I’ll give a short overview of my experience with the phone thus far. In general, I’m pretty happy with it. For now it’s adequately snappy. It does lag in some apps and has some odd behavior (YouTube seems to lock the refresh rate to 60 as soon as any preview starts playing, even if it’s off screen, making scrolling not as smooth), but in general the responsiveness of the phone itself is very good. They have some annoying bugs. For example, they still haven’t fixed the screen being locked to like 10Hz when unlocking the phone sometimes. But, in general, it hasn’t really been a problem, have been using it without much issue. The most annoying part has to be the positioning of the volume buttons, for me at least. They’re positioned on the left side of the phone, directly opposite to the power button, so I’m constantly taking accidental screenshots. It’s extremely annoying, and I don’t understand why they decided to put it there. As someone else mentioned, there are tiny gaps between the screen and the frame, as well as some other seams, so some dead skin gets in there making the phone look a bit dirty, but it isn’t too bad. Double tap to wake is pretty bad, it often doesn’t register double taps properly, and it often gets accidentally activated in my pocket, making the phone try to dial emergency services, forcing me to disable it.
While I have been quite critical when listing the faults, in general I’m still happy with the phone. I was actually surprised by the camera. It’s nothing special, but I expected it to be worse. However, it has much beter performance than I expected, especially in low light, just that the zoom is very bad since it doesn’t have an optical zoom lense. It does what I need it to while being more repairable and from a more ethical company, so if you need a mid range phone, and don’t mind minor inconveniences, I’d recommend it.
For now it seems to work, but I now have a different issue, the fingerprint scanner doesn’t work when I unlock my phone sometimes, which never happened before. Weird
I’m european, so for me it’s easier to buy it, however I’m sad about the fact that mid range phones are now 600€ or whatever.
That is a new low for consumers…
I mean, this one is 600€ because it’s from a small, low volume company, is highly repairable and invests in a bit more ethical materials. You can still find decent midrange phones for e.g. 300€. My friend got a Xiaomi, idk which one exactly, for 300€, and its performance is about on par with my Fairphone.
Totally. I would much rather buy a Fairphone TBH, I don’t think it’s such a high price to pay for what it’s offering, but I guess phone prices are not what they used to be anyways.
Is it pretty “snappy” ? Wondering if there is any lag time or if runs smoothly right away or what settings I got to mess with to minimize responses time.
So far I like it. The screen is great. The speaker is decent. The camera looks to be fairly decent. Not Pixel 8 Pro level at zoom, but otherwise it seems comparable to some of the Pixel a-series cams I’ve seen. The only thing that bugs me so far is the shittier haptic feedback compared to the Pixel. 😄
I am shocked how fast and good the power button fingerprint reader is. Especially coming off of the Pixel’s in-screen reader.
Running stock OS for now.
Among other things, a combination of Fairphone releasing the 6 with improved camera and Google stopping publishing device code with Android 16. The future of third party OSes on the Pixel line is now in limbo. I’m still unsure how well the Fairphone will work on my carrier in Canada since it lacks one of the bands used. Seems okay for now. I’ll need to take it out in the wild and see the impact on signal and battery.
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions (:
I am looking at moving to a OS/Rom that is geared towards pricy and thought the pixel was it! Alas, like you stated the pixels future with a custom OS does not seem clear so I was hoping that the fairphone might be it. I definitely have only done surface level research so far ( I’m poor and don’t want to excited yet haha)
What band does it lack? That’s definitely something I would not have thought of till you mentioned battery life. Looks like I got more research to do before I purchase anyways.
Any chance you’ll update this post with a reply on your results for battery life I would be most interested in the effect and if it’s negligible?
My current phone is about 5 or more generations behind. I’m not a photographer or big picture taker so the drawbacks you noticed wouldn’t even be on my radar haha
Appreciate the detail in your response and time again thank you!
It lacks LTE band 13. Reply to some of my comments in a few weeks time and I’ll see the notifucation and update with some real world testing. If money is a problem, don’t spend it on this. Get a second hand Pixel 7/8/9 when yours dies and use that as they can be found relatively cheap. The a-series are even cheaper but you have to watch for battery issues. The Pixel can still be locked down fairly well with the stock OS by disabling various apps and components, and by throwing anything you don’t trust in Private Space.
Honest question, what do you use your phone for? High refresh rates and stuff like that are nice but what are people actually using their ram and storage for?
RAM helps with multitasking, storage lets you store more stuff (I treat my phone basically as a PC-lite), and good SoC is needed for computational photography. So yeah
I have the 500GB version of the note 20 and have almost completely filled it.
