You do realize indie devs consisting of one or two people are also businesses, right?
seems to me that there’s some sort of critical mass they need to achieve first before the fuckery sets in, small teams aren’t “evil” (yet) simply because they can’t be (yet)
EDIT I mean “evil” as in “we want profit above all else, let’s milk this cow dry until she dies”
I can’t speak for everyone, but the transition from one version to another loses almost as many features as it gains. It is especially crappy about its provided sprites, to the point where we keep losing entire sprite types, many sprite sets are just plain unfinished or untested, and they insisted we move from sprites that people could somewhat take seriously to chibi/moe sprites that nobody on Earth can take seriously for an adventure game.
Another issue is that the series keeps releasing new versions that are incremental improvements at best, and they want us to pay a lot of money for each installment and half-sequel with said very few improvements, and also pay for a lot of content packs. There are things that should have been added 15 years ago and still aren’t here. They can’t even allow us to customize menus, and countless other issues. Honestly the dev team seems like they’re not very good at programming or art in the first place, and they’re just raking in money from incremental improvements over many decades. People try to excuse the engines’ lack of basic features with “but you can program it in Ruby/Javascript yourself!” Which is a really bad thing to rely on for a game-creation engine of this type.
I’m sure other people are annoyed by things I’m not even thinking of right now.
And the latest version is Unity based. Also, I’d say the only thing that prevents Enterbrain to do a similar move, is simply that they don’t even have nearly the same significance & reach as Unity. RPG Maker always was a niche product, even if it a popular one at that. But you don’t really see big commercial game releases that are based on it like you do with Unity.
We’ll have to see how this Unity thing plays out, but if this isn’t going to be the engine’s downfall, then it will become a new norm for others to follow.
No, I don’t, because I remember trying to make attempts at making my own game.
Hence being called RPG Maker.
In 2003 when I was like 17 there wasn’t like a fuckin library of games made in RPG Maker, and if there was, it was only known to the super nerds. Knowing what RPG Maker was in 2003 made you a nerd. If you knew of a library of games for RPG Maker, made you like king of nerds.
I’m envious of your nerdom if you had that access.
Honestly, I don’t even know myself. Was very much drunk when I wrote this last night. I’ll keep it up though for a reminder to not get too drunk and write things like this.
RPG Maker XP is what got me into game development when I was 12, I can’t remember the amount of hours I poured into that program. I will always have a sweet spot for them, but I think the art style of the new versions aren’t as good.
I remember my friend at the time made an entire Pokémon game in it, with like 30 different stat modifiers and evolution and everything.
The whole engine fit on a single 3 1/4 in floppy disk. It wasn’t really a very good engine because I seem to remember you had to have the engine to run the games, you couldn’t just bundle them, but if you did have the engine there were quite a few fun things to do.
Well… #godot engine is free, as in freedom. What happens with #unity could not happen with Godot. You could even contributeurs to make it better. But, it s not the best engine… It s not as convenient, etc. Then you make your choice and can t complain (same as #firefox vs chrome)
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come back in 10 years for the starting comment of your video documenting the long term villain arc of rpgmaker.net
They already do some crappy things. With that said, I still mostly like RPG Maker.
Yeah, they are a company, their goal is profits, they will do crappy things. Go open source if you want to get away from that.
This is not an absolute.
If profits are the goal, then it is.
Yeah, every single person who makes money in the form of a “business” is a crappy person who does crappy things, sure, whatever.
You do realize indie devs consisting of one or two people are also businesses, right?
They will still need to do crappy things to make profits. It’s the nature of the beast.
So what crappy things did Re-Logic do, for example?
seems to me that there’s some sort of critical mass they need to achieve first before the fuckery sets in, small teams aren’t “evil” (yet) simply because they can’t be (yet)
EDIT I mean “evil” as in “we want profit above all else, let’s milk this cow dry until she dies”
Any examples? I’m genuinely curious
I can’t speak for everyone, but the transition from one version to another loses almost as many features as it gains. It is especially crappy about its provided sprites, to the point where we keep losing entire sprite types, many sprite sets are just plain unfinished or untested, and they insisted we move from sprites that people could somewhat take seriously to chibi/moe sprites that nobody on Earth can take seriously for an adventure game.
