb of the DDR you seek. Cha-ching brother, you made it.
I wanted to upgrade to my home lab server’s storage and instead of just buying RAM, I bought a new “server” (used micro PC) and gifted the old one to my father who needed a new machine anyway.
I lucked out deciding to get another 16 gigs of ddr4 ram to make it 32 gigs few years ago. And upgraded my am4 board to the x3d chip. AM4 been the best mobo experience I had because of the continued release of CPU generations for it compared to previous mobos.
Almost the same as me at the start of this year, got a 5900XT and went up to 64GB of RAM for 250-300 quid
Funnily enough I did that because I was telling myself the current crop of GPUs are overpriced so I’ll try and hold on to my 3080 for a couple more years, so upgrading other parts would make sense whilst I waited.
I slept on swapping my 5800X to a 5800X3D, now I’m just kinda stuck until prices come down and I can upgrade to whatever socket AMD is on by that time.
Flipping/selling it will not feed the data centres. Consumer RAM sticks are entirely different than the RAM sticks used in data centres.
In data centres they use ECC memory, which is quite uncommon in consumer computers. The chips on the RAM stick is essentially the same but once the chips are soldered to the memory stick, it’s destiny is locked in.
The price increases are entirely due to lower supply, because the AI data centres are buying up the production capacity for data centre grade RAM directly from the manufacturers, causing them to manufacture way fewer consumer grade RAM sticks.
I knew it was something like this. I kept wondering why would they use consumer sticks for large warehouse size data centres, but assumed that it’s one of those things you expect to be different but is same.
I had 32GB of RAM in my desktop as 4x8GB; one of the sticks failed a couple of years ago, and it was cheaper to replace it with 64GB = 4x16GB than it was to get a replacement 8GB.
That’s convenient for work purposes (in fact, I could actually do with more) but massive pointless overkill for most games. Even games which do “big loads” - Witcher 3, say - aren’t noticeably quicker from RAM cache than they are off of an NVMe drive.
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Interesting… I wonder if they’re reliable.
I should’ve bought that 2TB SSD for Linux drive months ago
My procrastination will haunt me for the next few years 🙃
TLDR: build a time machine and invest everything you can into Microsoft in 1993. Then, start a first rate dildo mail order service. Call it Dil-post. By the 2000’s you’ll be perfectly positioned to take the place of Amazon, but your sights are higher. You will start sending free DVDs of gorilla bdsm with every dildo order. This takes off and you start your own gorilla DVD vending machine side business. It’ll be called Go-spank. When 2008 crash hits, you are completely isolated in your tower of dildo/gorilla money. Fast forward to 2026, you can now afford 32gb of the DDR you seek. Cha-ching brother, you made it.
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This really is crazy. I paid around 110 € for 32 GB DDR5 in late 2023, today the exact same RAM is 550 €.
I ramped up my 2 PCs to 32GB DDR4 on the second hand market, it was so cheap I don’t even remember, 10 or 20€ for 16GB? Two years ago probably.
I paid $65 bucks for 32gb ddr4 3600mhz around 2020. Crazy to see ram prices now.
I wanted to upgrade to my home lab server’s storage and instead of just buying RAM, I bought a new “server” (used micro PC) and gifted the old one to my father who needed a new machine anyway.
I was just planning to buy some bolt cutters and then burgle an Altex.
I lucked the fuck out and got my build done 1 week before this started. Same kit i got for 90 costs 375 now
Paid $1.42/GB for 256GB DDR4 at the beginning of the year. 1 64GB kit of the same spec RAM now costs more than what I paid for all 256GB.
I lucked out deciding to get another 16 gigs of ddr4 ram to make it 32 gigs few years ago. And upgraded my am4 board to the x3d chip. AM4 been the best mobo experience I had because of the continued release of CPU generations for it compared to previous mobos.
Almost the same as me at the start of this year, got a 5900XT and went up to 64GB of RAM for 250-300 quid
Funnily enough I did that because I was telling myself the current crop of GPUs are overpriced so I’ll try and hold on to my 3080 for a couple more years, so upgrading other parts would make sense whilst I waited.
Now it’s all overpriced!
I did the same thing.
With how things are going that 5800X3D, a used high end workstation mainboard and some DDR4 RAM are going to carry me for a very long time.
I’m GPU bottlenecked in 99% of cases anyway.
I slept on swapping my 5800X to a 5800X3D, now I’m just kinda stuck until prices come down and I can upgrade to whatever socket AMD is on by that time.
I was on an Intel 7700k. With Windows 10 coming to an end this year my choices were:
A) switch to gaming on Linux B) build a new pc
Given its age I picked b), getting it in January this year. 9800x3d, 32GB ram. It’s been 11 months and no regrets.
(I could have gone c) and built a new computer AND switched to Linux, but I often play non steam games and didn’t want to deal with WINE myself)
I play ONLY non-Steam since August and had no problems by using Heroic Launcher.
Lutris is wonderful, they have many scripts to assist in game installs, for when you decide you are ready to take the plunge
Do I flip my month old 128gb or simply sit upon my castle?
Look at this king 👑.
I say use that 128 GB. Better than feeding the AI data centre.
Flipping/selling it will not feed the data centres. Consumer RAM sticks are entirely different than the RAM sticks used in data centres.
In data centres they use ECC memory, which is quite uncommon in consumer computers. The chips on the RAM stick is essentially the same but once the chips are soldered to the memory stick, it’s destiny is locked in.
The price increases are entirely due to lower supply, because the AI data centres are buying up the production capacity for data centre grade RAM directly from the manufacturers, causing them to manufacture way fewer consumer grade RAM sticks.
I knew it was something like this. I kept wondering why would they use consumer sticks for large warehouse size data centres, but assumed that it’s one of those things you expect to be different but is same.
But in this case case it was different.
I never returned four 32(16x2) ddr5 kits the last time i built. Am I rich?
Rich, meh. But if you sell em before the bubble bursts, you’ll make some profit at least.
I had 32GB of RAM in my desktop as 4x8GB; one of the sticks failed a couple of years ago, and it was cheaper to replace it with 64GB = 4x16GB than it was to get a replacement 8GB.
That’s convenient for work purposes (in fact, I could actually do with more) but massive pointless overkill for most games. Even games which do “big loads” - Witcher 3, say - aren’t noticeably quicker from RAM cache than they are off of an NVMe drive.
Buy second hand hardware, and put a new SSD in it.
Be quick, before sata ssds are no more.
Or don’t hurry if your machine is still working fine. Panic buying unnecessarily emtpy stocks, which aggravate price hikes.