For 10 bucks, it better have a button combination that unlocks Mario Paint 2.
I haven’t seen a damn thing in the marketing that justifies it being anything other than free. If it’s worth 10 bucks, you better show that shit off. The audacity to call it “welcome tour” with a $10 price tag is wild
Makes sense, but if it’s only $10 it should just be free. $10 isn’t worth the bad PR and they should want this tour thing in as many hands as possible.
I think this money grab wouldn’t have gotten as much run in the media if it hadn’t been front and center in the Direct. Feels like a misstep, but then, so does €90 Mario Kart…
You’re thinking iwata, but that was a brief blip on Nintendo history. The OG CEO was a straight up suit. The man had no interest in videogames, only business. Which is why they practically had a monopoly over their hardware in the 80s and 90s.
The OG CEO is from the 1800s so yeah. And yes I’m thinking of Iwata. And look at what was produced during his tenure. That’s the Nintendo everyone is nostalgic about nowadays. 1989 Nintendo was a corporation throwing spaghetti at the wall, 2000’s Nintendo was streamlining the end gamer experience, 2020’s Nintendo is looking for an easy paycheck.
So it’s a $10 tutorial? Don’t care how expansive and cool it is, that’s just fucked. The project scope should’ve been adjusted to make sure it would be free.
Exactly! What sort of logic are they even trying to apply there? Basically saying “We put a lot of time into our tech demo, and it came out better than expected, so we’re going to charge for it!”
That’s just crazy.
The whole principle is that the intro experience is supposed to be free. It exists to get people pumped about the cool new thing they just bought and excited to play with it.
I guess Nintendo decided that - since you already bought the console - they don’t especially care if you are pumped or not. They already got your money.
“Well, you see, if we give away anything for free, it has to be your organs! Our law whor… I mean lawyers cannot afford to be some of the worst people on Earth unless we make things so expensive you have to sell all your organs on the black market!” ~ Them, probably
At least Sony had some justification. A new and expensive cell architecture. It was ground breaking for its time but cost too much.
Nintendo is giving us something the steam deck and other pc handhelds can do, and trying to charge $80 for games that will almost never go on sale. I can buy old steam titles for less than $10, show me an old Nintendo title that can ever sell for that amount. It’s just not a good enough proposition just to have access to a handful of $80 Nintendo titles.
Yeah, I could stomach the price of the console, but no way am I ever going to pay those outrageous prices that never go down for first party games, and without those there’s no point in getting a Switch 2 over a Steam Deck. I’ll have a lot of Nintendo games to catch up on once decent Switch 2 emulators are a thing.
How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?
The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.
On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.
I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.
I jumped ship from Switch to handheld pc. The pc game prices was a big part, especially older games don’t hold value. For example I got Middle Earth shadow of war for like $6. I still sometimes miss my switch but I will definitely wait a while before I decide on a switch 2.
I am genuinely surprised that they’re suggesting physical games that act as keys for digital downloads. What is the point of getting a physical cartridge if you can’t play the whole game offline? I guess they’re just trying to kill physical media, and this is the first step in this direction.
Yeah it’s a hefty price tag but I wanted the extra battery. The Z1 extreme has pretty much the same performance and come with 500gb storage, with a better price tag. You can always upgrade your battery and ssd if you want to later down the line.
I love the device! The fact that I can play pc games in my hand is a huge win for me. I work in front of a pc the whole day. Last thing I want is to sit in front of a pc for gaming. But you must understand it is a pc and not a console. You have more setting and things to tinker with setting to get best performance unlike a console where it is just plug and play.
I never do but I know you can. But once again it is not as easy as casting. You could for example get a dock and have Xbox remotes which could emulate a console feel. My suggestion is to do research before you buy and see if it caters for your needs. Is it a good device? Yes. Is it super user friendly? Depends on the user.
"Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is described as a “virtual exhibition” of the new hardware. Per Nintendo: “through tech demos, minigames and other interactions, players will get to know the new system inside and out in ways they may never have known about otherwise.”
So its basically just something that goes on about how great and wonderful switch is? And they want you to pay for it?
This is so stupid I’m not sure if its even anti consumer anymore but somehow managed to go beyond to new levels of awfulness.
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For 10 bucks, it better have a button combination that unlocks Mario Paint 2.
I haven’t seen a damn thing in the marketing that justifies it being anything other than free. If it’s worth 10 bucks, you better show that shit off. The audacity to call it “welcome tour” with a $10 price tag is wild
I read a preview of it that said it wasn’t worth the money. Nintendo is getting greedy AF.
Nothing says welcome to the new Nintendo console like learning to open that wallet.
It should be free
May I introduce you to their last launch day tech demo… 1-2 Switch?
Yeah. You forgot about $60 launch day tech demo 1-2 Switch, didn’t you?
Okay?
The only reason they sold any was because the console released with like one game, which seems to be the same strategy this time around too.
I remember buying breath of the wild, and sniperclips on day 1.
Exactly, the only real first party game was BOTW (and that also released on the Wii u).
There were some smaller games, like 12 switch/snipperclips/fast rmx, but the switch on release (and most of its life) was struggling for games.
It has a shitload of indie games and on top of that a lot of shovel ware though.
