I’ll tell you I think with this specific device it’s just poor planning but there are plenty of bottom rung devices that suck because yeah, they’re made to be worse than all the other devices by that manufacturer in that product line. Manufacturer ABCo wants you to buy their product. They want everyone to have their product and no one else’s. But there’s a price level that’s below anything they make, and so, in order to still get you to buy their brand, they market this bottom of the barrel quality product for just this kind of scenario. They can’t make it good because then why would anyone pay for the next tier up? So they make it appealing-seeming, but sucky enough for you to eventually want something better. And then they’re hoping you’ll buy one of their better products.
But with this device even without multitasking, just browsing the web in Firefox is sometimes so bad that I tap the address bar and it takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to come up.
So yeah… when I bought this I had in mind that I would mod it in whatever way possible.
Yeah the weird thing is it can run smoothly on occasion but when you start doing things it slows down to a crawl in seconds. I stripped so much out of it via ADB and still the simplest things do such awful weigh-down, like even keeping zoom level at minimum the settings app won’t even paint itself and you have to use shortcuts to go to a settings page specifically.
I want an Android that is as minimal as possible. I don’t need gaming hub or game optimization engine running but it seems to sometimes cause a problem if it’s disabled. Like they cross-referenced all these modules within the base elements of parts of the OS so disabling some things that are totally unnecessary can still break things in the foundation because from the development standpoint they always assume it’s all there. I’m not entirely positive of this, I could be mistaken, and I hope I am because it seems extraordinarily sloppy.
This unit is an exercise in unrealized potential because of being bloated down by an unreliable overcoat.
I’ll take a look at the Magisk one to see what it can do, thanks!
It should never be such a pain. TotalCommander allowed me to use any of my thousand TTF fonts by browsing to them and selecting one. That’s it. Simple and instant. It only works within the app for display, though. Of course, TotalCommander was made by the best, works on every device literally and fails at nothing at all. Maybe the Android developers should ask them how to code.
Valid points! Like I was saying to some others, I don’t really need a setting to go into and say here’s my own fonts, but I don’t like that it’s not even doable (unless you know how to backdoor it?)
By the way, thank you for that link!!! That article is insightful as well as reminding me that there are other people who think exactly like I do; I was thinking it’s like I could have written it myself, it’s so in-line with how I think and what I complain about! I practically gushed when he made the CSI:NY reference without drawing attention to it.😄
Well Google search stopped being about accuracy quite a while ago. It’s all about money now and directing searches to the highest bidder.
I don’t think Boolean operators are not able to be used anymore, are you sure about that?
I’m so sick and tired of literally everything in the world that has beautiful potential quickly getting turned into just another way to shovel in cash by feeding stupid and troglodyte level sophistication.
Can not one fucking thing remain intelligent and noble? Do we get nothing at all? Everyone sells out, ultimately - and I don’t even think it’s always by choice. Call me a conspiracy nut but I’ve long ago concluded that there are authorities maintaining an influence and status quo of ignorance and stupidity, and anyone who dares to try to serve up something better gets threatened or killed, bought out, whatever needed to put an end to their honorable intentions.
Lots of people do real work on iPads and iPads have plenty of fonts. iOS while not as easy as on a desktop, does let you add fonts. Maybe it’s one reason why Android has all but entirely abandoned the idea of tablets. iPad is what everyone goes for because they’re meeting the users’ needs - mostly, anyway.
I love Android and wish it would be able to promise the same because I have much more freedom to customize and I have more authority over the software, storage, and more things. It’s just many factors seem to have been neglected, and rather than “it’s on the todo,” the attitude seems to be “no; you don’t need or want that,” and that’s supposed to be Apple’s sanctimonious stance, not Android.
I’m not sure how much of what you’re saying is accurate, but my iPhone has like thirty fonts. Android has five. I’m not asking for something unreasonable; I should be able to expect it and be surprised and disappointed that it’s such a prohibitive notion.
All my Windows computers over the years have had hundreds of custom fonts I’ve installed. Never once had malicious code in a font, and that’s Windows - the biggest target for viruses.
I’m just saying by now it should not be considered superfluous or some kind of luxury, it should be considered expectable.
Well, several of my devices are rooted, one has Cyanogen one has Lineage and I’m working on a few others to see what I can put on there. I’m using Iconeration to make custom icon collections for my screens the way they appeal to me.
Everyone is obsessed with control. Fuck that and fuck them. Thank goodness the EU is hammering down on manufacturers and protecting consumer rights. That ends up propagating to the U.S.A. just because of inertia and it’s not worth making things multiple ways. But it would never happen here on its own because these companies write our laws. It’s good there’s still countries where the peoples’ liberties are protected. But I digress.
