A developer of Oblivion remake Skyblivion, which rebuilds Bethesda’s beloved Elder Scrolls 4 using the Skyrim engine, says they have experienced death threats.
We live in times where folks are more worried into bashing randoms rather than improving/enjoying things for no reason other than attention/self-validation – those are probably “internet tough guys” acting like such.
It means this person is trying to grind their 'keyboard warrior" skill, which to my mind is a waste of spec points but maybe they’re running some gimmick build.
I’d be curious to know what the death threats entail. Like, of you don’t finish this free mod soon your going to be killed?
How does that even make sense?
Although I suppose the sort of person who would send a death threat over the internet is not going to be known for thier intelligence.
I’m over here with my skooma pipe going, “chill, I’m still waiting on Morroblivion and Morrowskyrim”. I don’t think modders have ever managed to finish one of these kinds of projects.
If you are on the Internet you will receive death threats. Why are we treating it like news? I don’t make anything, rarely comment and get told to kill myself about once a month.
It’s messed up, but I hate reading articles of people clutching their pearls over chat from any multiplayer game.
Either create consequences or accept that it’s a part of the Internet.
I seem to interact with the internet more frequently than you and I have literally never been told to kill myself online. And that even might be about to change, but I’m not particularly sensitive to it. Still an absolutely braindead and shitty thing to do
You make it sound normal, which it is not. There is one thing shouting in a game that they will kill you in the game. It’s something totally different when they are sending death threats.
This is not “part of the internet” this is people being insane. The people behind this could face jail time.
Death threats are normal on the Internet. People’s lives are constantly threatened on the Internet.
It’s not acceptable. It should be stopped, but currently there is no real enforcement, and no way to stop them. Acting shocked isn’t going to stop them.
If anyone is wondering why…yeah there’s no reason. It’s just sad losers trolling them and hacking their Discord for no reason other than (probably) the lulz.
There are as many unbearable man-children as there are socially underdeveloped teens on the internet. As sad as that is, even if we banned teenagers from the internet it wouldn’t improve anonymous spaces all that much.
It’s incredibly common for game developers. Change a variable from a 5 to a 4 and you get death threats. Change it back to 5 ane you get more death threats.
The reality is that a lot of gamers simply aren’t very good people (and now they often have the far-right cheering them on).
I loved working in the industry but the constant tantrums and entitlement made it easy to leave.
Remember that it’s most likely just edgy kids, the internet becomes a lot more bearable when you just assume all the dumbos are little kids trying to act cool.
It sounds like the story of the AetherSX2 emulator, that happened earlier this year: the main developer got burnt out by all the harassment and threats from toxic individuals and abandoned the project out of frustration.
The internet can be really hard for sensible people, I hope wherever Tahlreth is right now is feeling better.
I don’t entirely hope he’s feeling better cause he definetly lived for the drams, and hyped it up however he could. He also shit talked a lot of other open source devs, especially of emulators
I know people can be absurdly toxic in general, but does it seem like games are an unusually concentrated place for that? If that is the case, why is that?
This is the correct answer, in my opinion. Keyboard warriors usually dry up real quick in the face of physical, meat-space confrontation. Same reason behind road rage, really. I’m only brave while I can hide behind a perceived barrier.
Yeah I really don’t understand this why specifically the gaming communities seem to suffer from this problem more than others.
Perhaps it’s not reported on as much in other hobby circles, or it’s a confirmation bias on my part.
Regardless, it’s really disappointing that these communities have this ‘there I go death-threating again’ stigma growing against them. Absolutely disgusting.
Maybe it’s just me then. I know it happens elsewhere, but it just seems to happen more often in games. I feel like I’m reading stories all the time about developers getting threatened, but I feel like it’s much more rare to see for instance stories about filmmakers or authors being threatened.
