It’s actually available for individuals now, the first time Microsoft has done this. Though it isn’t clear if Home versions most individuals would have is included, or if it’s for the Pro version only.
Then they’ll just stop updating until they can afford a new computer. People who can’t afford a computer that can run Windows 11 certainly aren’t paying for security updates. So the guy I replied to is right.
I mean, this is nothing new.
People pirate extended support all the time, just look at LTSB/LTSC.
If ya dig enough you can probably find people Frankensteining patches from POSReady just so they can keep running Win7 lol
So if you still want to use Windows 10 after October 2025. You need to pay them $30 to do it. Okay, just update to 11 or use Linux. Where’s the problem?
It’s actually incredible how good Linux is, and it’s entirely free. No ads, no bullshit, just a rock solid OS. It’s staggering how small a proportion of people use it.
Isn’t that just the standard MS has had for extended security updates for long? Basically just “fuck you if you don’t want to upgrade your old ass system we’re gonna charge for maintaining that shit”
I mean I get it, though understand why people don’t want to hop to win11 but get on Linux then bitch
As Steve Ballmer said… Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux …
On a slightly more serious note though: switch to Linux, jd if you still need windows for something, run it in a VM under Linux. Just don’t pay for the license because fuck Microsoft
“We let known security holes in our products, causing even the US government to be hacked, because revealing tha they existed in the first place would cost customers and hurt our bottom and only line: money. But don’t worry! Our CEO just promised we will never do it again, pretty smile”.
Just what you need to know to use it. Every OS is different. How to install it, install programs, troubleshoot problems, shortcuts and things to mske life easier.
Microsoft needs to sell its software (including OS) and they’ve always done so through manufacturers.
The average user, in their mind, doesn’t care about/want/have a choice for Windows, they just went to a shop to buy a computer, Windows was just on it. So for Microsoft, a public company who’s graphs need to keep going up forever, “increasing revenue from Windows” equates to “making people buy more computers” - this, in my opinion, is why they went down the TPM route (which consumers didn’t care about), and now, the “Copilot compatible” PC (whixh users don’t care about) routes. For the shareholders, you need a new computer, not an update to your existing one.
So this is where it gets interesting - a catch 22 for Microsoft - the average user doesn’t want a new computer (the internet works fine right), but Microsoft need their graphs to go up and they don’t want to work for free… BUT they can’t afford to have “Windows” become synonymous with “viruses” again (they bothered to make Windows defender for free for this reason), so if people don’t pay up, there could be millions of virus ridden computers and everyone will look for a new laptop “but not windows again” because of the viruses…
Mac instead? Maybe, but most laptops are sold for €300, not €1000+…
Current known, “safe consumer choice” brands (OEMs) and big box retailers are and will continue to be influenced/controlled/blackmailed by Microsoft’s license pricing and legal teams to maintain the status quo on the shelves and we’ll see what plays out.
This subscription talk then is big news, not just because of the controversy surround subscriptions generally, but because this could change the shape of supply and demand in the PC market significantly.
As always there won’t be one answer for everyone, but these are some ways it could play out.
Microsoft forgets the idea
Microsoft offers a free version supported by ads
Consumers pay up, even if it takes a generation
Consumers move to Apple
Major PC manufacturers and retailers spite Microsoft terms, and offer alternative OS’s
Smaller/new PC manufacturers rise, and offer alternative OS’s
Every year is the year of the linux desktop. Sure it has just as many problems as the others but it gets better every year and I certainly never felt the same about windows. Mac I don’t have that reverse winding in my head that makes people find the apple UI’s intuitive.
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This is just the beginning of a yearly subscription for Windows OS. Just wait.
Normies will pay. They aint got nothing to hide and they are not poor!
Quit being poor, mate
This isnt available to individuals anyhow, only to schools and businesses.
It’s actually available for individuals now, the first time Microsoft has done this. Though it isn’t clear if Home versions most individuals would have is included, or if it’s for the Pro version only.
Oh interesting! I was reading something recently that said MS had clarified that it was for businesses only, but that must have been an old article.
This makes me want to downgrade to 10 and just pay for the subscription
Normies won’t pay for this wtf are you smoking? They’re just gonna let their computer not be up to date and not care.
Maybe you are right… This aint netlfix
They’ll just let Windows update their system to 11
Unless their machine doesn’t meet the hardware requirements.
Then they’ll just stop updating until they can afford a new computer. People who can’t afford a computer that can run Windows 11 certainly aren’t paying for security updates. So the guy I replied to is right.