Makes sense, but if it’s only $10 it should just be free. $10 isn’t worth the bad PR and they should want this tour thing in as many hands as possible.
I think this money grab wouldn’t have gotten as much run in the media if it hadn’t been front and center in the Direct. Feels like a misstep, but then, so does €90 Mario Kart…
This is one of the dumber decisions Nintendo has made, and they put out the Wii U.
Nintendo is being exclusively run by suits now. The era of a game company built by gamers is over.
You’re thinking iwata, but that was a brief blip on Nintendo history. The OG CEO was a straight up suit. The man had no interest in videogames, only business. Which is why they practically had a monopoly over their hardware in the 80s and 90s.
The OG CEO is from the 1800s so yeah. And yes I’m thinking of Iwata. And look at what was produced during his tenure. That’s the Nintendo everyone is nostalgic about nowadays. 1989 Nintendo was a corporation throwing spaghetti at the wall, 2000’s Nintendo was streamlining the end gamer experience, 2020’s Nintendo is looking for an easy paycheck.
Nintendo was never ran by gamers.
It wasn’t even a bad system, just marketed terribly.
I would dispute the claim it wasn’t a bad system.
The gamepad as a mandatory component really gimped it hard.
So it’s a $10 tutorial? Don’t care how expansive and cool it is, that’s just fucked. The project scope should’ve been adjusted to make sure it would be free.
Exactly! What sort of logic are they even trying to apply there? Basically saying “We put a lot of time into our tech demo, and it came out better than expected, so we’re going to charge for it!”
That’s just crazy.
The whole principle is that the intro experience is supposed to be free. It exists to get people pumped about the cool new thing they just bought and excited to play with it.
I guess Nintendo decided that - since you already bought the console - they don’t especially care if you are pumped or not. They already got your money.
“Nintendo thinks very little of the intelligence of their customers”
“Well, you see, if we give away anything for free, it has to be your organs! Our law whor… I mean lawyers cannot afford to be some of the worst people on Earth unless we make things so expensive you have to sell all your organs on the black market!” ~ Them, probably
Don’t care. Still no.
Damn, Nintendo is such a crap company… What the heck is wrong with them?
Greed.
They’re Sony ca. 2006, fresh off the success of the PS2.
Or Microsoft ca. 2013, fresh off the success of the Xbox 360.
At least Sony had some justification. A new and expensive cell architecture. It was ground breaking for its time but cost too much.
Nintendo is giving us something the steam deck and other pc handhelds can do, and trying to charge $80 for games that will almost never go on sale. I can buy old steam titles for less than $10, show me an old Nintendo title that can ever sell for that amount. It’s just not a good enough proposition just to have access to a handful of $80 Nintendo titles.
Yeah, I could stomach the price of the console, but no way am I ever going to pay those outrageous prices that never go down for first party games, and without those there’s no point in getting a Switch 2 over a Steam Deck. I’ll have a lot of Nintendo games to catch up on once decent Switch 2 emulators are a thing.
TLDR: They’re greedy Bastards
I feel like they’re trolling us at this point. There’s no way they’re this stupid.
How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?
The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.
On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.
I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.
No, disrespectful business practices don’t make the public stupid
Nintendo can and has pushed the greed too far for even Nintendo fans before. Wii U and 3DS at launch being fairly recent examples.
I jumped ship from Switch to handheld pc. The pc game prices was a big part, especially older games don’t hold value. For example I got Middle Earth shadow of war for like $6. I still sometimes miss my switch but I will definitely wait a while before I decide on a switch 2.
I am genuinely surprised that they’re suggesting physical games that act as keys for digital downloads. What is the point of getting a physical cartridge if you can’t play the whole game offline? I guess they’re just trying to kill physical media, and this is the first step in this direction.
resale
which handheld pc did you get?
Steam deck maybe
I went for the ROG ally x
wow its like $800? would you recommend it?
Yeah it’s a hefty price tag but I wanted the extra battery. The Z1 extreme has pretty much the same performance and come with 500gb storage, with a better price tag. You can always upgrade your battery and ssd if you want to later down the line.
I love the device! The fact that I can play pc games in my hand is a huge win for me. I work in front of a pc the whole day. Last thing I want is to sit in front of a pc for gaming. But you must understand it is a pc and not a console. You have more setting and things to tinker with setting to get best performance unlike a console where it is just plug and play.
thanks, how often do you connect it to a larger screen?
I never do but I know you can. But once again it is not as easy as casting. You could for example get a dock and have Xbox remotes which could emulate a console feel. My suggestion is to do research before you buy and see if it caters for your needs. Is it a good device? Yes. Is it super user friendly? Depends on the user.
"Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is described as a “virtual exhibition” of the new hardware. Per Nintendo: “through tech demos, minigames and other interactions, players will get to know the new system inside and out in ways they may never have known about otherwise.”
So its basically just something that goes on about how great and wonderful switch is? And they want you to pay for it? This is so stupid I’m not sure if its even anti consumer anymore but somehow managed to go beyond to new levels of awfulness.
It’s kind of like the Valve demo that’s free on the Steam Deck to go through all the features on the machine, except not as interesting.