The people who care enough to complain are also largely the ones who keep buying it, so they train companies to realize that complaining is something that can be ignored because it’s all bark and no bite.
They’ll probably think we didn’t have enough DLCs and microtransactions to make people happy, and out DRM needs to be more intrusive to improve our sales.
I have basically been addicted to CoD for the past couple of years, but recently finally cracked and got annoyed enough that I don’t play nearly as often, or nearly as long anymore. Expensive and overly monetized, absolutely, but there are so many other issues. This is my way-too-long rant that I always go on about CoD:
Camo that is always intentionally very dark so that people will buy it, and then it will get nerfed once sales die down
Same with OP weapon blueprints-- sell the new OP blueprint, then nerf it eventually, and then take the PR stance of claiming that you listen to fan feedback.
Feeling like I’m playing Pokémon with all the swords and shields… I hate shields. Shields making someone practically invincible on almost half of their body, and them having zero movement penalty when they are on someone’s back is absolute horseshit. Swords, where people can run faster because it’s a light weapon, and you can have the Double Time perk to move even faster, so that they can just rush you and slap you with an instant kill is also absolute horseshit. I DO love sticking a shield person with Thermite, but so many other things should work against them and they just don’t.
The game crashing, and crashing often. Which for MWII was only fixed in the last couple of months, in my experience.
The incredibly annoying “Restart Game” prompt when you load up CoD, it downloads the stupid store bullshit, and then the game needs to be restarted before you can continue
The stupid UI. Let me get to Quick Play, IDK, quickly, maybe? I should not have to click through a million stupid tiles just to get to Quick Play
Oh, and stop fucking changing my playlist filter to include some random game mode every now and then. If I have my filter set to just TDM, don’t you damn dare any other mode onto that filter.
Night maps. Fuck night maps. MWII has one night map, and there’s zero options in these games to filter out night maps or any other map you may despise (like Border Crossing).
Despite all of this (and so, so much more) I still have 600+ hours into MWII alone, but the more I play it now, the more I find I just get angry at how shitty the entire experience actually is. The parts of it that are fun and addicting are not worth all the other bullshit. I do not intend to purchase MWIII.
Feeling like I’m playing Pokémon with all the swords and shields… I hate shields. Shields making someone practically invincible on almost half of their body, and them having zero movement penalty when they are on someone’s back is absolute horseshit. Swords, where people can run faster because it’s a light weapon, and you can have the Double Time perk to move even faster, so that they can just rush you and slap you with an instant kill is also absolute horseshit. I DO love sticking a shield person with Thermite, but so many other things should work against them and they just don’t.
Wait, I don’t play CoD. Can you clarify what you mean by swords and shields? Shields I can imagine being some sort of body armor, but are people carrying around steel swords like they’re medieval knights in a game titled “Modern Warfare”?
I don’t play COD all that much, but I was one of the crowd who made my purchase of MWII in part because it was supposedly going to stick around for 2 years. I feel slighted that they had nearly complete versions of nostalgic maps in Warzone only to never release them in regular multiplayer and instead hold them for MWIII. I refuse to support this bait by spending on COD any further.
If you’re sick of massive AAA developers running cash grabs, my suggestion is stop patronizing their games until they get their sh*t together. An excellent alternative if you’re looking for a fun FPS game is Battle-Bit Remastered. I personally love this game, and there is a long running joke that the three guys that made this basically shat on the AAA developer world when they released a full featured FPS for $15 that is enjoyable and has 0 micro transactions.
I totally respect what they’ve done, and I admittedly am not a Call of Duty player, but Roblox graphics are an instant turn off for me and I really don’t think the general CoD player base is going to be drawn in by it either. If there was a graphics pack that made it look modern and zero percent like Roblox I might be able to get into it, but not as it is.
I’ve played some surprisingly good games with untextured polygons.
Star Fox
Race the Sun
Carrier Command 2
That’s not to say that you couldn’t take the same games and make a flashier version that I wouldn’t like more, but I do kind of think that it forces the developers not to use glitz as a crutch. Like, if you’re going to make a game with untextured polygons and sell it, you are going to have to have solid gameplay.
Another benefit is that it’s easier to revise a game if you haven’t committed a lot of expensive assets into particular game design decisions. I think that a long, iterative development process with gameplay revisions is probably a good thing for gameplay.
I kind of wish that one could more-frequently get commercial “HD” DLC for small-budget games, like indie pixel-art games. I think that low-res pixel art is a good way to reduce asset costs, let the player’s brain fill in a lot of the detail, but if a game does turn out to be successful and I like it, I’d like to be able to also get a more-detailed version. That way, I’m only paying for assets on games with good gameplay.
