“Mostly the same games” except for all the Nintendo IP. Most folks aren’t pirating games I’d imagine so they’re aren’t really the same libraries for the vast majority of consumers.
The vast majority of Switch games are not made by Nintendo, and the vast majority of those are available on PC and Steam Deck, and typically better versions of those games at that.
Yeah, sorry, you’re not going to try have a neutral perspective about this, are you?
But humor me, why are so many Switch still being sold if other stuff is so superior? After all, like you said, they’re quite comparable and hey, Deck seems strictly superior. Right?
Because Nintendo games on Nintendo handhelds almost never go wrong and you know what parents love? Their kids shit always just working. You dont have to check the system specs, you buy the game at the store and it WORKS. You wrap the game under a tree at Xmas, you can tell grandma “Nintendo Switch” and while she might pick something shit, its going to work.
Lemmings love to act like they are enlightened for figuring out the Steam deck is better… its not for you. Its for 5 to 10 year olds.
I mean, I just said they were comparable. To say that they’re not remotely comparable is laughable. But here are a quick few reasons: one of them is in Walmart and the other is not; one appeals to children (not the least of which is the presence of a brand “moat” in Pokemon) in a way that most other electronics do not, which also translates to multiple children in a family each having their own, which drives up sales numbers; one of them already had an international distribution chain to handle territories like Australia rather than having to build one up; one came out 5 years earlier than the other, including existing in a time period where handheld gaming PCs were typically not driving comparable 3D graphics, but that changed a mere few years later with advancements from AMD in the x64 space.
This is a paradigm shift that has occurred since the Switch’s launch. Here’s an interesting thought: do you think there will still be the “port everything to the Switch” crowd for the next Switch when the game already has a PC version ready to go on the Steam Deck? Because I’ll bet they just buy that device, or a competing handheld PC, instead without having to hope that the game they want to play gets a Switch version, and that’s exactly the weakness of the console model in the modern era.
The differences between those two things have begun to dissolve very quickly in the past 5 or so years, and that’s both why they’re very comparable and why so many people are seeing the writing on the wall for consoles.
They’re keeping the layout and “adding more storage”, even though you can easily buy a 1TB SD card for your current Switch. So, in all honesty, it’s just a Switch with a bigger screen. At least on a Steam Deck you can play an order of magnitude more games on it, with -much- better variety.
I have an Ally, which is running Windows, which does run Destiny 2 and Fortnite and League and whatever else the steamdeck doesn’t because of rootkit anticheat.
So I’ll restate: you can run almost anything that doesn’t need malware to allow you to connect to their servers.
We regularly play the Wee version of Italian plumber and friends kart racing on the deck. Docked to tv, 4 controllers (Xbox one, ps4, stadia, steam). Really a magnificent machine. For the next version i hope they improve upon the docked experience.
I dispise how the switch will only work with controllers that have received Nintendo’s blessing. The switch just uses bluetooth, so why can’t I use my wii u and wii controllers that I already own with my switch? Oh right, because Nintendo need more money.
The only thing I still buy from Nintendo is hanafuda. They got some pretty good quality, playable stuff. I guess their shogi equipment isn’t bad either.
Well, there also seem to be credible leaks that it’ll have some sort of duel screen system, potentially functioning like the DS. It’s probably going to be more than just a bigger switch.
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Steam Deck or literally any other portable PC over whatever the hell Nintendo regurgitates next.
Not remotely comparable, but sure, if you are like many here already a hobbyist PC gamer, you probably rather want a Steam Deck.
Handheld game systems of a similar size that play mostly the same games seem pretty comparable to me.
“Mostly the same games” except for all the Nintendo IP. Most folks aren’t pirating games I’d imagine so they’re aren’t really the same libraries for the vast majority of consumers.
The vast majority of Switch games are not made by Nintendo, and the vast majority of those are available on PC and Steam Deck, and typically better versions of those games at that.
Yeah, sorry, you’re not going to try have a neutral perspective about this, are you?
But humor me, why are so many Switch still being sold if other stuff is so superior? After all, like you said, they’re quite comparable and hey, Deck seems strictly superior. Right?