I sync certain folders across all of my devices which is especially useful when i’m planning travel and actually travelling. it also means i can save photos and access and share them across all of my devices.
As for RAM I am extremely selective about what i install on my device, i prune applications regularly and flat out refuse to use apps for services where webapps are available. That in mind, my RAM on my 12GB phone is currently about 75% in use.
I do also watch media on my phone occasionally, especially on flights. the screen on the note20 ultra is very nice for that.
What kind of motorbike would you recommend for vietnam? Redlining a Honda Wave to do 55mph for an hour is awful, but a <200 lb bike is really nice in traffic and when you have to go over curbs, and bigger bikes are more likely to attract police attention.
My buddy got a cb1000r dirt cheap, and hates it in the city, and is constantly paranoid every traffic cop is gonna take the bike or demand a shitton of money.
Are there any notable gaps between the screen and the side?
Can you e.g. put a piece of paper between it? Asking because the predecessor had these and they required cleaning from time to time as dirt accumulated in these
Did you test the camera yet? Are you ok with the zoom or picture quality in darkness?
Did you get a case? How are these available currently?
How is the sound quality?
Did you already open the backcover? Are there any difficulties in doing so?
Are there any notable gaps between the screen and the side? Can you e.g. put a piece of paper between it? Asking because the predecessor had these and they required cleaning from time to time as dirt accumulated in these
Can fit a sheet just about. A thicker sheet might not fit.
Did you test the camera yet? Are you ok with the zoom or picture quality in darkness?
The cam is quite decent in my testing so far. Zoom beyond 2x gets ugly quickly. The system is similar to Pixel a-series. One very good 50MP sensor for everything and low zoom, and one ultra-wide for wide shots and macro. Will be testing it more but first impressions are good. I think I can live with it coming from a Pixel 8 Pro.
Did you get a case? How are these available currently?
No case, Clove didn’t sell one. Still in search for a case.
How is the sound quality?
Not as loud as the Pixel 8 Pro but very good and loud enough. No farts or other bad speaker noises.
Did you already open the backcover? Are there any difficulties in doing so?
Is the software buggy? I did not like the Fairphone 5 mainly because of how buggy the Google Android version was… I had random reboots and freezes, framerate issues, UI elements that glitched or didn’t fit the screen properly. Hope they were able to fix that by now.
I too have the Gen 6, but i choose the e/OS version. Great phone so far.
I have a FP5 with android and haven’t had any major software issue (so far, over the last 1 to 1.5 years). In fact the only issue I noticed was that the 5G implementation was pretty bad at first, using up way to much battery
Well, Pixel 8 is no different to that. The hardware is great, with grapheneos its awesome. But god damn the cellular internet modem is awful. It heats up & drains the battery as well.
If you enable developer settings by tapping the version number in, about settings 5-7 times you can enable “show refresh rate” and see how it changes in real time.
I use Lawnchair. The animations are okay. The same imperfect animations as on my Pixel.
Good to know.
E: Actually I think the back animation is a bit more broken for some apps.
I guess some things can be broken more or less. Thanks for the response.
Consider doing a longterm review in the future when use the phone for longer than a few months.
I’d say mid. It feels similar to a Nexus 5 or a BlackBerry Z10. I like it a lot. There are no pointlessly slippery surfaces that make it slide off of any table. Doesn’t seem like every nick would show. Ever since my first glass-backed phone went into a case, the enclosure premiumness of every phone has lasted of tens of minutes. It’s been all rubber and vinyl afterwards.
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what is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African or European?
how do you know so much about swallows?
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Coconuts of course.
Naturally.
Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
Fairphones.
food or nest building materials
He doesn’t even swallow. He spits.
Swallow, come!
Do you wear wigs?
Have you worn wigs?
Will you wear wigs?
When will you wear Wigs?
No, don’t recall, maybe.
When will you wear wigs?
HAAH-!
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For those who have not seen the brilliant interview where Hans Jensen interviews Elijah Wood!
How did you take a picture of your phone?
We’re not doing this again
I’m invoking the mirror clause immediately.
For the curious: https://web.archive.org/web/20170806233157/https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmwov/hey_reddit_what_tattoos_do_you_have/c0tpyls/
I was there as that unfolded. It was a beautiful thing, and made me love that place in the early days before The Donald and all the corpo-bullshit.
Same. The good old days.
You hold your right index finger to your right temple and blink both eyes.
