Hugely terrible DRM has now been rolled out to all PS4 and PS5 digital games. Every digital game you buy now requires an online check-in every 30 days. If you buy a digital game and don’t connect your console to the internet for 30 days, your license will be removed.
…Trophies on PS4 require the internal system clock (the one you can’t see / alter) to be correct, so people cant change their PS4 date/time to make it look like they got trophies earlier than they really did. If your PS4 clock battery dies, all your games die
Newly purchased PS4 games now have 30 day valid license timer.
Most likely introduced in March 2026 firmware.
Could be a bug similar to an incident from 2022.
PS5 is affected too, but only shows an error when starting a game.
Update x2: not a bug - PlayStation just quietly confirmed it’s intentional.
Any digital game you buy after the march 2026 update now requires you to go online at least once every 30 days or it won’t even launch.
Literally the kind of bullshit that Sony mocked Xbox for trying with the Xbox One when it and the PS4 came out. When legitimate concerns were brought up that some gamers were not able to connect their device to the internet regularly, for instance if they are in the military deployed overseas or on ships and play games on their downtime, or if they simply lose service for some time for financial issues, or if they have metered connections that they depend on for work, etc. they were told to just buy an older Xbox. Sony gave them hell in interviews after that. Here we are 13 years later, and Sony is busy retroactively doing that dame shit. Smh
They will still have more fun than someone who cannot download (or reactivate the already downloaded) game without a functioning server. Plus they could even sell it, if they wanted to. I’m digital only PC Gamer and even I understand the benefits of physical media (provided its all on disk / cart).
This is of course not a problem for game, but some are downright broken without the day 1 patch, so there’s no fun to be had with these games.
Being able to play a crashing, stuttering version of a game is not on my list of upsides of owning a physical copy.
And selling the disc, knowing that it’s nonfunctional is below me.
I fail to see the benefits. I’d be on your side without a doubt up until the PlayStation 3 and XBox 360 era, but after that it started to crumble, as the finished product too often was not all on disc.
I don’t think most modern releases work offline, as in the disc is just a key or only part of the install data. You need to get online for that extra install data or required day one patch.
I know Steam makes you tick a box saying "hey, paying for the game here means you are paying for a tempory licence. But l am 100% ready to switch to piracy if this comes to Steam. I will am happy to pay the devs through a steam purchase, but just pirate the game afterwards.
This is entirely on brand for Sony. Don’t forget, this is the same company that installed a rootkit on people’s computers for the audacity of *checks notes* putting their music CD into their computer.
This wasn’t a Board decision, it’s not nearly at that level (especially for a company with $80B in revenue). This was some software engineer with an idea and a need to impress his boss.
Exactly the version that made the internet crucify Microsoft.
Not exactly. It’s actually worse.
The Xbox system has your primary console get a permanent license, you only need to be online if you’re using a different console.
This 30 day limit even applies to your primary Playstation console. Meaning the whole primary thing is effectively useless. At least as this system currently exists now.
Lmao. My friend doesn’t have the money to pay for internet for months now. He does have a lot of games for his playstation. I went over and we had to hotspot trough my phone to be able to play GTA5 singleplayer.
Absolutely horrid. This kind of BS should fall under StopKillingGames where singleplayer games should be able to be played without an internet connection.
It’s amazing how all of my Genesis, Playstation 1, and Dreamcast games still work, as will work as long as I have the game and console and they are in good condition. But that isn’t guaranteed for a game I buy next week.
First of all, this disc rot thing isnt really true if you havent been storing them in an outdoor warehouse. That issue mostly pertains to burned discs. Optical media lasts a very very long time.
People say vhs tapes are going bad as well yet I have hundreds that were stored in a damp non climate controlled garage and they work the same as 20 years ago.
The bigger issue is the lasers in the drives. unfixable and no replacement.
The solution is SD cards, and networked play (for ps2 with ethernet )
If that fails, we have emulation forever. Get an adaptor for the og controllers and your golden.
I can fit the entire DC library on 1 SD card. Mind blowing. Truly golden age of gaming right now.
Agreed! I think it’s not uncommon for old games to be stored in places like garages, attics, or storage lockers though, all of which could lack climate control or be almost anti-climate control.
