Zuckerberg got lucky once, used the talents of others to capitalize on that luck. If he was smart, he would have quickly retired and set about enjoying his wealth but instead he’s wasted small fortunes running Facebook. Got high on his own supply when really he was never especially talented at anything.
I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.
I bought a Quest 3s about a year ago and am an old school, single-player gamer. Meta sure tried hard to get me to socialize and meet “friends” while VR’ing but I was never interested. Also, because of the whole surveillance layer built into new tech I worry about my interior spatial domicile information being exposed. Not that there is a big secret in a house floor plan but I just don’t like people sneakily looking at my shit.
Well they gave it their best shot. It was literally impossible for them to have produced a more compelling product. That would have required skill and talent
Thank goodness there was nothing more useful we could have done as a society with all of the tens of billions of dollars that was spent on this project, or it would have been an incredible waste!
Actually one of them was supernatural. And that is a massive community there is some massive blowback going with regards to that. My significant other being one of those people so I’ve heard a lot about it over the last 24 hours seeing all the posts seen post from all the coaches that were involved that have gotten laid off and just one of the communities on Facebook is somewhere in the neighborhood of 170,000 people.
I’m actually kinda angry. There was a lot of money being thrown at this metaverse thing, and I wanted to milk that sweet Facebook money for as long as I can building products nobody use. Now I’ll never get that chance.
Companies like meta and Amazon can’t be trusted with gaming, it’s just a silly side project to them. If I was working at a studio acquired by either I would be shit scared for the studios longevity.
Oh look, that completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea, that people still felt the need to argue with me about so many years ago despite it being obviously doomed for failure.
I’ve always appreciated that they stole the name from Snow Crash. Like Zuck completely unironically named his company after a technological dystopian hellscape infected with a virus that destroys people’s brains. Honestly, I don’t think there’s a better name for Facebook.
I mean, Neal Stephenson coined the term “metaverse” to reference a virtual world not limited to gaming but to all kinds of business and commerce and social interactions.
Zuck’s concept for the metaverse was basically the same thing. I’d be surprised if the connection wasn’t intentional.
completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea
Nah, it could have worked if Meta started by
sell the hardware to businesses and schools at a loss, with a requirement users be able to take the sets home.
Publish standards to allow all apps to have multiplayer and compatible full body avatars, same control scheme, movement, etc.
buying up VRChat and any other apps with a large user base, refactoring them for compatibility.
Develop and release free multiuser apps, from virtual office/meetings to virtual movies to home decor.
Somehow FB didn’t even try to exploit the same effects that forced everyone into Apple, MS, and FB.
To be clear, its for the best, the end result of FB giving out millions of headsets at a loss would have been making even more money selling much more precise user data, and virtual nikes and shit.
The real selling point would be that everyone else is using it and you need to use it to interact with them, same with FB. How many people are still forced to maintain a FB account to talk to their boomer relatives?
ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn’t because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.
Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.
Some of those projects haven’t just been successful they’re so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.
How have they affected government policy, beyond Roblox probably causing some laws being passed about exploitation and protection of minors?
You have a point, I think the big thing FB failed to capitalize on is that someone who wants to use ChatVR or Roblox has to go into chatVR or roblox. FB had an opportunity to build an entire ecosystem they control, and they failed to get anyone inside of it.
I genuinely have no idea how they managed to spend that much money and not get a single decent app. Horizons literally looked like a tech demo someone slapped together for a gamejam or something.
But also 100% predictable. Sad, but not unexpected.
For reference, I could absolutely take a job in the next couple weeks with a $50k signing bonus where I get to shoot people in the face with impunity, but I also know that the Nuremberg Trials were a thing. Also, I’m not a horrible human.
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Zuckerberg got lucky once, used the talents of others to capitalize on that luck. If he was smart, he would have quickly retired and set about enjoying his wealth but instead he’s wasted small fortunes running Facebook. Got high on his own supply when really he was never especially talented at anything.
I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.
I bought a Quest 3s about a year ago and am an old school, single-player gamer. Meta sure tried hard to get me to socialize and meet “friends” while VR’ing but I was never interested. Also, because of the whole surveillance layer built into new tech I worry about my interior spatial domicile information being exposed. Not that there is a big secret in a house floor plan but I just don’t like people sneakily looking at my shit.
Well they gave it their best shot. It was literally impossible for them to have produced a more compelling product. That would have required skill and talent
Thank goodness there was nothing more useful we could have done as a society with all of the tens of billions of dollars that was spent on this project, or it would have been an incredible waste!
To what are they gonna rename the company now?
AI
SLOP
Meta is now SLOP:
I’m Mark Zuckerfuck and I suck.
I was thinking of spelling out the acronym but hilariously, Pedo (defense, support, porn, or something) was 1000% what I was going to use for P!
Hey Suckerberg, how’s “the future of the Internet” working out for ya?
All 5 users will be angry
Actually one of them was supernatural. And that is a massive community there is some massive blowback going with regards to that. My significant other being one of those people so I’ve heard a lot about it over the last 24 hours seeing all the posts seen post from all the coaches that were involved that have gotten laid off and just one of the communities on Facebook is somewhere in the neighborhood of 170,000 people.
Were the paranormal community affected too?
