Meta introduces new anti-piracy measures for Meta Quest 2
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Meta introduces a new API that performs hardware and application checks, targeting piracy among other things.

Meta sneakily introduced “Platform Integrity Attestation API” which basically calls home to see whether the user has a valid license to play.

This means that to run apps user has to have online connection to perform an integrity test. Whether it’s only a test on launch or continues call home like Denuvo-like DRMs is not yet clear. This could also mean that modified headsets could fail to pass this test essentially closing down the device for modifications that could damage “platform integrity”. Not all details are clear yet but this doesn’t look good.

Currently it’s optional and up to app developers to enable it.

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This fucking headset was the only one I could afford and now theyre trying to ruin it… greeeeaat…

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So glad I avoid Meta products. I doubt they will be satisfied until they can live sell your data and display ads while you use the product.

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Those are two very different things. Advertising giants don’t actually “sell” your data, it’s really not in their best interest, they make money by being the only ones with your data.

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So… they sell, lease, etc either your data or some value added bullshit services or products based on your data for a higher price due to monopoly?

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No, they sell advertment slots to advertisers with promise of higher ad interaction, a promise they can keep because they target those advertisements to users that are more likely to interact with them using user data. User data isn’t sold, leased, whatever you want to call it.

Also, technically not entirely a monopoly because there are quite a few tech giants that operate like this. Oligopoly would be the correct term.

All the shills promised me and other doubters that something like this would never happen. I’m glad I lost all interest in Oculus the moment Facebook bought them.
Hopefully we’ll see some solid info on the Deckard this year.

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Same. And it’s sad because, from what others have said, they are great vr headsets. Hopefully valve nails it with Deckard.

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I so wish Facebook dropped Oculus so that someone else would do it properly.

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This will be removed once thousands of little Billy or grandma’s can’t get that app to work, just like the Facebook requirement. Their support is a joke.

I had an app stuck in the update queue (still no way to see that queue). The recommendation was to do a factory reset. Not open up queue, restart download, not remove from queue - none of those things you can do! Good thing I had sidequest and was able to open up the quest taskmanger on my computer and do a force quit or I would never have been able to download anything again!

No way they let something that does that on purpose everytime the router goes out. Millions of factory resets? No, millions of returns.

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I hope you’re right.

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Yep. Called it. Again.

Glad I got a Vive.

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You’re still using a Vive?

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Some people aren’t using any VR headset.

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Oh, that’s fine! I’m just impressed with the longevity some people have gotten out of the Vive. It was a well built HMD.

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I have trigeminal neuralgia, a painful nerve disorder in my face, meaning I can’t wear VR headsets. So when I find out that Zuckerberg’s “VR is going to change everything” bullshit has yet another issue, I feel smug. Pretty much the only time I can feel smug about trigeminal neuralgia.

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I’m so, so, so sorry. My infraorbital nerve runs through my maxillary sinus and I had really fucking bad 3-month sinus infection that caused nerve pain on that isolated nerve (among a lot of other things). I can’t imagine how you are dealing with this even though I do have nerve pain elsewhere.

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Thanks. I’ve had it for 10 years now and I’m on a good regimen of pharmaceuticals that deal with the vast majority of pain, but my face is still too sensitive to have anything on it for more than about 5 minutes. Sorry to hear you’re dealing with nerve pain yourself and I hope you find a solution that will at least help.

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I thought about getting a Quest 2. Glad I didn’t.

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What’s the Decard?

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Another reason I would never buy a Meta product

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I can’t imagine what kind of a bad way I’d have to be in mentally to end up buying a Meta product…

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Looks like my rift s is still unaffected. Guess I’ll be holding onto it for another 4 years (who am I kidding, I was going to anyway)

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Who the fuck are buying shit from google and Facebook? No wonder fucking internet is going to shits

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Google Pixel phones are the only phones compatible with GrapheneOS, so there’s one reason.

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They’re also absolutely the best phones you can buy, in my opinion.

And you literally can’t buy phones that don’t have anti-consumer software.

No one sells the old Nokia bricks, and even if they did, the networks they run on have been deprecated.

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They’re also easy to unlock and relock the bootloader on

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You can relock the bootloader? Basically “unrooting” the device??

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It’s not “unrooting” it’s just preventing your OS from being replaced. It’s an easy change for anyone with physical access to the device who can get past the lock screen, but can’t be done by accident. So you won’t be accidentally installing malicious software that will reinstall your OS, for example.

The unlock/lock and install can be done through a website, but it requires your phone to be plugged in to a computer, and you can enable/disable unlocking through the developer menu in the phone’s settings.

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You can also use the standard android CLI tools to lock and unlock the bootloader, but that web app is really convenient.

Edit: and for anyone wondering, you can re-lock it with any ROM, or after rooting (you don’t lose root). I’m running grapheneos with a locked bootloader. Only difference between this and the stock ROM is a message that’s displayed when you boot that warns you the phone isn’t stock.

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Yes but beware it will wipe everything on your phone!

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So it just wiprs out the new OS?

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Just user data

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The quest is amazing. It’s cheap and completely standalone while also giving you the ability to use it with pc vr games.

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If you got a good PC for VR the Quest is great to use. I played HL Alyx on it which was incredible.

But the DRM BS though…at this point the Pico is looking better for standalone use

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What DRM BS? This article? I’ve explained why it’s a whole bunch of fear mongering. There have been apps and games that require always online long before this api came around.

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Aaaaaaaaaand just like that, never buying a Facebook headset. Also because apparently they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.

Meh.

I’ll go valve index 2.0

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they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.

I think this is wrong, at least on the quest 2, this used to be the case, but they got rid of this requirement I think a year or so ago.

If you have a source, pls provide it.

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I dunno, I just remember reviewers discussing it. I don’t have facebook. But looks like they did in fact ditch the facebook account requirement… in favor of meta accounts https://www.tomsguide.com/news/meta-just-removed-facebook-login-requirement-for-quest-headsets-what-you-need-to-know

No thanks.

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Didn’t they just change to require meta account instead?

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Index 2.0 when?

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Whenever it graces us with its presence. lol.

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