Or maybe there are a lot of people who’ve got scratched discs. Either way, I’ve seen articles with anecdotes of it.
True. People treat discs horribly. Since I was little ive always treated then with the utmost care, same with records. Never understood kids scratching discs. It helps I’m probably autistic.
This is contrary to my headcanon Cyberpunk capitalist-hell future where we all own nothing, and everything is a client and subscription-based, and 2018 kindles and mp3 players go for $700 both due to inflation and people finally realizing what they’d lost.
I recently bought a Ebook from Bookshop.org thinking I could download and transfer it to my cracked Kindle and to support the author only to find out it is DRM locked and can only be read on their specific apps, so now I am asking for a refund and meanwhile downloaded a copy of the book throught other legal sources and enjoying it, all these lockin systems just screw over the paying customers and incentivize sailing the high seas, brain dead greedy pigs will dig their own grave and then pass the blame to others
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Literally the kind of bullshit that Sony mocked Xbox for trying with the Xbox One when it and the PS4 came out. When legitimate concerns were brought up that some gamers were not able to connect their device to the internet regularly, for instance if they are in the military deployed overseas or on ships and play games on their downtime, or if they simply lose service for some time for financial issues, or if they have metered connections that they depend on for work, etc. they were told to just buy an older Xbox. Sony gave them hell in interviews after that. Here we are 13 years later, and Sony is busy retroactively doing that dame shit. Smh
Physical media collectors proven correct once more.
Physical media collectors will have so much fun playing their games without day 1 patches in the future…
Let’s be realistic, they fuck everyone over. Physical and digital.
Only the pirates get the best copies
They will still have more fun than someone who cannot download (or reactivate the already downloaded) game without a functioning server. Plus they could even sell it, if they wanted to. I’m digital only PC Gamer and even I understand the benefits of physical media (provided its all on disk / cart).
This is of course not a problem for game, but some are downright broken without the day 1 patch, so there’s no fun to be had with these games. Being able to play a crashing, stuttering version of a game is not on my list of upsides of owning a physical copy. And selling the disc, knowing that it’s nonfunctional is below me.
I fail to see the benefits. I’d be on your side without a doubt up until the PlayStation 3 and XBox 360 era, but after that it started to crumble, as the finished product too often was not all on disc.
I don’t think most modern releases work offline, as in the disc is just a key or only part of the install data. You need to get online for that extra install data or required day one patch.
Shit sucks.
Physical cs. digital isn’t the problem though. It’s DRM.
This is where emulation and fitgirl will pick up the slack if I want to play anything.
Since when fitgirl is doing Playstation titles
What’s on PlayStation that isn’t on PC anymore?
Bloodborne, Gran Turismo, Infamous, The Order 1886
Playable on ShadPS4 emulator though. I played most of Bloodborne on my PC in 21:9 widescreen at 60 FPS using it. (didn’t finish the game yet)
Before you realize data on the disc is encoded digitally.
If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing*
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I know Steam makes you tick a box saying "hey, paying for the game here means you are paying for a tempory licence. But l am 100% ready to switch to piracy if this comes to Steam. I will am happy to pay the devs through a steam purchase, but just pirate the game afterwards.
Sony made a fucking Xbox One. Exactly the version that made the internet crucify Microsoft. This is incredible.
This is entirely on brand for Sony. Don’t forget, this is the same company that installed a rootkit on people’s computers for the audacity of *checks notes* putting their music CD into their computer.
Ooooo, I hadn’t heard about this.
Can you link to more info?
Edit: Nevermind, my lousy google-fu proved adequate.to find this one. Link for the lazy
It was a huge story, if you Google “sony rootkit” you’ll find a million results
Wiki article
FSF Europe article
OnSecurity article
This is exactly what I thought when I read this. That funny little commercial they made back then isn’t so funny now.
And the whole board of directors nodded and clapped their hands. Nobody understood what it was about, but did it anyway.
This wasn’t a Board decision, it’s not nearly at that level (especially for a company with $80B in revenue). This was some software engineer with an idea and a need to impress his boss.
