I’m talking more along the lines of, having simulator games where you work in a supermarket and you get to cause as much mayhem as possible. Not in terms of just simply killing, but more like, being a very disgruntled worker in a very annoyingly noisy environment with shitty customers. That game doesn’t exist to me and I wish it would.
Instead, we get more simulator games where you’re at the service of the people. That’s going backwards, if you ask me.
Also, I don’t remember asking for armchair psychologists to come here and start dropping unasked thoughts about how to best relieve stress. Check those at the door.
Ha ha, it’s funny reading this immediately after a 4 hour long session of Supermarket Together. Chatting with friends, slacking off, causing mischief (like renaming the store, moving shelves), and being a menace in general - to robbers, innocent customers, employees, or other players.
There’s a whole genre of games you’re describing. Single and coop. Many are free to play.
I found that one of the bars you go to in cyberpunk on a side mission, the police won’t enter no matter how wanted you are. It’s crowded, too. And it feels pretty therapeutic to do a mass shooting in there. Start with a grenade onto the dancefloor then pick people off as they panic and flee.
IRL I’m totally non-violent, but there’s something about doing this that takes the edge off my stress. I’ve returned to that save point several times.
I like Mini Motorways in creative mode for this purpose. You design road systems to connect houses with businesses using limited resources. The music is very peaceful and the pastel colours are very pleasant on the eye. While the other modes are a bit more stressful, creative mode is like a simplified city builder.
And of course the perennial favourite, Stardew Valley.
It always bothers me that red houses only ever want to go to red buildings and that you can just leave a lot of the houses completely unconnected to the road system you built. But making a slightly more realistic traffic simulator would probably be a lot more complicated and a lot less fun.
For the record, the science shows that Destruction Therapy is not effective at actually managing anger, and may actually cause more harm long term, as you’re normalizing that behavior in your brain.
But as for why we don’t see more games along those lines, I don’t know. It does seem like a genre that would sell well right now. I remember there was a series of desktop games when I was a kid called Stress Reducer that would give you a set of animated weapons to “destroy” your windows desktop (an image of it).
You might want to play Red Faction Guerilla or Just Cause 2/3, though the former does take a while to open up your choices of destruction.
Hmm, maybe a “Just Cause <workplace> edition” would be a fun game. Or just “you found the keys to the depot forklift”. The physics simulation would make your computer scream
We do have these, they’re just not super popular or are not intended to be played that way.
Like your first example of causing chaos in a shop? You can do that in Supermarket Simulator. It just isn’t what you’re meant to do unless you’re Josh from Let’s Game it Out. 🤷♂️
It’s probably not entertaining to actually make those videos is my bet. He has to torture himself with insanely grindy tasks for many hours to get such unintended outcomes. Some videos, the payoff isn’t very good. I imagine there’s a lot of games he plays for days trying to break things and nothing comes of it worthy of a new video.
If anything, Josh showcases to us that the games he breaks or gets creatively chaotic in, are games we should avoid. Some of them anyways, like a lot of those awful simulator-based games. I don’t know why anyone in the world would think we would need simulator-based games on already menial IRL work. I would just get PTSD if I was forced to play those games like they expect me to.
I’d especially like to see more games making a modern take on this battle. We used to view Nazis as a historical, comically evil villain. I’d like something new that makes every one of them alive feel thoroughly unwanted in this world.
I am a bit sensitive to motion sickness in games. So I’m never sure if it’s just me or the camera is bad.
Sometimes I take an anti motion sickness medicine before and it works usually.
But not for this game. And I got sick fast. Like 10 min.
I think a lot of game devs think camera bobbing around is more natural but it’s actually the opposite.
Visual processing in humans actually smooths out a lot of the jostle of walking. Plus the inner ear signals balance out whatever is left. That doesn’t happen with a screen image though.
In a similar-to-original-Wolfenstein way there’s Darkenstein. It’s a bit tounge-in-cheek, fairly silly, a lot of fun and free! Your dog has been stolen by Nazis and you have to try to rescue it. You gain health by drinking beer and eating sausage. What’s not to like?
I had similar idea a while ago but admittedly more political than mundane.
You’re a boss in your corporation. game’s objective is to be annoying and mess around with your worker. But somehow through your abuse you also have to keep your corporation alive financially.
It’s a mix of sandbox & tycoon. but the gameplay should be more sandboxed to really allow player create mess, and not very pressured by the goals created by the tycoon aspect.
From what I know about simulator games, they don’t usually simulate asshole customers, and it’s fairly easy to be successful compared to real life. Kinda its own form of stress relief, though I’d assume that the target audience isn’t people who have the simulated job in real life.
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That’s what casual gaming is about.
I used to dig a large room with stone pickaxes in Minecraft. With “large” meaning I could not see the ends in the long direction.
Ha ha, it’s funny reading this immediately after a 4 hour long session of Supermarket Together. Chatting with friends, slacking off, causing mischief (like renaming the store, moving shelves), and being a menace in general - to robbers, innocent customers, employees, or other players.
There’s a whole genre of games you’re describing. Single and coop. Many are free to play.