I’ve seen a small handful of games do that, but it’s definitely not the norm.
I’m itching for a good single player arcade-y/soldier-y FPS. Anyone have a suggestion? Haven’t played CoD (nor BF for that matter) since the one with the No Russian level.
3 days late but, seconded on battlebit! expecially for that arcade feel. it’s all the best parts of battlefield in a package that can run on basically any modern hardware.
I tried the beta a couple weeks ago. Right off the bat, I got windows firewall popups when launching the client which crashed the client. And it’s slow to launch too. The menus are terrible. It actually launches a 2nd client from the first one, which prompted another Windows firewall popup which crashed it again, so I had to go through launching both clients again before it actually got around to launching the actual game (I don’t think that one actually prompted firewall again).
The gameplay was ok. It was pretty smooth and I saw no obvious bugs or crashes. There were some balance problems, but it is a beta so I wrote those off. At the same time, nothing really stood out to me as new, novel, or innovative. I’m assuming this is what the article means by it feeling like a DLC of the last game. I didn’t play the last one but I can see it not being any different. Maybe just new maps. Those kinds of things used to be released for free in games (and many games still do) in order to keep the game alive and retain players so they keep paying those microtransactions.
The biggest problem I had was that I noticed some guns are unlocked just by playing the game. But some guns specifically said they had to be unlocked in the shop. Literally pay to win weapons. I’ve played CoD games in the past with microtransactions and they always only sold cosmetics so I didn’t mind, but weapons now? That’s a no from me dawg.
Lastly, I prefer playing games with friends. But due to the nature of randomized respawns in most of the game modes, you don’t really experience coordinated gameplay. You could play battle royale but I’m over that now. So I’m back on OW2 instead. While it has stupid expensive skins that used to be free, at least it’s not pay to win, and I can enjoy actual team play.
I had the feeling that every CoD since MW was more like a DLC with some new features rather than a fully fledged new game. Unfortunately Battlefield went a similiar route.
I mean if it would be 30 € or you could either purchase a full price standalone or an expansion at half price of your existing standalone game it would be fine.
On the issue of weapons only being unlock-able in the shop, I think that may have been some kind of UI bug in the beta. When I played with my friends, they complained when they saw the “Unlocked in Shop” tag on certain guns. When I looked at them on my end, they had regular level requirements. None of us pre-ordered anything or purchased anything. When I reached the required level in the beta, I unlocked the gun that my friends indicated was “Shop Only”
Okay I’m seeing tons of comments from people about Battle Bit, but is there something good like it that features more realistic graphics? No disrespect to that game but the Roblox style instantly kills it for me.
Battlefield 1 is solid and still has decent NA community servers. Semi modern, but not much of a cash grab with good stories and a fun multiplayer experience. Especially the naval battles (imo!)
I’ll give it a shot. I admittedly have never played a single BF game since BF Vietnam, lol, and I somehow own on PC like 7 BF games including BF1. So I’m going to take your advice and give it a shot!
It’s kind of crazy how it’s really just CoD, Halo, and battlefield after all these years. There’s some more mil-sim type shooters out there that are great, insurgency, hell let loose, squad, for example. It doesn’t seem like there’s much out there though in terms of the less serious team death match shooters. The only other one I can think of is maybe titan fall.
Will probably get down voted to heck, but Battle Field 2042 goes on sale pretty regularly and is a good bit of fun since they fixed a lot of the issues from it’s atrocious launch.
I’ve had it on my wishlist, but I hesitate to buy anything from BF or CoD only for it to be replaced a year later and no one to play with. I mean, CSGo/CS2 has been going strong for years and in that time there have been like a dozen of each of the other franchises released.
Heh. I was just discussing this with a friend 2 days ago. We surmised that they would half ass it even more than MW2 because this one was already half assed and still sold well, and Battlefield, which is basically their only competitor, is in shambles right now (and was in a an even more sorry state around when they probably started working on MW3).
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I’m old. I miss the WW2 CODs.
World at War remains my favorite in the series. The more modern ones and futuristic 3D maneuvering ones were never my cup of tea
Thankfully this is the first COD I’ve bought in like 4+ years. Still shameful
The people who care enough to complain are also largely the ones who keep buying it, so they train companies to realize that complaining is something that can be ignored because it’s all bark and no bite.
The sales figures of this might still be ok, but the next might be poorer, but that won’t be blamed on this.
