Only time I watch something is to see how to get past a part or get a tricky achievement. I’d be curious if its a generational thing. I started with the Commodore64 and would rather play the games.
Because who can afford a new gaming rig/system AND games to play on it?
I live in a developing country, I’m not either rich or poor and I have a decent gaming rig (i5-10400 and RX 6600)
For PC stuff you just need to know what to get and where would be the best place to get it (aka where is it cheaper) because here in Costa Rica (where I live) people will try to scam you into getting a 6600 XT for like $900 (US dollars, even though our currency is colones)
As for games you can either hop on the ship and sail or wait until the next major Steam sale. For games I’d recommend Steam but I feel MS Store/Xbox PC is fine as well
people will try to scam you into getting a 6600 XT for like $900
Try to search on every website that sells PC. Amazon, eBay, <I don’t know??>, etc… They sell “gaming” PC for like 1000$ with a old CPU (like Intel 7/8000) and a 1660
You don’t have to exclusively play new big-budget games with high spec requirements, an old laptop will play decades of old PC games as well as plenty of newer indies, or you can just go on eBay and buy someone’s last-generation console along with all their controllers and games for the cost of a brand-new game or two!
It’s like people who watches sports but don’t do any.
Edit: Well. after a few minutes of reflection, I wanna contribute with my two cents and say that it’s pretty common to do this kind of thing of watch videos instead of playing games, but it is done under very specific circumstances, like, I am a SFIII 3rd Strike player and I have a job to, so, I can’t be playing all the day. Competitive players need to be being in contact with the game that they wanna master to not get rusty faster, so watch videos is a way of getting that contact, view plays and movements and get that in your head till the moment you got a fightstick in your hands to be able to put in practice all those toughs
I can see where the next revenue stream will be: Publishers want a tithe from Twitch for streams of their products. They’ve been polite up until now because its free marketing, but if even one dataset says there’s money to be made…
Phil Fish was the first and got blown out over it, we should have taken heed.
Even if they tried I don’t think they have the leverage to make that work. What games or publishers are big enough that such a move would go worse for Twitch than it would for them? Most of the time indie games make for better content anyway. Twitch could just ban games that don’t include an unconditional free streaming license in their terms of service and not lose much of any popularity, while the game publishers trying to extort them would absolutely lose popularity.
If you go on twitch now, I’m guessing minecraft, COD, and WOW are all in the top 10, if not top 5, for gaming streams. All owned by Microsoft, among many more
Would it hurt Microsoft game sales? Definitely.
Microsoft has the leverage, and they’ve been fucking around for a while and haven’t found out yet. It would be a stupid thing for them to do, but I wouldn’t put it past them
Twitch is also not doing amazing. Streaming is expensive, and they’re trying hard to get their revenue up…they’re not on solid footing with Amazon right now
I personally mostly watch gaming streams as a background for work, never as focus activity. As a main activity I definitely prefer to play myself rather than watch others playing, with a rare exception when I’m just interested to see a few minutes of gameplay of some new game to see if I’m interested in it.
Sticking on a streamer who you can just listen to chat while they happen to be playing a game is just a newer version of having the TV or radio on in the background while you do other stuff. Sometimes we just want to chill and not have to focus!
Is there maybe a generational gap? I am older and I very, very rarely watch videos. Maybe when I am totally stuck in a game will I watch a walkthrough. But just watching other people play is something my kids and their friends do. I think games just caught up to sports, where most fans spend more time watching than playing as well.
Might be. I’m Gen X and have no interest in watching someone play a game in a video. I do like watching someone play in person, though, so I can understand the appeal.
I’m past 50 and I still watch multiple gaming videos daily. Neebs gaming, ragg tag, zylbrad, etc. Most of the creators I watch are entertaining no matter what they are doing.
I spend more time gaming than watching videos.
As for me, it used to be 50/50 back when I studied. However, ever since I’ve entered the workforce I mostly stopped watching videos.
I need to constantly learn new things, tackle new problems and optimize stuff. I usually go for the highest difficulties too. In theory, my job provides these tasks for me, however, I get a lot of satisfaction from trying and failing things over and over until I’ve figured them out myself. I can’t usually do this professionally, as most problems have already been solved and I’m just learning how others did it. The same as playing with a guide or watching a video on a game. It just doesn’t scratch the itch.
I very much doubt that people are watching games exclusively though. They are probably working, playing a game themselves (I watch while playing Football Manager etc…) or glued to their phone.
My current job situation makes it impossible to work and watch videos at the same time (mostly)…
It’s a way for me to stress down after a hectic day. I don’t really wanna play video games, but for me putting on a video from a creator, who plays video games ~ there is no new knowledge I need to process, there is no “real world” information that I have to adhere to… it just is whatever… and I can turn my mind off, while Pravus talks about something I don’t really care about ~ so yeah
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More people watch <insert any sport here> than they play it.
Very true. I usually binge videos for whatever game I’m currently playing.
I like watching Nilhaus play factory games so I can learn some new ways to better organize my logistics. That’s a big one.
I’ve never played Europa Universalis IV but I love watching videos of it.
Super gross conclusions/recommendations from the marketing firm in the article.
I imagine that if the finding was “gamers spend more time watching friends play”, they’d suggest monetizing the couch cushions.
Only time I watch something is to see how to get past a part or get a tricky achievement. I’d be curious if its a generational thing. I started with the Commodore64 and would rather play the games.
Because who can afford a new gaming rig/system AND games to play on it?
/s?
Steam Deck LCD models are on a significant sale right now. Just sayin’…
Looks like they’re out of stock on the on sale ones to me
i mean my library has a shitload of games to rent. I’ve played a lot of games this year but only bought two.