This is just the beginning of a thread of ragebait and misinformation. Windows has been doing this for yearrssssssss. Stop sensationalizing old news.
By offering extended support? Same as they’ve done since at least windows 95?
Windows bad, remember?
Oh right. Uh, Bill Gates personally gave me AIDS.
Bill Gates gave me the 5G covid vaccine microchip.
Edit: /s
🤬
Why will they do that? That will kill Windows.
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So… Torrenting security patches will be a thing? That would be a bizarre usage of torrents I have to say
I mean, this is nothing new.
People pirate extended support all the time, just look at LTSB/LTSC.
If ya dig enough you can probably find people Frankensteining patches from POSReady just so they can keep running Win7 lol
So if you still want to use Windows 10 after October 2025. You need to pay them $30 to do it. Okay, just update to 11 or use Linux. Where’s the problem?
A lot of not-that-old computers don’t meet the system requirements for Windows 11.
And by “not-that-old” I mean serves the limited purpose it was built for 8 years ago and is still working perfectly fine.
Hardware is lasting longer, users are less demanding.
Nah, I would rather use free Linux.
It’s actually incredible how good Linux is, and it’s entirely free. No ads, no bullshit, just a rock solid OS. It’s staggering how small a proportion of people use it.
It’s amazing how much better an operating system can be when it’s built by the community.
Arch BTW?
Hannah Montana Linux btw?
For one year.
They’re not eligible to continue to get security updates after that (even though they’ll still be doing them because businesses will).
OK Looks like my little MS Surface is going to be running Linux.
It is stupid easy to get Linux to run a surface
I’m running Win 10 Ameliorated on mine. Manual driver installs were the only big hiccup. Works well otherwise, but it’s not my daily driver.
I can’t really use Linux since my work is deeply embedded in Microsoft everything; I need OneDrive to work dependably.
Yeah. They have always done extended support like this.
Yeah I’m already switching to Linux next year, I don’t need rage bait in my life.
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Isn’t that just the standard MS has had for extended security updates for long? Basically just “fuck you if you don’t want to upgrade your old ass system we’re gonna charge for maintaining that shit”
I mean I get it, though understand why people don’t want to hop to win11 but get on Linux then bitch
Time to pirate my Windows updates
You already paid for your OS? Too bad you’re gonna pay again.
As Steve Ballmer said… Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux …
On a slightly more serious note though: switch to Linux, jd if you still need windows for something, run it in a VM under Linux. Just don’t pay for the license because fuck Microsoft
This is great. Can’t wait to help everyone learn linux!
What do you actually learn about Linux? How do those two differ?
Just what you need to know to use it. Every OS is different. How to install it, install programs, troubleshoot problems, shortcuts and things to mske life easier.
Microsoft needs to sell its software (including OS) and they’ve always done so through manufacturers.
The average user, in their mind, doesn’t care about/want/have a choice for Windows, they just went to a shop to buy a computer, Windows was just on it. So for Microsoft, a public company who’s graphs need to keep going up forever, “increasing revenue from Windows” equates to “making people buy more computers” - this, in my opinion, is why they went down the TPM route (which consumers didn’t care about), and now, the “Copilot compatible” PC (whixh users don’t care about) routes. For the shareholders, you need a new computer, not an update to your existing one.
So this is where it gets interesting - a catch 22 for Microsoft - the average user doesn’t want a new computer (the internet works fine right), but Microsoft need their graphs to go up and they don’t want to work for free… BUT they can’t afford to have “Windows” become synonymous with “viruses” again (they bothered to make Windows defender for free for this reason), so if people don’t pay up, there could be millions of virus ridden computers and everyone will look for a new laptop “but not windows again” because of the viruses…
Mac instead? Maybe, but most laptops are sold for €300, not €1000+…
Current known, “safe consumer choice” brands (OEMs) and big box retailers are and will continue to be influenced/controlled/blackmailed by Microsoft’s license pricing and legal teams to maintain the status quo on the shelves and we’ll see what plays out.
This subscription talk then is big news, not just because of the controversy surround subscriptions generally, but because this could change the shape of supply and demand in the PC market significantly.
As always there won’t be one answer for everyone, but these are some ways it could play out.
Will people pay up? Will Chromebooks take over?
Or…
(Removes sunglasses)
…will 2025 be the year of the Linux desktop?
Every year is the year of the linux desktop. Sure it has just as many problems as the others but it gets better every year and I certainly never felt the same about windows. Mac I don’t have that reverse winding in my head that makes people find the apple UI’s intuitive.