Naw OP is right. Music fans, tv show fans, etc all have these weird subgroups that take everything way too seriously and go after people or make threats etc etc. I think it’s more whenever you hyper concentrate people, boil them down like this, that this stuff happens.
If I had to guess, it’s because gamers are often more tech-oriented, likely younger and impulsive, video games are more and more popular every year, and also based on your presence here, I’d say you’re more likely to be aware of game-related news in general?
If knitting were more popular, had a greater online presence, and you actively followed knitting communities online, I’d imagine you would probably feel like knitting culture is such a toxic cesspit as well.
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STOP! YOUVE VIOLATED THE LAW! Pay the court a fine or SERVE YOUR SENTENCE. All your stolen goods are now FORFEIT!
How great would a C&D letter from Bethesda written like that be?
I would expect and accept nothing less.
Just like Microsoft’s legal letters should have a picture of Clippy and text saying “Hey! It looks like you’re being sued…”
I want a BSOD in there somewhere…
P.S. Why is there no GPT4 plugin for Clippy yet?!?!?!
I have no idea how to do anything with this, but like this?
Oh no. 😬 The End is nigh. Behold the Pale Rider. 😱💀
oh thank god
Man, this is disappointing. This is a game. We are to be having fun together as a community. What’s happened to this world?
We live in times where folks are more worried into bashing randoms rather than improving/enjoying things for no reason other than attention/self-validation – those are probably “internet tough guys” acting like such.
Was there a return address available for any retaliatory death threats? Because IWKAMF.
Wtf does IWKAMF mean?
It means this person is trying to grind their 'keyboard warrior" skill, which to my mind is a waste of spec points but maybe they’re running some gimmick build.
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I wanna kill a mother fucker?
gamers™
More like Internet™. At this point receiving death threats is just a sign that you’re popular enough to be noticed by toxic people.
I’ve gotten death threats and I’m a complete nobody.
I think it’s easier to write about the games people don’t have get death threats nowadays. This is so sad
Just guessing, but either:
I Would Kill A Mother Fucker, or
I Wipe Koala Asshole Against Face
I’d be curious to know what the death threats entail. Like, of you don’t finish this free mod soon your going to be killed? How does that even make sense?
Although I suppose the sort of person who would send a death threat over the internet is not going to be known for thier intelligence.
You can’t ever try to talk reasonably with this kind of people. They’re completely mentally checked out already
possible mental illness
Some people just seem to get off threatening people. I’m convinced it’s their kink
I’m over here with my skooma pipe going, “chill, I’m still waiting on Morroblivion and Morrowskyrim”. I don’t think modders have ever managed to finish one of these kinds of projects.
If you are on the Internet you will receive death threats. Why are we treating it like news? I don’t make anything, rarely comment and get told to kill myself about once a month.
It’s messed up, but I hate reading articles of people clutching their pearls over chat from any multiplayer game.
Either create consequences or accept that it’s a part of the Internet.
I seem to interact with the internet more frequently than you and I have literally never been told to kill myself online. And that even might be about to change, but I’m not particularly sensitive to it. Still an absolutely braindead and shitty thing to do
You make it sound normal, which it is not. There is one thing shouting in a game that they will kill you in the game. It’s something totally different when they are sending death threats.
This is not “part of the internet” this is people being insane. The people behind this could face jail time.
You are conflating normal with acceptable.
Death threats are normal on the Internet. People’s lives are constantly threatened on the Internet.
It’s not acceptable. It should be stopped, but currently there is no real enforcement, and no way to stop them. Acting shocked isn’t going to stop them.
If we cover our ears and ignore it, then nothing will ever stop them.
When this kind of online harassment goes unchecked, it can often lead to tragic real-world consequences.
I don’t think I’ve ever received one, so it’s not normal because you’ve received one a month.
I don’t regularly receive death threats, either.
This person might want to evaluate how they carry themselves.
If anyone is wondering why…yeah there’s no reason. It’s just sad losers trolling them and hacking their Discord for no reason other than (probably) the lulz.