I live in a developing country, I’m not either rich or poor and I have a decent gaming rig (i5-10400 and RX 6600)
For PC stuff you just need to know what to get and where would be the best place to get it (aka where is it cheaper) because here in Costa Rica (where I live) people will try to scam you into getting a 6600 XT for like $900 (US dollars, even though our currency is colones)
As for games you can either hop on the ship and sail or wait until the next major Steam sale. For games I’d recommend Steam but I feel MS Store/Xbox PC is fine as well
Try to search on every website that sells PC. Amazon, eBay, <I don’t know??>, etc… They sell “gaming” PC for like 1000$ with a old CPU (like Intel 7/8000) and a 1660
Everyone is a scammer nowadays
That reminds me of this. Some local store here tried to sell a 5700G and 3050 PC for 1941 dollars
(For some reasons, Lemmy doesn’t want me to see your comment or mine 🤷♂️)At least those a meh specs, not the best not the worst. ~$2k is a scam but these are better specs than average “gaming” PC found on some websites
You don’t have to exclusively play new big-budget games with high spec requirements, an old laptop will play decades of old PC games as well as plenty of newer indies, or you can just go on eBay and buy someone’s last-generation console along with all their controllers and games for the cost of a brand-new game or two!
Use a Steamdeck or an old system, plenty of great games don’t need a high end cutting edge rig (most don’t really)
You don’t need to play new games to have fun though.
It’s like people who watches sports but don’t do any.
Edit: Well. after a few minutes of reflection, I wanna contribute with my two cents and say that it’s pretty common to do this kind of thing of watch videos instead of playing games, but it is done under very specific circumstances, like, I am a SFIII 3rd Strike player and I have a job to, so, I can’t be playing all the day. Competitive players need to be being in contact with the game that they wanna master to not get rusty faster, so watch videos is a way of getting that contact, view plays and movements and get that in your head till the moment you got a fightstick in your hands to be able to put in practice all those toughs
I can see where the next revenue stream will be: Publishers want a tithe from Twitch for streams of their products. They’ve been polite up until now because its free marketing, but if even one dataset says there’s money to be made…
Phil Fish was the first and got blown out over it, we should have taken heed.
Even if they tried I don’t think they have the leverage to make that work. What games or publishers are big enough that such a move would go worse for Twitch than it would for them? Most of the time indie games make for better content anyway. Twitch could just ban games that don’t include an unconditional free streaming license in their terms of service and not lose much of any popularity, while the game publishers trying to extort them would absolutely lose popularity.
If you go on twitch now, I’m guessing minecraft, COD, and WOW are all in the top 10, if not top 5, for gaming streams. All owned by Microsoft, among many more
Would it hurt Microsoft game sales? Definitely. Microsoft has the leverage, and they’ve been fucking around for a while and haven’t found out yet. It would be a stupid thing for them to do, but I wouldn’t put it past them
Twitch is also not doing amazing. Streaming is expensive, and they’re trying hard to get their revenue up…they’re not on solid footing with Amazon right now
Yeah they run all day while I work. Often while I’m playing too haha.
And then gamers talks like “pro” and bullying others, without being able to finish a tutorial.
I personally mostly watch gaming streams as a background for work, never as focus activity. As a main activity I definitely prefer to play myself rather than watch others playing, with a rare exception when I’m just interested to see a few minutes of gameplay of some new game to see if I’m interested in it.
True for me. Rare are the days whenni have the mental capacity for playing a game after work. Just watching is easier on the brain.
Sticking on a streamer who you can just listen to chat while they happen to be playing a game is just a newer version of having the TV or radio on in the background while you do other stuff. Sometimes we just want to chill and not have to focus!
Clearly, sometimes watching a TV show or a Youtube video is way less demanding than gaming.
I don’t know if it’s good or bad, but it’s my reality.
I also know that I really love immersing myself into story driven games, so playing a few minutes before cooking the meal isn’t an option.
Is there maybe a generational gap? I am older and I very, very rarely watch videos. Maybe when I am totally stuck in a game will I watch a walkthrough. But just watching other people play is something my kids and their friends do. I think games just caught up to sports, where most fans spend more time watching than playing as well.
Might be. I’m Gen X and have no interest in watching someone play a game in a video. I do like watching someone play in person, though, so I can understand the appeal.
I’m past 50 and I still watch multiple gaming videos daily. Neebs gaming, ragg tag, zylbrad, etc. Most of the creators I watch are entertaining no matter what they are doing. I spend more time gaming than watching videos.
You’re certainly not alone! (I’m older too)
So, it’s just like traditional sports now
As for me, it used to be 50/50 back when I studied. However, ever since I’ve entered the workforce I mostly stopped watching videos.
I need to constantly learn new things, tackle new problems and optimize stuff. I usually go for the highest difficulties too. In theory, my job provides these tasks for me, however, I get a lot of satisfaction from trying and failing things over and over until I’ve figured them out myself. I can’t usually do this professionally, as most problems have already been solved and I’m just learning how others did it. The same as playing with a guide or watching a video on a game. It just doesn’t scratch the itch.
I very much doubt that people are watching games exclusively though. They are probably working, playing a game themselves (I watch while playing Football Manager etc…) or glued to their phone.
I am.
My current job situation makes it impossible to work and watch videos at the same time (mostly)…
It’s a way for me to stress down after a hectic day. I don’t really wanna play video games, but for me putting on a video from a creator, who plays video games ~ there is no new knowledge I need to process, there is no “real world” information that I have to adhere to… it just is whatever… and I can turn my mind off, while Pravus talks about something I don’t really care about ~ so yeah