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But basically search for “battery health assistance” and you should find it.


So I have an update to [my post](https://lemmy.ca/post/50595694) from a couple of weeks ago. I did a few full charging sessions and they all showed estimated capacity around 4700mAh: ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/6c3fd45b-87a3-4bb1-be1b-0746ffd2e13f.png) ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/e2f055ce-f2f6-45f7-911a-dfdcf8135722.png) ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/ea7e7021-847a-4f60-b972-fadbbdd9ca72.png) Then yesterday I found this curious setting, after updating to Android 16 QPR1: ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b929819f-932c-4d44-ac95-8e163dca6b78.png) ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b1e3e405-306c-4c21-8399-07ae474e440d.png) I turned it off, did a full charge session and I got this estimate: ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/d6fd5d4d-b77b-4a10-9a93-06ca66b03601.png) And that result looks to be right back to the normal cycle degradation line: ![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/15b6b17d-4b5c-4fc5-9b2e-b814d805586f.png) I'll do a few more full charge sessions but we have a tentative culprit. Google seems to have introduced a battery capacity cap under this setting, presumably to extend the cycle life of the battery.
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Good call. Measured the flatness of the screen and back glass. Both are perfectly flat. If there’s any swelling going on, it hasn’t pressed against them yet.


It’s no more than 1.5 year-old. If you see its capacity at 90-92, then something’s wrong. If it’s over 95% it might be normal.



Assuming you’re on an 8 Pro, install AccuBattery and clock its capacity over a week.


Awesome. Let me know what your battery capacity looks like when you had a few charge sessions.


I was looking at this chart in AccuBattery and this dip looks rather strange. It does not look like normal battery wear. Did we get nerfed by the July update like the a-series with bad batteries? What's your graph look like, if you use AccuBattery or equivalent?
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Actually I prefer the larger size of the Pixel. I don’t know if I’m jist used to it or it’s my hands but I’ve tended to like bigger phones. I always type double-handed.


You’re probably looking at /e/OS on it. The standard OS launcher is the same as Pixel’s.


Stock, with Google.

Slightly smaller than a Pixel 8 Pro:


Sorry I only do light ebikes. 🙂‍↕️


If possible, you should get a doctor to treat it. Untreated it could get worse. I improved after a few months of PPIs and avoided surgery. I’d do surgery if PPIs didn’t help. Nissen fundoplication has a very high success rate and it’s durable.


It’s not too much smaller,


I don’t eat breakfast. Been doing intermittent fasting for as long as I can remember. Surviving on 2 meals a day, one at lunch and a smaller one at early dinner.




Preliminary battery life results. Using the stock OS. No issues with apps so far, apart from Lawnchair’s back animation being a bit more broken with some apps than on my Pixel.


Preliminary battery testing results:

During this first discharge session, I’ve installed apps, transferred data, posted all my comments here, etc. All on WiFi.


Definitely not noticeably slow. It feels just as fast as my Pixel 8 Pro and it might even feel snappier. I’m sure that CPU-heavy tasks like image editing ops would be slower but the general performance feels great so far.


I haven’t used my phone’s USB port for anything but charging for at least over a decade so I hadn’t even checked the port speed before or after buying.


Yeah latency isn’t and likely cannot be music production grade.


Yeah I have to agree, the financial cost is tiny. The physical packaging cost is high. If you see how dense modern devices are, and how much space modern cameras take, you can see what the cost of taking the equivalent space of a 3.5mm jack is. Ingress is an additional valid engineering problem.

Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t mind devices that are a few mm thicker and therefore have less packaging constraints for jacks, bigger batteries, etc.


Good question.

There was an announcement about QC extending SD 7 and 8 support for up to 8 years but they say it depends on the OEM. Maybe FP is part of that deal. Maybe not.

Now let’s look at the Pixel’s update support from another angle. The problem I see is that the hardware may not last that long in practice. Specifically due to the lack of parts or the prices for those parts. For example a replacement for my Pixel 8 Pro’s battery is currently CAD $160. That used to be $80 when I had a Pixel 5. The screen repair cost is very high. Over the year-and-a-half I’ve had it, its battery capacity has gone down to 92%. A battery I have almost never fast charged. If this degradation rate continues, it’ll need replacement by year 2-3 of the device life. That’ll be $160-200 for another 2-3 years. Then there’s the parts availability. The Pixel 6a, supported to 2027, has a fire-hazardous battery defect requiring battery replacement. Our extended family has a couple. We checked with the authorized repair shops and it turns out they no longer have those batteries. That’s 3 years into the device’s support lifespan. This means it’s quite plausibe that I won’t be able to replace my Pixel 8 Pro’s battery next year, let alone in the 6th year of its 7-year support lifespan. In other words that long of an update support is only meaningful if it’s supplanted by the necessary availability of parts, and ideally the ability to replace them without specialized tools. I’ve tried replacing a Pixel battery in the past and I broke a screen. I’m sure I can get the hang of it if I had the requisite hot plates, high end suction cups and a few spare devices to practice, but that’s not practical for most users.