They’ll probably think we didn’t have enough DLCs and microtransactions to make people happy, and out DRM needs to be more intrusive to improve our sales.
wow, just like a certain game that launched twelve years ago, called “Modern Warfare 3”
I have basically been addicted to CoD for the past couple of years, but recently finally cracked and got annoyed enough that I don’t play nearly as often, or nearly as long anymore. Expensive and overly monetized, absolutely, but there are so many other issues. This is my way-too-long rant that I always go on about CoD:
Camo that is always intentionally very dark so that people will buy it, and then it will get nerfed once sales die down
Same with OP weapon blueprints-- sell the new OP blueprint, then nerf it eventually, and then take the PR stance of claiming that you listen to fan feedback.
Feeling like I’m playing Pokémon with all the swords and shields… I hate shields. Shields making someone practically invincible on almost half of their body, and them having zero movement penalty when they are on someone’s back is absolute horseshit. Swords, where people can run faster because it’s a light weapon, and you can have the Double Time perk to move even faster, so that they can just rush you and slap you with an instant kill is also absolute horseshit. I DO love sticking a shield person with Thermite, but so many other things should work against them and they just don’t.
The game crashing, and crashing often. Which for MWII was only fixed in the last couple of months, in my experience.
The incredibly annoying “Restart Game” prompt when you load up CoD, it downloads the stupid store bullshit, and then the game needs to be restarted before you can continue
The stupid UI. Let me get to Quick Play, IDK, quickly, maybe? I should not have to click through a million stupid tiles just to get to Quick Play
Oh, and stop fucking changing my playlist filter to include some random game mode every now and then. If I have my filter set to just TDM, don’t you damn dare any other mode onto that filter.
Night maps. Fuck night maps. MWII has one night map, and there’s zero options in these games to filter out night maps or any other map you may despise (like Border Crossing).
Despite all of this (and so, so much more) I still have 600+ hours into MWII alone, but the more I play it now, the more I find I just get angry at how shitty the entire experience actually is. The parts of it that are fun and addicting are not worth all the other bullshit. I do not intend to purchase MWIII.
Wait, I don’t play CoD. Can you clarify what you mean by swords and shields? Shields I can imagine being some sort of body armor, but are people carrying around steel swords like they’re medieval knights in a game titled “Modern Warfare”?
shields are the police shields which completely block every single shot on it, and yea you can literally run around with a katana
I don’t play COD all that much, but I was one of the crowd who made my purchase of MWII in part because it was supposedly going to stick around for 2 years. I feel slighted that they had nearly complete versions of nostalgic maps in Warzone only to never release them in regular multiplayer and instead hold them for MWIII. I refuse to support this bait by spending on COD any further.
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I remember the days of the OG MW3, some people mockingly calling it Modern Warfare 2.5
I guess it will be a similar situation, or the same, all over again, maybe it already is
If you’re sick of massive AAA developers running cash grabs, my suggestion is stop patronizing their games until they get their sh*t together. An excellent alternative if you’re looking for a fun FPS game is Battle-Bit Remastered. I personally love this game, and there is a long running joke that the three guys that made this basically shat on the AAA developer world when they released a full featured FPS for $15 that is enjoyable and has 0 micro transactions.
It’s funny because it’s true.
I totally respect what they’ve done, and I admittedly am not a Call of Duty player, but Roblox graphics are an instant turn off for me and I really don’t think the general CoD player base is going to be drawn in by it either. If there was a graphics pack that made it look modern and zero percent like Roblox I might be able to get into it, but not as it is.
I’ve played some surprisingly good games with untextured polygons.
Star Fox
Race the Sun
Carrier Command 2
That’s not to say that you couldn’t take the same games and make a flashier version that I wouldn’t like more, but I do kind of think that it forces the developers not to use glitz as a crutch. Like, if you’re going to make a game with untextured polygons and sell it, you are going to have to have solid gameplay.
Another benefit is that it’s easier to revise a game if you haven’t committed a lot of expensive assets into particular game design decisions. I think that a long, iterative development process with gameplay revisions is probably a good thing for gameplay.
I kind of wish that one could more-frequently get commercial “HD” DLC for small-budget games, like indie pixel-art games. I think that low-res pixel art is a good way to reduce asset costs, let the player’s brain fill in a lot of the detail, but if a game does turn out to be successful and I like it, I’d like to be able to also get a more-detailed version. That way, I’m only paying for assets on games with good gameplay.
I’ve seen a small handful of games do that, but it’s definitely not the norm.
Maybe AI upscaling will help.
I’m itching for a good single player arcade-y/soldier-y FPS. Anyone have a suggestion? Haven’t played CoD (nor BF for that matter) since the one with the No Russian level.