This was some Director not a software engineer.
Well, he’s a director now.
Not exactly. It’s actually worse.
The Xbox system has your primary console get a permanent license, you only need to be online if you’re using a different console.
This 30 day limit even applies to your primary Playstation console. Meaning the whole primary thing is effectively useless. At least as this system currently exists now.
Damn so Xbox is better about this now lmao
On the very console that owes a huge deal of its initial success to the comparison with the intended XBOne bullshit.
Fucking hell.
Lmao. My friend doesn’t have the money to pay for internet for months now. He does have a lot of games for his playstation. I went over and we had to hotspot trough my phone to be able to play GTA5 singleplayer.
Absolutely horrid. This kind of BS should fall under StopKillingGames where singleplayer games should be able to be played without an internet connection.
Hopefully they can just keep it offline forever. If their Playstation never gets an update, then they shouldn’t have this become a problem
This is worse because there is actual malice involved.
Ah yes, the BlizzActivision gambit. Best countered by selling your PlayStation and getting a PC.
In this economy?
Buy a used PC that can run anything released up to ~2014 and you’re golden.
Most new games such anyway. Literally millions of titles from 95- 2014 that are excellent.
It’s amazing how all of my Genesis, Playstation 1, and Dreamcast games still work, as will work as long as I have the game and console and they are in good condition. But that isn’t guaranteed for a game I buy next week.
PS1 and DC games (especially the DC games) will deteriorate. CD-based games are already dying to disc rot.
If only there were some way to preserve them.
First of all, this disc rot thing isnt really true if you havent been storing them in an outdoor warehouse. That issue mostly pertains to burned discs. Optical media lasts a very very long time.
People say vhs tapes are going bad as well yet I have hundreds that were stored in a damp non climate controlled garage and they work the same as 20 years ago.
The bigger issue is the lasers in the drives. unfixable and no replacement.
The solution is SD cards, and networked play (for ps2 with ethernet )
If that fails, we have emulation forever. Get an adaptor for the og controllers and your golden.
I can fit the entire DC library on 1 SD card. Mind blowing. Truly golden age of gaming right now.
Agreed! I think it’s not uncommon for old games to be stored in places like garages, attics, or storage lockers though, all of which could lack climate control or be almost anti-climate control.
Or maybe there are a lot of people who’ve got scratched discs. Either way, I’ve seen articles with anecdotes of it.
True. People treat discs horribly. Since I was little ive always treated then with the utmost care, same with records. Never understood kids scratching discs. It helps I’m probably autistic.
My discs are pristine.
Ah so in 25 years when I pull out my PS5 it’ll be useless cool cool cool
Just buy all games again as remasters of remasters of remasters.
in 25 years you’ll be able to pirate and emulate whatever PS5 games you want.
This is contrary to my headcanon Cyberpunk capitalist-hell future where we all own nothing, and everything is a client and subscription-based, and 2018 kindles and mp3 players go for $700 both due to inflation and people finally realizing what they’d lost.
but sure, maybe, idk
On your watch.
HAHAHHA
How in the world are you this positive ? No fucking way will it be good.
Perfect timing for the Steam Machine to come back. Shame about the … everything else going on.
It is why I buy on GOG for DRM free when it’s an option there
Its been the perfect time to build a used PC if anything
Good luck finding decently priced RAM, anything at a reasonable price used just gets picked up by scalpers and relisted at the inflated prices.
Haven’t turned on my ps5 since 22. Don’t plan on it. But when I do, it won’t be connected to the internet.
Hopefully some easy hacking methods will be available by then.
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I recently bought a Ebook from Bookshop.org thinking I could download and transfer it to my cracked Kindle and to support the author only to find out it is DRM locked and can only be read on their specific apps, so now I am asking for a refund and meanwhile downloaded a copy of the book throught other legal sources and enjoying it, all these lockin systems just screw over the paying customers and incentivize sailing the high seas, brain dead greedy pigs will dig their own grave and then pass the blame to others
WTF
/me *Smugly looks on after having boycotted Sony for over 2 decades*
Oh no… anyway… -goes back to steam, cause he never had a console past the PS2 and OG Xbox-