Hey, do you have any kind of link to somewhere I can find that illustrates thus process? I don’t doubt I could wing it if needed but I often run into one stumbling block after another to eventually succeed. If you don’t know of any guide that’s OK. Thanks for the reply, it is appreciated.

Yeah I don’t have any intention or need to keep a locked bootloader.

Yes, I thought this a bit ridiculous I’ve put a variety of ROMs on dozens of different models. There’s no self-destruct booby trap st the hardware level. Many are difficult some are impossible to flash, but nothing will break itself. That would be a suicidal business decision.

Thank you! I’ll see what’s available on XDA and def. will check the link you posted. Motorola is great with unlocking bootloader. Aside from one or two models that were prepay and not eligible for unlock they’ve provided the codes for all units I’ve tried so far. Should be OK.

Interesting? OK well you’re a stranger on the internet but somehow you think you’ve stumbled upon a Sherlock Holmes moment. But I’ll indulge you. The older Adobe PS Touch that they discontinued basically because it was perfect and they wanted to start peddling subscriptions. It’s a fantastic app. On iOS its gone for good but I have an old iPad 2 with it still installed. I have a Galaxy Note 10+/5G with Android 12 and PS Touch runs beautifully. From my research it seems that Android 14 is where it became impossible to install. Therefore I’d prefer to revert one version.

Also none of these devices are my primary device, none are my actual phone. They’re various pocket computers for various uses. So the Moto I’d really like to have PS Touch working. So I have no security worries.

I buy, refurbish and sell these kinds of phones and the first thing I usually do after testing all the hardware is remove accounts and wipe/factory reset. I’ve had hundreds of unsecured devices in my possession but I have no interest in invading the private lives of strangers nor of accessing their personal data. I respect people.

So, nothing nefarious just boring old typical real life situation.

Will do thanks.

I can never understand how people source their operation on a communication platform. It’s happening on Discord as well. No ownership or control; such a dumb thing to do.

Yeah attachments usually don’t last and they’re often linked on some temporary storage share. I will try some posts on there though. Never know.

I usually sell them or if they’re not desirable I either use as a pocket computer (I do tons of stuff) or give away to someone who wants to learn.

I’m not a developer so making my own build is not happening.

Cool. Thanks.

Well yeah and it’s why I’ll never buy a phone that isn’t sustainable. These companies are a poison to our world. It’s just very disappointing to me how few of us have a shred of integrity. It’s so sad and sickening.

The two big leaders Apple and Samsung they’re leading the way in the poison the earth brigade. And in these times all the assholes who talk about climate change yet use a ton of non-sustainable tech because it’s enjoyable…. They all sicken me and I have no respect for a single one. I’d just as soon they all drop dead.

Plus it means they’ll definitely have an inaccessible battery. More of that is the last thing many people want.

This isn’t exactly, but it actually looks like a really useful tool. Thank you!

Ace! Thanks so much!

Mine just has an icon that looks like fingers crossed lol ;-D

lol.

I’ll have a look at it thanks.

I’ve tried it I think this feature requires paying.

Fing doesn’t do what I asked for. I have Fing on iPhone and Android. It won’t let you define your own ip range.

Oddly, I set mine to 2x because I like the animation being more… Animated. If I wanted speed I would just turn animation off.

Sounds good, I will lookup the syntax. Thank you for the recommendation!

I’ll tell you I think with this specific device it’s just poor planning but there are plenty of bottom rung devices that suck because yeah, they’re made to be worse than all the other devices by that manufacturer in that product line. Manufacturer ABCo wants you to buy their product. They want everyone to have their product and no one else’s. But there’s a price level that’s below anything they make, and so, in order to still get you to buy their brand, they market this bottom of the barrel quality product for just this kind of scenario. They can’t make it good because then why would anyone pay for the next tier up? So they make it appealing-seeming, but sucky enough for you to eventually want something better. And then they’re hoping you’ll buy one of their better products.

But with this device even without multitasking, just browsing the web in Firefox is sometimes so bad that I tap the address bar and it takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to come up.

So yeah… when I bought this I had in mind that I would mod it in whatever way possible.

Yeah the weird thing is it can run smoothly on occasion but when you start doing things it slows down to a crawl in seconds. I stripped so much out of it via ADB and still the simplest things do such awful weigh-down, like even keeping zoom level at minimum the settings app won’t even paint itself and you have to use shortcuts to go to a settings page specifically.