Yeah but on the plus side, Zuckerberg will have less underage girls to groom
Um. Not really sure what that has to do with this. But yes?
I’m actually kinda angry. There was a lot of money being thrown at this metaverse thing, and I wanted to milk that sweet Facebook money for as long as I can building products nobody use. Now I’ll never get that chance.
I mean there’s always be vrchat, Which is basically what meta was trained to do but actually works.
Companies like meta and Amazon can’t be trusted with gaming, it’s just a silly side project to them. If I was working at a studio acquired by either I would be shit scared for the studios longevity.
I remember when Amazon went all-in on gaming. Everyone was skeptical, and they partnered up with so many Asian companies.
Then they pulled out. Then they pulled back in. And now they’re kinda in a weird place.
What did they make?
Microsoft too.
They flip flop over if gaming is important to them all the time.
Yeah time to start saving as much as you can if they buy you, if you weren’t already doing so.
Then you’ll at least have something for when the inevitable comes.
Who cares about billions of dollars wasted on the last profitless scheme when there is a whole new profitless scheme to dumb money into? Line goes up!
I want cloud gamified LLM GenAI NFT Cryptocurrency Neural network IoT Web3 Metaverse!
Even better they should sell the oculus tech to someone else who might give a damn.
Oh look, that completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea, that people still felt the need to argue with me about so many years ago despite it being obviously doomed for failure.
Can Facebook unsteal the name now?
I’ve always appreciated that they stole the name from Snow Crash. Like Zuck completely unironically named his company after a technological dystopian hellscape infected with a virus that destroys people’s brains. Honestly, I don’t think there’s a better name for Facebook.
Did he say he named it for that? Bc I can totally believe he has no idea what Snow Crash is.
I mean, Neal Stephenson coined the term “metaverse” to reference a virtual world not limited to gaming but to all kinds of business and commerce and social interactions.
Zuck’s concept for the metaverse was basically the same thing. I’d be surprised if the connection wasn’t intentional.
Nah, it could have worked if Meta started by
sell the hardware to businesses and schools at a loss, with a requirement users be able to take the sets home.
Publish standards to allow all apps to have multiplayer and compatible full body avatars, same control scheme, movement, etc.
buying up VRChat and any other apps with a large user base, refactoring them for compatibility.
Develop and release free multiuser apps, from virtual office/meetings to virtual movies to home decor.
Somehow FB didn’t even try to exploit the same effects that forced everyone into Apple, MS, and FB.
To be clear, its for the best, the end result of FB giving out millions of headsets at a loss would have been making even more money selling much more precise user data, and virtual nikes and shit.
No. The entire concept is just dumb. Adding less efficient means of doing things isn’t a selling point.
The real selling point would be that everyone else is using it and you need to use it to interact with them, same with FB. How many people are still forced to maintain a FB account to talk to their boomer relatives?
Clearly the idea isn’t done because there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.
What do you mean?
ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn’t because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.
Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.
Some of those projects haven’t just been successful they’re so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.
How have they affected government policy, beyond Roblox probably causing some laws being passed about exploitation and protection of minors?
You have a point, I think the big thing FB failed to capitalize on is that someone who wants to use ChatVR or Roblox has to go into chatVR or roblox. FB had an opportunity to build an entire ecosystem they control, and they failed to get anyone inside of it.
I genuinely have no idea how they managed to spend that much money and not get a single decent app. Horizons literally looked like a tech demo someone slapped together for a gamejam or something.
Wait, hold up, are you telling me that you knew no one would want to wear a headset to join a 90’s style AOL chat room?
~40000 people playing VRChat right now FYI.
Because it has legs
So, they were still throwing tons of resources into this years after it flopped?
“Flop”, to me, implies some sort of jump. “Metaverse” just kinda rolled off the edge of a cliff immediately, like a dog shitting on a frozen hill.
Nothing of value was lost
Fuck off, sincerely. It’s hard enough out there for game devs as it is without heartless idiots online celebrating the demise of their studios.
Also, obviously, fuck Meta for closing them.
My man what are you on they sold out to Meta, they 100% knew what they were getting into, and have been well compensated for it.
My brother in arms, my heart goes to you. I know it sucks.
Never fall in love with your work, ever. Metaverse and VR has always been a neat niche piece of tech.
As a dev, make the thing for that money, and always be ready to jump ship.
The metaverse was always going to be a flop.
I get why devs jumped in, for that sweet Facebook cash injection.
But, gotta be realists here. It was always going to fail, and it was easy free money until that point.
Always. Buying hardware from Facebook just feels gross to a lot of people, even those that dont even really care about privacy.
It’s not like Meta just shut down some random game studios. They chose to get into bed with Meta. This was the most predictable outcome.
I’ll celebrate every aspect of the scam that is Metaverse and the oculus rift dying off.
Like any other studio bought by a big corporation this is the inevitable outcome and I wish the best for the employees that had no say in the matter.
they took the meta out of Meta 🤣
That’s probably a lot of lost jobs.
But also 100% predictable. Sad, but not unexpected.
For reference, I could absolutely take a job in the next couple weeks with a $50k signing bonus where I get to shoot people in the face with impunity, but I also know that the Nuremberg Trials were a thing. Also, I’m not a horrible human.
I expect that everyone there has seen this coming for ages now.