Noobs. Bet he doesn’t even use Linux.
https://youtu.be/MxmKc0OhsnU
I’ll give a short overview of my experience with the phone thus far. In general, I’m pretty happy with it. For now it’s adequately snappy. It does lag in some apps and has some odd behavior (YouTube seems to lock the refresh rate to 60 as soon as any preview starts playing, even if it’s off screen, making scrolling not as smooth), but in general the responsiveness of the phone itself is very good. They have some annoying bugs. For example, they still haven’t fixed the screen being locked to like 10Hz when unlocking the phone sometimes. But, in general, it hasn’t really been a problem, have been using it without much issue. The most annoying part has to be the positioning of the volume buttons, for me at least. They’re positioned on the left side of the phone, directly opposite to the power button, so I’m constantly taking accidental screenshots. It’s extremely annoying, and I don’t understand why they decided to put it there. As someone else mentioned, there are tiny gaps between the screen and the frame, as well as some other seams, so some dead skin gets in there making the phone look a bit dirty, but it isn’t too bad. Double tap to wake is pretty bad, it often doesn’t register double taps properly, and it often gets accidentally activated in my pocket, making the phone try to dial emergency services, forcing me to disable it.
While I have been quite critical when listing the faults, in general I’m still happy with the phone. I was actually surprised by the camera. It’s nothing special, but I expected it to be worse. However, it has much beter performance than I expected, especially in low light, just that the zoom is very bad since it doesn’t have an optical zoom lense. It does what I need it to while being more repairable and from a more ethical company, so if you need a mid range phone, and don’t mind minor inconveniences, I’d recommend it.
I also have had the 10hz stutter issue. But I tried this and for now it does not seem to occur anymore https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fp6-refresh-rate-dropping-seemingly-random/119947/44
I’ll try it out, thanks!
For now it seems to work, but I now have a different issue, the fingerprint scanner doesn’t work when I unlock my phone sometimes, which never happened before. Weird
I’m european, so for me it’s easier to buy it, however I’m sad about the fact that mid range phones are now 600€ or whatever. That is a new low for consumers…
I mean, this one is 600€ because it’s from a small, low volume company, is highly repairable and invests in a bit more ethical materials. You can still find decent midrange phones for e.g. 300€. My friend got a Xiaomi, idk which one exactly, for 300€, and its performance is about on par with my Fairphone.
Totally. I would much rather buy a Fairphone TBH, I don’t think it’s such a high price to pay for what it’s offering, but I guess phone prices are not what they used to be anyways.
Is it pretty “snappy” ? Wondering if there is any lag time or if runs smoothly right away or what settings I got to mess with to minimize responses time.
How do you like it so far?
Any good/bad surprises?
What OS/rom you planning to run or keep it stock?
What were your motivations for getting it?
Snappier than my Pixel 8 Pro.
So far I like it. The screen is great. The speaker is decent. The camera looks to be fairly decent. Not Pixel 8 Pro level at zoom, but otherwise it seems comparable to some of the Pixel a-series cams I’ve seen. The only thing that bugs me so far is the shittier haptic feedback compared to the Pixel. 😄
I am shocked how fast and good the power button fingerprint reader is. Especially coming off of the Pixel’s in-screen reader.
Running stock OS for now.
Among other things, a combination of Fairphone releasing the 6 with improved camera and Google stopping publishing device code with Android 16. The future of third party OSes on the Pixel line is now in limbo. I’m still unsure how well the Fairphone will work on my carrier in Canada since it lacks one of the bands used. Seems okay for now. I’ll need to take it out in the wild and see the impact on signal and battery.
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions (:
I am looking at moving to a OS/Rom that is geared towards pricy and thought the pixel was it! Alas, like you stated the pixels future with a custom OS does not seem clear so I was hoping that the fairphone might be it. I definitely have only done surface level research so far ( I’m poor and don’t want to excited yet haha)
What band does it lack? That’s definitely something I would not have thought of till you mentioned battery life. Looks like I got more research to do before I purchase anyways.
Any chance you’ll update this post with a reply on your results for battery life I would be most interested in the effect and if it’s negligible?
My current phone is about 5 or more generations behind. I’m not a photographer or big picture taker so the drawbacks you noticed wouldn’t even be on my radar haha
Appreciate the detail in your response and time again thank you!
It lacks LTE band 13. Reply to some of my comments in a few weeks time and I’ll see the notifucation and update with some real world testing. If money is a problem, don’t spend it on this. Get a second hand Pixel 7/8/9 when yours dies and use that as they can be found relatively cheap. The a-series are even cheaper but you have to watch for battery issues. The Pixel can still be locked down fairly well with the stock OS by disabling various apps and components, and by throwing anything you don’t trust in Private Space.
Thanks for all the great info on your post and replies, yeah I’m going to just bite the bullet and do it. Guess it’s time to do real research 🧐
Check what the parts availability is where you are. Some signs point to possible lack of/difficulty obtaining parts in Canada for example.