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I found that one of the bars you go to in cyberpunk on a side mission, the police won’t enter no matter how wanted you are. It’s crowded, too. And it feels pretty therapeutic to do a mass shooting in there. Start with a grenade onto the dancefloor then pick people off as they panic and flee.
IRL I’m totally non-violent, but there’s something about doing this that takes the edge off my stress. I’ve returned to that save point several times.
Because Postal already exists.
And postal 2, 3, and 4
What’s Postal 3?
Was after Postal 2
Naw, thats a blank. Don’t remember that one.
No, it was be4 Postal 4.
You mean the Postal 3 beta? The one that got cancelled so bad that its copy was worked into Postal 2 in the junkyard part of a level?
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I like Mini Motorways in creative mode for this purpose. You design road systems to connect houses with businesses using limited resources. The music is very peaceful and the pastel colours are very pleasant on the eye. While the other modes are a bit more stressful, creative mode is like a simplified city builder.
And of course the perennial favourite, Stardew Valley.
It always bothers me that red houses only ever want to go to red buildings and that you can just leave a lot of the houses completely unconnected to the road system you built. But making a slightly more realistic traffic simulator would probably be a lot more complicated and a lot less fun.
For the record, the science shows that Destruction Therapy is not effective at actually managing anger, and may actually cause more harm long term, as you’re normalizing that behavior in your brain.
But as for why we don’t see more games along those lines, I don’t know. It does seem like a genre that would sell well right now. I remember there was a series of desktop games when I was a kid called Stress Reducer that would give you a set of animated weapons to “destroy” your windows desktop (an image of it).
much like abusing animals doesn’t “get it out of your system,” it just makes your behaviour more extreme
That said, showing love to animals in response to negative emotions is an effective solution
You might want to play Red Faction Guerilla or Just Cause 2/3, though the former does take a while to open up your choices of destruction.
Hmm, maybe a “Just Cause <workplace> edition” would be a fun game. Or just “you found the keys to the depot forklift”. The physics simulation would make your computer scream
Haha, nice game idea, call it “For Cause”!
Try Job Simulator on VR
We do have these, they’re just not super popular or are not intended to be played that way.
Like your first example of causing chaos in a shop? You can do that in Supermarket Simulator. It just isn’t what you’re meant to do unless you’re Josh from Let’s Game it Out. 🤷♂️
I am watching Let’s Game It Out and Josh makes things a lot more creatively entertaining than I think I could do in the games he plays.
It’s probably not entertaining to actually make those videos is my bet. He has to torture himself with insanely grindy tasks for many hours to get such unintended outcomes. Some videos, the payoff isn’t very good. I imagine there’s a lot of games he plays for days trying to break things and nothing comes of it worthy of a new video.
If anything, Josh showcases to us that the games he breaks or gets creatively chaotic in, are games we should avoid. Some of them anyways, like a lot of those awful simulator-based games. I don’t know why anyone in the world would think we would need simulator-based games on already menial IRL work. I would just get PTSD if I was forced to play those games like they expect me to.
Given one of my favorite videos from Josh is a terrible homeless simulator…yep lol.
If you want to shoot Nazis and klan members there are Wolfenstein games.
I bought just for some cathartic relief. Unfortunately the first person camera jostled around too much and gave me too much motion sickness.
Damn. Really needed that.
https://youtu.be/JWfD4geJm2Q
Here is a cool video from a small time creator about why we don’t get Nazi-killing games anymore.
I’d especially like to see more games making a modern take on this battle. We used to view Nazis as a historical, comically evil villain. I’d like something new that makes every one of them alive feel thoroughly unwanted in this world.
At one time it wasn’t controversial to make Nazis an unsympathetic villain.
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Okay it’s not just me then.
I am a bit sensitive to motion sickness in games. So I’m never sure if it’s just me or the camera is bad.
Sometimes I take an anti motion sickness medicine before and it works usually.
But not for this game. And I got sick fast. Like 10 min.
I think a lot of game devs think camera bobbing around is more natural but it’s actually the opposite.
Visual processing in humans actually smooths out a lot of the jostle of walking. Plus the inner ear signals balance out whatever is left. That doesn’t happen with a screen image though.
In a similar-to-original-Wolfenstein way there’s Darkenstein. It’s a bit tounge-in-cheek, fairly silly, a lot of fun and free! Your dog has been stolen by Nazis and you have to try to rescue it. You gain health by drinking beer and eating sausage. What’s not to like?
I see the Postal series has gotten some mentions, but where is my Carmageddon Crew?
CUNNING STUNT BONUS
I had similar idea a while ago but admittedly more political than mundane.
You’re a boss in your corporation. game’s objective is to be annoying and mess around with your worker. But somehow through your abuse you also have to keep your corporation alive financially.
It’s a mix of sandbox & tycoon. but the gameplay should be more sandboxed to really allow player create mess, and not very pressured by the goals created by the tycoon aspect.
Fuck the system before the system fucks you.
Love this concept.
I feel like this is what people do with the multiplayer games where they are allowed to be mean to each other
From what I know about simulator games, they don’t usually simulate asshole customers, and it’s fairly easy to be successful compared to real life. Kinda its own form of stress relief, though I’d assume that the target audience isn’t people who have the simulated job in real life.