Because Nintendo games on Nintendo handhelds almost never go wrong and you know what parents love? Their kids shit always just working. You dont have to check the system specs, you buy the game at the store and it WORKS. You wrap the game under a tree at Xmas, you can tell grandma “Nintendo Switch” and while she might pick something shit, its going to work.
Lemmings love to act like they are enlightened for figuring out the Steam deck is better… its not for you. Its for 5 to 10 year olds.
I mean, I just said they were comparable. To say that they’re not remotely comparable is laughable. But here are a quick few reasons: one of them is in Walmart and the other is not; one appeals to children (not the least of which is the presence of a brand “moat” in Pokemon) in a way that most other electronics do not, which also translates to multiple children in a family each having their own, which drives up sales numbers; one of them already had an international distribution chain to handle territories like Australia rather than having to build one up; one came out 5 years earlier than the other, including existing in a time period where handheld gaming PCs were typically not driving comparable 3D graphics, but that changed a mere few years later with advancements from AMD in the x64 space.
This is a paradigm shift that has occurred since the Switch’s launch. Here’s an interesting thought: do you think there will still be the “port everything to the Switch” crowd for the next Switch when the game already has a PC version ready to go on the Steam Deck? Because I’ll bet they just buy that device, or a competing handheld PC, instead without having to hope that the game they want to play gets a Switch version, and that’s exactly the weakness of the console model in the modern era.
Uh, yes of course? The customers for a console and a handheld PC aren’t the same so naturally the former wants a game posted to the console?
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The differences between those two things have begun to dissolve very quickly in the past 5 or so years, and that’s both why they’re very comparable and why so many people are seeing the writing on the wall for consoles.
They’re keeping the layout and “adding more storage”, even though you can easily buy a 1TB SD card for your current Switch. So, in all honesty, it’s just a Switch with a bigger screen. At least on a Steam Deck you can play an order of magnitude more games on it, with -much- better variety.
And the games actually go on sale
And it’ll play nearly every video game made since the invention of video games, which is a huge win.
Want to play Diablo? Sure, no problem. Destiny 2? Yep, that’s fine. Italian Plumber and Friends Kart Racing? Why yes, that works great.
And yeah, don’t have to support a company that hates you only slightly more than it hates people playing their older games.
Several things in your list come with an asterisk, to be fair.
Teach me how to get d2 running on steamdeck
Fair, I brainfarted on that one.
I have an Ally, which is running Windows, which does run Destiny 2 and Fortnite and League and whatever else the steamdeck doesn’t because of rootkit anticheat.
So I’ll restate: you can run almost anything that doesn’t need malware to allow you to connect to their servers.
Ahh damn I got my hopes up I thought there was a legit workaround without windows
D2 and Fortnite are keeping me on windows instead of something like Bazzite, so I’m right there with you.
The annoying thing is that battleeye does exist for Linux, but the devs would have to implement it and they’re just… not.
You install what windows or better yet…
Don’t play D2
You install Windows on it.
We regularly play the Wee version of Italian plumber and friends kart racing on the deck. Docked to tv, 4 controllers (Xbox one, ps4, stadia, steam). Really a magnificent machine. For the next version i hope they improve upon the docked experience.
I dispise how the switch will only work with controllers that have received Nintendo’s blessing. The switch just uses bluetooth, so why can’t I use my wii u and wii controllers that I already own with my switch? Oh right, because Nintendo need more money.
And I can refund the game if I don’t like it. And I can see reviews of the game by those who have been vetted as having bought it.
And you’re not supporting a godawful abusive company such as Nintendo.
The only thing I still buy from Nintendo is hanafuda. They got some pretty good quality, playable stuff. I guess their shogi equipment isn’t bad either.
Video games though? Nope, not anymore.
Well, there also seem to be credible leaks that it’ll have some sort of duel screen system, potentially functioning like the DS. It’s probably going to be more than just a bigger switch.
I can also play over a decades worth of games from my library that saved my saves. And there’s no monthly cost.
By this metric, the wii is better than the switch since it can backup saves without a subscription or internet connection.