I want an Android that is as minimal as possible. I don’t need gaming hub or game optimization engine running but it seems to sometimes cause a problem if it’s disabled. Like they cross-referenced all these modules within the base elements of parts of the OS so disabling some things that are totally unnecessary can still break things in the foundation because from the development standpoint they always assume it’s all there. I’m not entirely positive of this, I could be mistaken, and I hope I am because it seems extraordinarily sloppy.

This unit is an exercise in unrealized potential because of being bloated down by an unreliable overcoat.

I don’t want Lineage on this thing anyway.

I’ll take a look at the Magisk one to see what it can do, thanks!

It should never be such a pain. TotalCommander allowed me to use any of my thousand TTF fonts by browsing to them and selecting one. That’s it. Simple and instant. It only works within the app for display, though. Of course, TotalCommander was made by the best, works on every device literally and fails at nothing at all. Maybe the Android developers should ask them how to code.

Valid points! Like I was saying to some others, I don’t really need a setting to go into and say here’s my own fonts, but I don’t like that it’s not even doable (unless you know how to backdoor it?)

By the way, thank you for that link!!! That article is insightful as well as reminding me that there are other people who think exactly like I do; I was thinking it’s like I could have written it myself, it’s so in-line with how I think and what I complain about! I practically gushed when he made the CSI:NY reference without drawing attention to it.😄

Well Google search stopped being about accuracy quite a while ago. It’s all about money now and directing searches to the highest bidder.

I don’t think Boolean operators are not able to be used anymore, are you sure about that?

I’m so sick and tired of literally everything in the world that has beautiful potential quickly getting turned into just another way to shovel in cash by feeding stupid and troglodyte level sophistication.

Can not one fucking thing remain intelligent and noble? Do we get nothing at all? Everyone sells out, ultimately - and I don’t even think it’s always by choice. Call me a conspiracy nut but I’ve long ago concluded that there are authorities maintaining an influence and status quo of ignorance and stupidity, and anyone who dares to try to serve up something better gets threatened or killed, bought out, whatever needed to put an end to their honorable intentions.

Lots of people do real work on iPads and iPads have plenty of fonts. iOS while not as easy as on a desktop, does let you add fonts. Maybe it’s one reason why Android has all but entirely abandoned the idea of tablets. iPad is what everyone goes for because they’re meeting the users’ needs - mostly, anyway.

I love Android and wish it would be able to promise the same because I have much more freedom to customize and I have more authority over the software, storage, and more things. It’s just many factors seem to have been neglected, and rather than “it’s on the todo,” the attitude seems to be “no; you don’t need or want that,” and that’s supposed to be Apple’s sanctimonious stance, not Android.

I’m not sure how much of what you’re saying is accurate, but my iPhone has like thirty fonts. Android has five. I’m not asking for something unreasonable; I should be able to expect it and be surprised and disappointed that it’s such a prohibitive notion.

All my Windows computers over the years have had hundreds of custom fonts I’ve installed. Never once had malicious code in a font, and that’s Windows - the biggest target for viruses.

I’m just saying by now it should not be considered superfluous or some kind of luxury, it should be considered expectable.

It’s just for research and experimentation; none of these are on actual active duty.

Well, what I obviously meant is obsessed with controlling others and others’ behavior, possessions and lives.

Well, several of my devices are rooted, one has Cyanogen one has Lineage and I’m working on a few others to see what I can put on there. I’m using Iconeration to make custom icon collections for my screens the way they appeal to me.

Everyone is obsessed with control. Fuck that and fuck them. Thank goodness the EU is hammering down on manufacturers and protecting consumer rights. That ends up propagating to the U.S.A. just because of inertia and it’s not worth making things multiple ways. But it would never happen here on its own because these companies write our laws. It’s good there’s still countries where the peoples’ liberties are protected. But I digress.

Ooh thanks. I will look into it.

I know Samsung has a variety but they charge for them. Fuck that I have like a thousand TTF files. But I’ll look at that app thank you. I tried iFont it doesn’t support the device I happen to try but I have several others I’ll see if any are supported.

Yeah the ringtones used to be a pain in the ass because the carriers really wanted to make you buy them. But you could always use an mp3 converted into m4a format and then just rename the extension to m4r and sync it. But the way I do it is I use garage band. You make a new empty project from recording (don’t actually record anything) then import an mp3 onto the track and export then go into files and select the file and command make ringtone. The instructions are online now and ubiquitous. It used to be a secret lol. It takes like all of a minute to do.

That’s why my initial suspicion was with the fonts maybe they want you to buy fonts, because I did see in the Samsung store I think there are some for purchase but screw that. I downloaded the free ones and they get added to the settings list. There’s an app called iFont but it doesn’t support all devices, just some.

