I dont really use windows often outside of my work devices these days, but even if I did I wouldnt use edge as a primary browser based on how things rolled with IE6 and active X.
Yeah yeah youre a new friendlier Microsoft, webstandards and html5 are more locked in, and your browser is a chrome fork, and you “<3 Linux”. I remember what you are and how you locked down the web when you had a chance. Personally I dont use chrome for the same reason given the direction google has been heading.
But to answer “why not Edge?”: because you spent the better part of the last few decades sucking and amoral companies dont deserve the benefit of good faith.
Fair enough. I worked at Facebook, Google, then LinkedIn, so I guess all the passion got drained from me until I quit and started working on my own product.
(LinkedIn was actually pretty good. I was working on an internal tool though.)
Honestly, fair point to you as well. I’ve been lucky enough to work at a company that does at least try to care about things. I imagine if these soul-sucking tasks were an everyday thing, I’d probably tone down the ol’ moral compass a bit just to get through.
The containers UI is damn near unusable, they’ve squeezed so many of those “offers” into the tiny addon manager popup.
I wish Mozilla had management who understood their userbase. But instead they keep pulling this crap which only makes me (and likely most other power users) less likely to use Mozilla branded products.
LibreWolf. I don’t need to see “sponsored shortcuts”, recommended bullshit, abd Mozilla VPN ads when I open my browser. Firefox is by far superior to Chromium based alternatives but let’s not pretend Mozilla are saints when it comes to annoying bullshit in their browser.
I am awaiting my new SSD (already got 2 in there lmao) to dual boot into Linux Mint (though I suspect I won’t remain dual booted for long at current trajectory.
I swear Microsoft, particularly the Windows and Edge divisions, have consultants on retainer directly from Hell - specialists in making things absolutely infuriating for no particularly good reason.
i don’t trust chrome OR whatever browser microsoft wants me to use.
also to say i ‘trust’ firefox would also be an overstatement, but you could fairly describe it as, “I distrust firefox less” than either google or microsoft.
Ungoogled Chromium requires so much work to be usable, on top of having no built-in updater. That’s a really bad recommendation. Have you looked at the steps to even install widevine? You even have to open up chrome flags to manually install an addon that lets you install add-ons.
I’m also greatly concerned by the Chromium engine supremacy on the Internet.
There are interesting privacy-focused Chromium-based browsers but I still refuse to use them. Google shouldn’t have a near-monopoly on web rendering engines and on web “standards”. Firefox is the only proper competition I can get behind.
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I dont really use windows often outside of my work devices these days, but even if I did I wouldnt use edge as a primary browser based on how things rolled with IE6 and active X.
Yeah yeah youre a new friendlier Microsoft, webstandards and html5 are more locked in, and your browser is a chrome fork, and you “<3 Linux”. I remember what you are and how you locked down the web when you had a chance. Personally I dont use chrome for the same reason given the direction google has been heading.
But to answer “why not Edge?”: because you spent the better part of the last few decades sucking and amoral companies dont deserve the benefit of good faith.
Desperate ex girlfriend, Microsoft.
Who wants to use any product or service this desperate to try and keep you.
Somewhere there is a designer and or an engineer that was forced to make that stupid thing and they hated every minute of it.
Nah, Microsoft devs are there for the money, not the passion, just like all the other big tech companies. They got paid, so they don’t care.
I mean, I’m a dev at a big company, and I would definitely feel gross about implementing this.
I’d still do it, cause I gotta pay my bills somehow, but I definitely wouldn’t enjoy it.
Fair enough. I worked at Facebook, Google, then LinkedIn, so I guess all the passion got drained from me until I quit and started working on my own product.
(LinkedIn was actually pretty good. I was working on an internal tool though.)
Honestly, fair point to you as well. I’ve been lucky enough to work at a company that does at least try to care about things. I imagine if these soul-sucking tasks were an everyday thing, I’d probably tone down the ol’ moral compass a bit just to get through.
Off topic but I love that people still remember Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Tad Ghostal.
That’s pretty likely, but there are plenty of crappy developers who are proud working on stuff that makes peoples’ lives shittier.
Honest to god, the browser that wins is the one with the least bullshit popping up in my face when I open it
Firefox then?
Yup.
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The containers UI is damn near unusable, they’ve squeezed so many of those “offers” into the tiny addon manager popup.
I wish Mozilla had management who understood their userbase. But instead they keep pulling this crap which only makes me (and likely most other power users) less likely to use Mozilla branded products.
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LibreWolf. I don’t need to see “sponsored shortcuts”, recommended bullshit, abd Mozilla VPN ads when I open my browser. Firefox is by far superior to Chromium based alternatives but let’s not pretend Mozilla are saints when it comes to annoying bullshit in their browser.
These things aren’t mutally exclusive. Edge sucks even on this level
That would probably be GNOME Web, because it literally does not pop up anything. Not on the first launch, not on any other launch.
But that’s really only helpful if you’re on Gnome, so Firefox, more likely.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Google Chrome download in Microsoft’s Edge web browser?
How many times will the company try to steer me away?
The pop-ups are nearly two years old, and the injected ads are from earlier this year.
I cannot believe how many stories we’ve written about the shit Microsoft has pulled to steer you away from Chrome.
Even today, the company still won’t always respect your choice of default browser, though that may finally be changing in the EU.
Sadly the poll doesn’t include an “I’m boycotting Edge because you don’t respect me as a user” option.
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I am awaiting my new SSD (already got 2 in there lmao) to dual boot into Linux Mint (though I suspect I won’t remain dual booted for long at current trajectory.
I swear Microsoft, particularly the Windows and Edge divisions, have consultants on retainer directly from Hell - specialists in making things absolutely infuriating for no particularly good reason.
I always bypass ever launching Edge by installing with
winget install mozilla.firefoxOr just install Linux.
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last time i removed edge on win11 my svg files and the open with menu broke. It’s ok to remove on win10 tho
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i used the aveyo script on a fresh win 11 install (since it’s compatible eith MSER/MSEdgeRedirect)
Could you elaborate on the custom installer?
i don’t trust chrome OR whatever browser microsoft wants me to use.
also to say i ‘trust’ firefox would also be an overstatement, but you could fairly describe it as, “I distrust firefox less” than either google or microsoft.
Try any of the fantastic Firefox forks then
FireDragon, Librewolf etc.
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Ungoogled Chromium requires so much work to be usable, on top of having no built-in updater. That’s a really bad recommendation. Have you looked at the steps to even install widevine? You even have to open up chrome flags to manually install an addon that lets you install add-ons.
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The real crime here is downloading Chrome.
Firefox, for privacy protection.
Firefox is great, but :has (a CSS selector supported by WebKit but not Gecko) is starting to get a lot more popular.
Good?
I’m also greatly concerned by the Chromium engine supremacy on the Internet.
There are interesting privacy-focused Chromium-based browsers but I still refuse to use them. Google shouldn’t have a near-monopoly on web rendering engines and on web “standards”. Firefox is the only proper competition I can get behind.
The article doesn’t count the popups you get when you try to change your default browser