Check what the parts availability is where you are. Some signs point to possible lack of/difficulty obtaining parts in Canada for example.


Got it. Yeah it makes sense for the warranty. I assumed I could get parts in Canada though. I might have jumped the gun on this one. I thought iFixit sells them and they do but I can see their site says “Not sold in Canads” for a few parts I checked just now. Hmm.

E: It seems that Clove also sells parts. I see some FP4 and 5 parts. No FP6 parts yet.


I think holding the power button brought up something from Google before I disabled the Google app. That should work the same as any other Android device.


In a Qudelix 5K. Ever since phones got really thin and their jacks too fragile for heavy headphone plugs and cables like the ones on MDR-7506/ATH-M50 (mid 2010s), I embarked on a journey into high quality Bluetooth audio receivers. For many years now FiiO has made way better Bt amps than what’s available in most smartphones, even when most had headphone jacks. The Qudelix 5K is one of the best small format amps these days. On the wireless side, LDAC and AptX have eliminated Bt bandwidth as significant quality constraint. That said talking over such a setup has always been some form of bad.


It lacks LTE band 13. Reply to some of my comments in a few weeks time and I’ll see the notifucation and update with some real world testing. If money is a problem, don’t spend it on this. Get a second hand Pixel 7/8/9 when yours dies and use that as they can be found relatively cheap. The a-series are even cheaper but you have to watch for battery issues. The Pixel can still be locked down fairly well with the stock OS by disabling various apps and components, and by throwing anything you don’t trust in Private Space.


I don’t think so.


Write another reply to my comment in a few weeks to ask how the real world testing on cellular has gone. I’ll get a notification and reply.


I’m afraid that ship has sailed a looong time ago for me. 😅


Buddy, I’m in Torontario guy. Bought from Clove UK for 1016 Canadian peso final-final, after DHL blood sacrifice.


Strict avoidance of defatting injury.


Not yet. For now I’m sticking to stock.


Pretty good, similar to a Nexus 5 or a Z10. I’m coming from a Pixel as well, an 8 Pro, if I don’t find any showstopper that is. 😄 I actually like how big the 8 Pro is but I don’t mind the FP6 size.


☺️ Ducks 🦆



Minimum set of Google apps, Fairphone’s cam and “My Fairphone.” That’s about it.


Freedom. The only band it lacks for their Torontario network is band 13. I decided to risk it because Freedom used to run the network without band 13 until a few years ago. So I reason the coverage without it should be similar to the before time. That means a bit of a downgrade in signal and probably battery, given that band 13 is lower power, longer range fequency. But then again the FP’s modem is Qualcomm so it may end up being more power efficient than the turd in my Pixel. So I decided to try it out.


![](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/66ecc6cf-7cb2-4fba-9e55-c1d4ca29cb5e.jpeg) ### Update 1 I see a framerate/refresh rate bug that occasionally locks the framerate at a low value upon unlock. Fixing it requires a lock/unlock cycle.
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This occurred today when trying to cast from YouTube to my Chromecast w/ Google TV (CCwGTV). The CCwGTV doesn't have any updates available and neither do the YouTube apps on the phone or the CCwGTV. Has anyone seen it? Any solution?
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> Knowledge silos and expertise are two sides of the same coin. From full stack engineering to DevOps practitioner, our industry loves to pretend everyone can do everything. We’re an industry of hobbyists. We love to tinker. I don’t know if we are fooling ourselves or if the industry has been exploiting our hobby-driven nature, but it’s time for DevOps to get thrown out of an airlock.
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Chipolo was mentioned in the Find My Device presentation during IO 23. Looking into them I found that they're based in Slovenia. That puts them firmly under EU privacy and general regulation. If you're in the market for such a device, this might not be a bad option. I'm currently using Tile but I pre-ordered Chipolo to try.
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