It’s really annoying to accidentally hit a key, then feel like I have to send a full message. Why is this the ‘standard’ among chat programs now, without even the option to turn it off?
Why is everyone here gaslighting OP as if this isn’t a valid privacy concern? It’s completely valid. Other messaging services allow you to disable typing indicators and message receipts. Even Google messages offers this. So yea, I’m with OP on this one.
It’s weird that Lemmy is super concerned with privacy yet shits on people for stuff like this. Good jobs guys. Really making Lemmy shine here.
Agree, but let’s not dilute the meaning of “gaslighting”. That word has a VERY specific definition and it had been getting used in inappropriate contexts so much that that very specific and necessary definition is being lost. It refers to a specific abusive behavior pattern which needs a good and concrete word to communicate it. My teen stepdaughter had it in her head that us educating her on the world was “gaslighting”, which is dangerous because she had the “gaslighting bad” reaction to things that were not gaslighting, and it is not limited to her. There is a concerted effort on the part of some political groups to break and weaponize the definitions of things like gaslighting and manipulation, we need to work to make sure it is not successful.
While I agree with you that it should be an option to turn it off, who is telling you that you need to send a full message if someone sees you were typing?
We’re the ones making the rules for this world full of technologies and we create the social rules for them daily with our own actions. Fuck that expectation, I’m sure other people can surmise what happened even if they noticed you were typing for just a second, they’re working with the same limited software.
Lol. The amount of times I’m actually typing something and then think “nahhhhh, not worth it” and delete the whole thing anyway I think my friends are all used to this 😅
I think the “typing” status is debounced to a few seconds only. You won’t appear to be typing if you stop actually typing. At least that’s how most messengers work that I use.
Unless they were looking, they wont have seen it. And as far as I know, just the cursor being active sends the “typing” indicator in some apps. When I see it for just a second I just assume someone hovered over the chatbox for a bit.
No-one thinks it’s weird for it to pop up for a second and then go away. Or for it to appear for a good while and still not get you a message. Sometimes I’ll write a first draft of a response right away, then leave it there for hours while I think about it some more, before finalizing it.
It would be smart if chat apps implemented a minimum, where “typing” won’t apper until you’re three words into writing a response or something.
That way it wont go off over nothing. It’s still useful, it lets you/them know whether you’re getting/giving an immediate response, so you/they know whether the conversion is continuing right away, or later.
A technique I used to use for when I used פיסכורפ was to use a text editor to type out my message, then copy&paste.
Now I just use slidcord at my convenience, and will use a scraper&archiver soon™ to export stuff in communities I want to maliciously extrapolate. 🖕 Network Effected folks. Aint scanlating on JASRAC friendly snitches.
It’s kind of impressive that you managed to squeeze in so many links to references but without including any that actually back up the accusation you’re making.
No, I mean the completely unfounded claim that discord’s typing indicators are somehow a tool for analysing users’ writing styles and selling that on to data brokers.
It’s so bizarrely specific that it comes across as an unhinged conspiracy theory, especially when it’s delivered as part of a link salad.
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Why is everyone here gaslighting OP as if this isn’t a valid privacy concern? It’s completely valid. Other messaging services allow you to disable typing indicators and message receipts. Even Google messages offers this. So yea, I’m with OP on this one.
It’s weird that Lemmy is super concerned with privacy yet shits on people for stuff like this. Good jobs guys. Really making Lemmy shine here.
Agree, but let’s not dilute the meaning of “gaslighting”. That word has a VERY specific definition and it had been getting used in inappropriate contexts so much that that very specific and necessary definition is being lost. It refers to a specific abusive behavior pattern which needs a good and concrete word to communicate it. My teen stepdaughter had it in her head that us educating her on the world was “gaslighting”, which is dangerous because she had the “gaslighting bad” reaction to things that were not gaslighting, and it is not limited to her. There is a concerted effort on the part of some political groups to break and weaponize the definitions of things like gaslighting and manipulation, we need to work to make sure it is not successful.
While I agree with you that it should be an option to turn it off, who is telling you that you need to send a full message if someone sees you were typing?
We’re the ones making the rules for this world full of technologies and we create the social rules for them daily with our own actions. Fuck that expectation, I’m sure other people can surmise what happened even if they noticed you were typing for just a second, they’re working with the same limited software.
Lol. The amount of times I’m actually typing something and then think “nahhhhh, not worth it” and delete the whole thing anyway I think my friends are all used to this 😅
I accidentally hit characters and assume they all see me ‘typing’ for the next 12 hours until I notice.
I think the “typing” status is debounced to a few seconds only. You won’t appear to be typing if you stop actually typing. At least that’s how most messengers work that I use.
Vencord has a plugun for this. It’s a third party discord app.
Unless they were looking, they wont have seen it. And as far as I know, just the cursor being active sends the “typing” indicator in some apps. When I see it for just a second I just assume someone hovered over the chatbox for a bit.
No-one thinks it’s weird for it to pop up for a second and then go away. Or for it to appear for a good while and still not get you a message. Sometimes I’ll write a first draft of a response right away, then leave it there for hours while I think about it some more, before finalizing it.
It would be smart if chat apps implemented a minimum, where “typing” won’t apper until you’re three words into writing a response or something.
That way it wont go off over nothing. It’s still useful, it lets you/them know whether you’re getting/giving an immediate response, so you/they know whether the conversion is continuing right away, or later.
Have you considered that you don’t have to send a full message when you mistype?
People know that happens
Why are you not fighting for this?
Hey, just be happy you’re not in ICQ.
It heralds from Jabber, for when you wanted to indicate to peers that you are responding in chat about something. However it is Machiavellian social engineering (2×🔗) meant to decipher your stylometry, which data analyst brokers (2×🔗) corporations like pisscorp and valve enjoy to exploit.
A technique I used to use for when I used פיסכורפ was to use a text editor to type out my message, then copy&paste. Now I just use slidcord at my convenience, and will use a scraper&archiver soon™ to export stuff in communities I want to maliciously extrapolate. 🖕 Network Effected folks. Aint scanlating on JASRAC friendly snitches.
It’s kind of impressive that you managed to squeeze in so many links to references but without including any that actually back up the accusation you’re making.
For Valve, or Pisscorp? Unless you mean Leviathan Scans.
No, I mean the completely unfounded claim that discord’s typing indicators are somehow a tool for analysing users’ writing styles and selling that on to data brokers.
It’s so bizarrely specific that it comes across as an unhinged conspiracy theory, especially when it’s delivered as part of a link salad.
Ah, you don’t read the Terms of Service.