I want to like these. I compared the specs though and my note 20 ultra from half a decade ago still blow these out of the water in terms of specs.
I want a high end repairable phone
Its like asking for audio jack in iPhone. Never going to happen.
Well, not without Da Revolushun
Honest question, what do you use your phone for? High refresh rates and stuff like that are nice but what are people actually using their ram and storage for?
RAM helps with multitasking, storage lets you store more stuff (I treat my phone basically as a PC-lite), and good SoC is needed for computational photography. So yeah
I have the 500GB version of the note 20 and have almost completely filled it.
I sync certain folders across all of my devices which is especially useful when i’m planning travel and actually travelling. it also means i can save photos and access and share them across all of my devices.
As for RAM I am extremely selective about what i install on my device, i prune applications regularly and flat out refuse to use apps for services where webapps are available. That in mind, my RAM on my 12GB phone is currently about 75% in use.
I do also watch media on my phone occasionally, especially on flights. the screen on the note20 ultra is very nice for that.
Collecting anime girl pngs from slot machines like everyone else
Should I get one?
If you need a phone and can afford it, so far I think so.
How much is it?
Also how much RAM/Storage did you get?
~600€
8GB/256GB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairphone_6
Or 1016 Canadian dollhairs, delivered.
What kind of motorbike would you recommend for vietnam? Redlining a Honda Wave to do 55mph for an hour is awful, but a <200 lb bike is really nice in traffic and when you have to go over curbs, and bigger bikes are more likely to attract police attention.
My buddy got a cb1000r dirt cheap, and hates it in the city, and is constantly paranoid every traffic cop is gonna take the bike or demand a shitton of money.
Sorry I only do light ebikes. 🙂↕️
Is the screen glass easy to change?
Haven’t seen the details but iFixit gave it 10/10 repairability score.
At first congratulations to your new phone.
A few questions:
Can fit a sheet just about. A thicker sheet might not fit.
The cam is quite decent in my testing so far. Zoom beyond 2x gets ugly quickly. The system is similar to Pixel a-series. One very good 50MP sensor for everything and low zoom, and one ultra-wide for wide shots and macro. Will be testing it more but first impressions are good. I think I can live with it coming from a Pixel 8 Pro.
No case, Clove didn’t sell one. Still in search for a case.
Not as loud as the Pixel 8 Pro but very good and loud enough. No farts or other bad speaker noises.
Not yet.
Is the software buggy? I did not like the Fairphone 5 mainly because of how buggy the Google Android version was… I had random reboots and freezes, framerate issues, UI elements that glitched or didn’t fit the screen properly. Hope they were able to fix that by now.
I too have the Gen 6, but i choose the e/OS version. Great phone so far.
I have a FP5 with android and haven’t had any major software issue (so far, over the last 1 to 1.5 years). In fact the only issue I noticed was that the 5G implementation was pretty bad at first, using up way to much battery
Well, Pixel 8 is no different to that. The hardware is great, with grapheneos its awesome. But god damn the cellular internet modem is awful. It heats up & drains the battery as well.
(With android) you can set it to prefer 4G/LTE which is enough tbh
What is your skin treatment routine? Your hands look nice and smooth.
Strict avoidance of defatting injury.
😂
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Didn’t need to so far but I did it for you. It’s still alive. 😄
Does the LTPO display work and save battery by dialing down the refresh rate to 1hz when idle for 24/30hz when playing videos?
Also, do casual games support 120fps like pocket rogues, quest of wizard, etc.
Last question, is the animation experince good with 3rd party launchers like Niagara, Smart launcher 6, Lawnchair?
No idea on the LTPO and refresh rates. Don’t play games. I set it to 60Hz, it defaults to 90Hz.
I use Lawnchair. The animations are okay. The same imperfect animations as on my Pixel.
E: Actually I think the back animation is a bit more broken for some apps.
If you enable developer settings by tapping the version number in, about settings 5-7 times you can enable “show refresh rate” and see how it changes in real time.
Good to know.
I guess some things can be broken more or less. Thanks for the response.
Consider doing a longterm review in the future when use the phone for longer than a few months.
How’s the build quality? Does it feel more like a budget or premium phone?
I’d say mid. It feels similar to a Nexus 5 or a BlackBerry Z10. I like it a lot. There are no pointlessly slippery surfaces that make it slide off of any table. Doesn’t seem like every nick would show. Ever since my first glass-backed phone went into a case, the enclosure premiumness of every phone has lasted of tens of minutes. It’s been all rubber and vinyl afterwards.
You had me at Nexus 5. My favorite smartphone out of the 5 I’ve owned
God damn, I miss that phone. Or I should say, I miss using it. It’s in a drawer.