Trepang2. It’s the spiritual successor to FEAR.
Nice, I loved FEAR 1 and 2, thanks!
3 days late but, seconded on battlebit! expecially for that arcade feel. it’s all the best parts of battlefield in a package that can run on basically any modern hardware.
Yep this one’s in my wishlist, I’ll get it next time it’s on sale!
BattleBit, if you want a BFBC2 multiplayer feeling!
Insurgency: Sandstorm has a very solid base even if it has been mismanaged of late.
I tried the beta a couple weeks ago. Right off the bat, I got windows firewall popups when launching the client which crashed the client. And it’s slow to launch too. The menus are terrible. It actually launches a 2nd client from the first one, which prompted another Windows firewall popup which crashed it again, so I had to go through launching both clients again before it actually got around to launching the actual game (I don’t think that one actually prompted firewall again).
The gameplay was ok. It was pretty smooth and I saw no obvious bugs or crashes. There were some balance problems, but it is a beta so I wrote those off. At the same time, nothing really stood out to me as new, novel, or innovative. I’m assuming this is what the article means by it feeling like a DLC of the last game. I didn’t play the last one but I can see it not being any different. Maybe just new maps. Those kinds of things used to be released for free in games (and many games still do) in order to keep the game alive and retain players so they keep paying those microtransactions.
The biggest problem I had was that I noticed some guns are unlocked just by playing the game. But some guns specifically said they had to be unlocked in the shop. Literally pay to win weapons. I’ve played CoD games in the past with microtransactions and they always only sold cosmetics so I didn’t mind, but weapons now? That’s a no from me dawg.
Lastly, I prefer playing games with friends. But due to the nature of randomized respawns in most of the game modes, you don’t really experience coordinated gameplay. You could play battle royale but I’m over that now. So I’m back on OW2 instead. While it has stupid expensive skins that used to be free, at least it’s not pay to win, and I can enjoy actual team play.
I had the feeling that every CoD since MW was more like a DLC with some new features rather than a fully fledged new game. Unfortunately Battlefield went a similiar route.
I mean if it would be 30 € or you could either purchase a full price standalone or an expansion at half price of your existing standalone game it would be fine.
On the issue of weapons only being unlock-able in the shop, I think that may have been some kind of UI bug in the beta. When I played with my friends, they complained when they saw the “Unlocked in Shop” tag on certain guns. When I looked at them on my end, they had regular level requirements. None of us pre-ordered anything or purchased anything. When I reached the required level in the beta, I unlocked the gun that my friends indicated was “Shop Only”
Oh that’s weird.
If you bought horse armor back in the day, you directly caused this problem.
Okay I’m seeing tons of comments from people about Battle Bit, but is there something good like it that features more realistic graphics? No disrespect to that game but the Roblox style instantly kills it for me.
Battlefield 1 is solid and still has decent NA community servers. Semi modern, but not much of a cash grab with good stories and a fun multiplayer experience. Especially the naval battles (imo!)
I have 1942, Vietnam, 2, 3, 4, 1, and 5 (I Believe that’s release order), is BF1 a better choice than 5 to try out?
I mean, I’m biased, but I refunded BFV and put well over 500 hours into BF1, haha. It feels better than V imo.
I’ll give it a shot. I admittedly have never played a single BF game since BF Vietnam, lol, and I somehow own on PC like 7 BF games including BF1. So I’m going to take your advice and give it a shot!
It’s kind of crazy how it’s really just CoD, Halo, and battlefield after all these years. There’s some more mil-sim type shooters out there that are great, insurgency, hell let loose, squad, for example. It doesn’t seem like there’s much out there though in terms of the less serious team death match shooters. The only other one I can think of is maybe titan fall.
Will probably get down voted to heck, but Battle Field 2042 goes on sale pretty regularly and is a good bit of fun since they fixed a lot of the issues from it’s atrocious launch.
I’ve had it on my wishlist, but I hesitate to buy anything from BF or CoD only for it to be replaced a year later and no one to play with. I mean, CSGo/CS2 has been going strong for years and in that time there have been like a dozen of each of the other franchises released.
They need to recoup those 70 billions dollars somehow.
Microsoft just closed the purchase. They had no hand in this. Weird take. This was all Activision
If you pay that without waiting for reviews then it is a well deserved price.
Heh. I was just discussing this with a friend 2 days ago. We surmised that they would half ass it even more than MW2 because this one was already half assed and still sold well, and Battlefield, which is basically their only competitor, is in shambles right now (and was in a an even more sorry state around when they probably started working on MW3).
Sounds like we were mostly correct