Another issue is that the series keeps releasing new versions that are incremental improvements at best, and they want us to pay a lot of money for each installment and half-sequel with said very few improvements, and also pay for a lot of content packs. There are things that should have been added 15 years ago and still aren’t here. They can’t even allow us to customize menus, and countless other issues. Honestly the dev team seems like they’re not very good at programming or art in the first place, and they’re just raking in money from incremental improvements over many decades. People try to excuse the engines’ lack of basic features with “but you can program it in Ruby/Javascript yourself!” Which is a really bad thing to rely on for a game-creation engine of this type.
I’m sure other people are annoyed by things I’m not even thinking of right now.
Reading this comment seems like they cater the Japanese market and the rest of the world is an afterthought
I await the video essay. Setting a reminder.
Awkward.
ROFL
Oof. Shots fired. Good. Unity could use a couple more salvos.
its worth noting that this is the twitter account for the RPGMaker forums-- not the official RPGMaker iirc
And the latest version is Unity based. Also, I’d say the only thing that prevents Enterbrain to do a similar move, is simply that they don’t even have nearly the same significance & reach as Unity. RPG Maker always was a niche product, even if it a popular one at that. But you don’t really see big commercial game releases that are based on it like you do with Unity.
We’ll have to see how this Unity thing plays out, but if this isn’t going to be the engine’s downfall, then it will become a new norm for others to follow.
Wasn’t Undertale built in RPG Maker?
No, GameMaker Studio. That engine had it’s own controversy over moving to a subscription model, but nothing as egregious as Unity.
That’s a shame. I remember messing around with GameMaker back in the day. It was a great way for a total beginner to make something playable.
Remember RPG Maker 2003, when you could just open any game made with it in the editor and change shit, give yourself god items etc.? That was dope.
No, I don’t, because I remember trying to make attempts at making my own game.
Hence being called RPG Maker.
In 2003 when I was like 17 there wasn’t like a fuckin library of games made in RPG Maker, and if there was, it was only known to the super nerds. Knowing what RPG Maker was in 2003 made you a nerd. If you knew of a library of games for RPG Maker, made you like king of nerds.
I’m envious of your nerdom if you had that access.
Uh
RPG Maker games were always really easy to pick out because they all used the same assets.
What are you on about
Honestly, I don’t even know myself. Was very much drunk when I wrote this last night. I’ll keep it up though for a reminder to not get too drunk and write things like this.
Lol. I respect that. You keep on keepin’ on.
I appreciate you.
New idea for Lemmy apps: drunk text mode. Between 10pm and 6am you have to answer a skill testing question before submitting.
Why not roll constitution check?
By this logic, I would get to post exactly zero times, ever.
I recommend doing better drugs than one that destroys you.
I recommend getting off your high horse.
Their horse which is high on drugs which doesn’t destroy it’s body
It’s a joke, I don’t really agree with them
Hey bro, not even trying to hate but I think you should get out more
Wow, it’s chilly in this epic shade.
RPG Maker XP is what got me into game development when I was 12, I can’t remember the amount of hours I poured into that program. I will always have a sweet spot for them, but I think the art style of the new versions aren’t as good.
For me it was Daisy’s Garden.
I remember my friend at the time made an entire Pokémon game in it, with like 30 different stat modifiers and evolution and everything.
The whole engine fit on a single 3 1/4 in floppy disk. It wasn’t really a very good engine because I seem to remember you had to have the engine to run the games, you couldn’t just bundle them, but if you did have the engine there were quite a few fun things to do.
Well… #godot engine is free, as in freedom. What happens with #unity could not happen with Godot. You could even contributeurs to make it better. But, it s not the best engine… It s not as convenient, etc. Then you make your choice and can t complain (same as #firefox vs chrome)
While other devs are fighting errors, rpgmaker became the terror.
so rpg stands for random pipebomb gore
Or “Ruthless pipebombings? Great!”