Yeah the ringtones used to be a pain in the ass because the carriers really wanted to make you buy them. But you could always use an mp3 converted into m4a format and then just rename the extension to m4r and sync it. But the way I do it is I use garage band. You make a new empty project from recording (don’t actually record anything) then import an mp3 onto the track and export then go into files and select the file and command make ringtone. The instructions are online now and ubiquitous. It used to be a secret lol. It takes like all of a minute to do.
That’s why my initial suspicion was with the fonts maybe they want you to buy fonts, because I did see in the Samsung store I think there are some for purchase but screw that. I downloaded the free ones and they get added to the settings list. There’s an app called iFont but it doesn’t support all devices, just some.
Anyway, I just think it’s rather pathetic. Back 30 years ago I was tilting a dump truck of TTFs into any computer I used so I’d have all the fonts I wanted. I had a repository of a few hundred megabytes of them. Still have them lol.
So why is it, 30 years later and a “Smart”phone can’t fucking let me import a font file.
PROGRESS
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Oh, yeah the extended storage mode is iffy. They’re all iffy to be sure, and I’ve seen icons be faded upon boot also but immediately they catch up and show solid.
Ironically, at least in my experience it is better to leave the SD as external, and use developer options to allow moving app to external even if not in the manifest. It’s all about what apps you choose to move, less about the performance. Like I said, I don’t move apps that need to run realtime and read and write data regularly, but stuff like icon packs, books, stuff like that, really anything that loads data only occasionally.
Right now, my real phone is still iPhone, but I’m thinking I’ll change to android eventually. But I use several android devices as additional pocket computers.
I can’t fathom why lineage devs made it like, not feasible. That should be up to the user. I did try to integrate some SD cards as extended internal storage but it fails every time with some java error and reports the SD corrupted. Lol three brand new chips are not corrupted dumbass Lineage lol. Good ones, too! So yeah, they effectively wrote it off as not an option. That’s the one problem I have at the moment that I strongly disapprove. Other than that, the performance is insane! Similar with Cyanogen.
I still want to try out stuff like ResurrectionRemix, Havoc, /e/ and maybe Rising. For now I’m content mostly with Lineage on this Galaxy S5 but I really want to get something working that will let me move apps to the SD.
Thank you for all the replies and your insights. Greatly appreciated!
Hey do you think you can recommend a good utility to move apps to the SD card? I understand that performance is a major issue and I’ve even seen apps not work properly when run off there, which is why I only ever move things like Icon Packs or other referential apps, not stuff that needs to function in realtime and stay loaded. But Lineage does not allow this, even if you turn it on in developer options. Pretty sure that even being there is only an oversight. But the device I’m toying with only has 16GB internal, and icon packs are huge and absolutely don’t need to be on internal.
do gatekeep pretty hard.
Yeah, what the hell is up with that?? It seems like they go out of their way to provide the content, but be ambiguous as they can about getting it to use. Who are they trying to impress? Some people have speculated it’s just plain laziness, which I would not discount, but it seems like uniform laziness which would be weird. The instructions to install Lineage on this device were only the second set of instructions I’ve found that were coherent and comprehensive. I have tried to understand many others but they were really just plain incomplete!
Hey, dude or dudette, This worked perfectly! Thank you so much. On XDA forums these people write instructions like their abbreviating stuff on a grocery list. All it said for root was “get the latest magisk.zip from GitHub and install.” Um - first of all, there’s no zip from there, you need to rename the apk to zip - which he made no mention of. Second, saying to install an app is normally just running the apk in a file manager. Piss poor instructions from those guys. And that’s consistent with pretty much almost all instructions I’ve seen over the past like year… YOU should be writing instructions on those pages FFS. And this you provided to me from memory! Dude/Dudette, you’re AWESOME. Thank you.
And it’s crazy also because I do not understand what the aging fuck I just did, and yet I’ve run my own IT company for nearly two decades. I think it’s because mobile devices are so much in their own little pocket tech world. I dealt mostly with hardware and OS such as Windows and Linux, and software and network engineering and support. Mobile phones are such a separate cosmos.
Anyway, thank you again, a million times! I appreciate your help so much. I would gladly return the favor if you ever need something that I can provide. Peace out.
P.S. the only difference was in TWRP now you don’t go to install, they have a separate ADB Sideload button. Other than that, literally step by step it was perfect instructions and took all of like 3 minutes in total. Most of that was the reboots lol.
I will try this, thank you!! I appreciate the fast response, too!
Question: sideload how? Sorry, I am not completely familiar… should I just adb push it onto the internal disk? Also, should I leave the existing installation on there?