We should make the internet unavailable to kids and teens, the temptation of trolling is too much for their undeveloped brains.
There are as many unbearable man-children as there are socially underdeveloped teens on the internet. As sad as that is, even if we banned teenagers from the internet it wouldn’t improve anonymous spaces all that much.
There’s shitty adults too for sure, but I still think a lot of the shitheads online are 14 year olds.
It’s incredibly common for game developers. Change a variable from a 5 to a 4 and you get death threats. Change it back to 5 ane you get more death threats.
The reality is that a lot of gamers simply aren’t very good people (and now they often have the far-right cheering them on).
I loved working in the industry but the constant tantrums and entitlement made it easy to leave.
people who can’t create things threaten people who can create things. huh, what a world eh?
Sounds like capitalism.
Perhaps it says something about us when this is the kind of shit our children find funny.
How pathetic. Humanity sucks man. :(
Remember that it’s most likely just edgy kids, the internet becomes a lot more bearable when you just assume all the dumbos are little kids trying to act cool.
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It’s the internet. Eventually if you’re popular enough, some jerk off will say something dumb.
It’s cheap and easy to do it! Watch: I’ll kill you!
The internet is not your friend.
it’s just a game ugh wtf 😢
It sounds like the story of the AetherSX2 emulator, that happened earlier this year: the main developer got burnt out by all the harassment and threats from toxic individuals and abandoned the project out of frustration.
The internet can be really hard for sensible people, I hope wherever Tahlreth is right now is feeling better.
I don’t entirely hope he’s feeling better cause he definetly lived for the drams, and hyped it up however he could. He also shit talked a lot of other open source devs, especially of emulators
That doesn’t mean he deserves death threats. What the fuck is wrong with you.
Thank God I never said he did, nor believe it eh
The lack of self awareness is palpable
I know people can be absurdly toxic in general, but does it seem like games are an unusually concentrated place for that? If that is the case, why is that?
People that play a lot of videogames are more likely to live an insular life detached from the real world
This is the correct answer, in my opinion. Keyboard warriors usually dry up real quick in the face of physical, meat-space confrontation. Same reason behind road rage, really. I’m only brave while I can hide behind a perceived barrier.
Like two dogs barking at a gate but stop when it opens?
Correct
Exactly like this
Sadly, no. Eventually you stop acting any different in meat-space. Which is humiliating and dangerous, so you isolate yourself further.
Perspective is a hell of a drug
Yeah I really don’t understand this why specifically the gaming communities seem to suffer from this problem more than others.
Perhaps it’s not reported on as much in other hobby circles, or it’s a confirmation bias on my part.
Regardless, it’s really disappointing that these communities have this ‘there I go death-threating again’ stigma growing against them. Absolutely disgusting.
I don’t think it’s games that is the issue. You see this in various other places as well.
Maybe it’s just me then. I know it happens elsewhere, but it just seems to happen more often in games. I feel like I’m reading stories all the time about developers getting threatened, but I feel like it’s much more rare to see for instance stories about filmmakers or authors being threatened.
Naw OP is right. Music fans, tv show fans, etc all have these weird subgroups that take everything way too seriously and go after people or make threats etc etc. I think it’s more whenever you hyper concentrate people, boil them down like this, that this stuff happens.
That’s what I found as well. Some gamers seem to be overly emotional over little things, and are defensive with their favourite games.
Escapists be Escapin’
If I had to guess, it’s because gamers are often more tech-oriented, likely younger and impulsive, video games are more and more popular every year, and also based on your presence here, I’d say you’re more likely to be aware of game-related news in general?
If knitting were more popular, had a greater online presence, and you actively followed knitting communities online, I’d imagine you would probably feel like knitting culture is such a toxic cesspit as well.
(I mean it totally is) (the crochet community is much nicer)
Basically if you try to do anything these days you can expect death threats.