Anyway, I just think it’s rather pathetic. Back 30 years ago I was tilting a dump truck of TTFs into any computer I used so I’d have all the fonts I wanted. I had a repository of a few hundred megabytes of them. Still have them lol.

So why is it, 30 years later and a “Smart”phone can’t fucking let me import a font file.

PROGRESS

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Ok thanks. This is just an experiment at the moment it’s not my actual phone it’s a spare. I have a bunch of phones that are a little old and I’ve been testing out roms to see what I like.

Oh, yeah the extended storage mode is iffy. They’re all iffy to be sure, and I’ve seen icons be faded upon boot also but immediately they catch up and show solid.

Ironically, at least in my experience it is better to leave the SD as external, and use developer options to allow moving app to external even if not in the manifest. It’s all about what apps you choose to move, less about the performance. Like I said, I don’t move apps that need to run realtime and read and write data regularly, but stuff like icon packs, books, stuff like that, really anything that loads data only occasionally.

Right now, my real phone is still iPhone, but I’m thinking I’ll change to android eventually. But I use several android devices as additional pocket computers.

I can’t fathom why lineage devs made it like, not feasible. That should be up to the user. I did try to integrate some SD cards as extended internal storage but it fails every time with some java error and reports the SD corrupted. Lol three brand new chips are not corrupted dumbass Lineage lol. Good ones, too! So yeah, they effectively wrote it off as not an option. That’s the one problem I have at the moment that I strongly disapprove. Other than that, the performance is insane! Similar with Cyanogen.

I still want to try out stuff like ResurrectionRemix, Havoc, /e/ and maybe Rising. For now I’m content mostly with Lineage on this Galaxy S5 but I really want to get something working that will let me move apps to the SD.

Thank you for all the replies and your insights. Greatly appreciated!

Hey do you think you can recommend a good utility to move apps to the SD card? I understand that performance is a major issue and I’ve even seen apps not work properly when run off there, which is why I only ever move things like Icon Packs or other referential apps, not stuff that needs to function in realtime and stay loaded. But Lineage does not allow this, even if you turn it on in developer options. Pretty sure that even being there is only an oversight. But the device I’m toying with only has 16GB internal, and icon packs are huge and absolutely don’t need to be on internal.

do gatekeep pretty hard.

Yeah, what the hell is up with that?? It seems like they go out of their way to provide the content, but be ambiguous as they can about getting it to use. Who are they trying to impress? Some people have speculated it’s just plain laziness, which I would not discount, but it seems like uniform laziness which would be weird. The instructions to install Lineage on this device were only the second set of instructions I’ve found that were coherent and comprehensive. I have tried to understand many others but they were really just plain incomplete!

Hey, dude or dudette, This worked perfectly! Thank you so much. On XDA forums these people write instructions like their abbreviating stuff on a grocery list. All it said for root was “get the latest magisk.zip from GitHub and install.” Um - first of all, there’s no zip from there, you need to rename the apk to zip - which he made no mention of. Second, saying to install an app is normally just running the apk in a file manager. Piss poor instructions from those guys. And that’s consistent with pretty much almost all instructions I’ve seen over the past like year… YOU should be writing instructions on those pages FFS. And this you provided to me from memory! Dude/Dudette, you’re AWESOME. Thank you.

And it’s crazy also because I do not understand what the aging fuck I just did, and yet I’ve run my own IT company for nearly two decades. I think it’s because mobile devices are so much in their own little pocket tech world. I dealt mostly with hardware and OS such as Windows and Linux, and software and network engineering and support. Mobile phones are such a separate cosmos.

Anyway, thank you again, a million times! I appreciate your help so much. I would gladly return the favor if you ever need something that I can provide. Peace out.

P.S. the only difference was in TWRP now you don’t go to install, they have a separate ADB Sideload button. Other than that, literally step by step it was perfect instructions and took all of like 3 minutes in total. Most of that was the reboots lol.

I will try this, thank you!! I appreciate the fast response, too!

Question: sideload how? Sorry, I am not completely familiar… should I just adb push it onto the internal disk? Also, should I leave the existing installation on there?

One last question: why is the latest shown on github as 27 yet the app downloads 28 to update?

This is getting downright creepy. The site androidfilehost has thousands of listings. I go through alphabetically, on page 54 it goes from Spirit to Stylo. Splendor is NOT EVEN LISTED.

What the hell is it with this phone that its existence has nearly been erased from the internet???