One last question: why is the latest shown on github as 27 yet the app downloads 28 to update?
No idea. I just went through the lgstockroms website… over 1,220 models listed across 52 pages. This one is not fucking there.
What the hell? I just don’t get it. This isn’t the first time some weird arbitrary-seeming absence has occurred in tech that I’ve seen.
Years ago I bought a business class Netgear wireless router that offered everything that was at the top of the line at the time. It wasn’t for me it was for a family member. The thing operated flawlessly, performance was absolutely perfect, the management interface was clean, intuitive and sensibly designed.
It was a little strange because it wasn’t advertised on the business class products listings in my distributor’s catalog, nor in the consumer listings either. I somehow stumbled upon it by accident and ordered it. Price was good and specs were good. Also never had seen it in a store anywhere ever.
Like a year later I wanted to get this same product for someone who needed that kind of solution. Could not find it anywhere. Could also not find a single trace of its existence. No reference on their website or anything. Like it never existed!
I called Netgear at the time I was a reseller directly with them, and I had to go through several people to find anyone who’d even heard of it. I explained everything I have written here, and asked why it was like it never existed? This guy says to me “You say it was perfect?” I’m like “Yes!” He says “And it operates with no trouble whatsoever, and it handles everything well, and no need for anything else, and it’s easy to use and doesn’t fail, and has no defects or design flaws, and the software has no bugs?” I was like “Yes yes yes and yes! Why are there none of these around and why is it impossible to find???”
He responded “Haven’t you already answered your own question?”
I don’t know much about this LG phone because I acquired it second-hand and rooted it. Then after tinkering for a bit I made a change in the root privileges that it should elevate superuser immediately upon booting. This was apparently a problem and it is now in this unusable state. But I gotta say the little I used it, it seemed fantastic! Performed smoothly, easily rooted, ran really nicely given its humble specs. Maybe this is one of those cases where they really don’t want it on the market because it was too reliable and lacked nothing. I imagine the files I’ve been looking for have been gone for a long time already. This kind of thing happens more than most people know. A brand puts out a product that’s just awesome and nobody would want any alternative for that class of product, and would not need to replace it soon either. That’s not good for business the way business works these days. They rely on their products being just good enough to make it sell, but plenty of hidden awfulness to make sure you’ll need something new soon enough. That’s what makes billions not millions.
So maybe this is one such item.
Hey thanks for these. Question: Can you think of any reason why the site firmwarefile.com has EVERY goddamn brand EXCEPT LG? Seriously… 9 pages of brands… LG absent. What. The. Strange. Absolute. Fuck?
I’ll take a look thank you! Yeah the firmware’s site is where LG support links to and their site is shit. First of all, after two attempts it says you can only download two files per day. It uses IP not cookie so I used VPN to retry but it’s a dead link. The thing actually said to me “You are a spammer” seriously no shitting. Assholes.
But I’ll look at everything you provided thanks.
Their captcha crap is fucking atrocious. Sometimes it cannot be done without reloading over and over for like ten minutes until you get a usable image. Captcha is such drek.
Hey, So… after a lot of exhausting searching and attempting to get the tools, looks like EVERY one of these is defunct. Either dead links, or updates have since patched out the ability to do whatever is needed. I feel like Lineage is a short-lived option where the only practical route is to buy a phone that they officially support right now (as in, when you want to do it). I have also searched beyond your recommended links… A LOT. Dozens and dozens of youtube tutorials, XDA threads, and other websites. All with the same flashy “INSTALL LINEAGE ON zzzzz” and ALL dead. Missing files. Or comments by the hundred saying it fails. Or youtube videos that just want the fucking clicks so what they do is not actually possible; therefore they just use some kind of video trickery to leapfrog over one essential step that will actually not be possible.
Anyhoooo… What I HAVE been able to do is find lots of great rooting tools and threads so I have rooted like half of my phones lol. Also gotten some great tools to optimize even without rooting by using ADB and strip/disable lots of stuff that’s just bloat.
I still would love someday to explore Lineage, /e/, Havoc, and many other custom ROMS. It seems, though, that for every legitimate tutorial, there are a hundred that are just clickbait, or more recently the cancer that is AI bot copied SHIT. AND, besides all that, lots of the tutorials have dead links so whatever ROM they were hosting is not there anymore. The official sites remove versions that they no longer support, so even if you want to just take a risk with an unimportant phone, you cannot even get what was once an official build!
Some day, I will try again when I have plenty of free time, but for now I guess I am sticking with whatever is there already and just customize the shit out of it, plus root where possible.
Thank you for your efforts, though, it was appreciated!
This isn’t exactly, but it actually looks like a really useful tool. Thank you!