It’s possible and FWIW, that would be a damn fine game to be remembered for. RDR2 was phenomenal and made even better by the fact that online never really caught on so it could just exist as its own thing, unlike GTA V which is also a great game but also inseparable from GTO:O at this point that no one even bothers talking about the great single player of the game
I really tried to enjoy RDR2. It’s got some great qualities, and the acting, writing, and cutscenes are phenomenal. But… The gameplay… I’m all for slowburn walking simulator type games (e.g. I loved Detroit Become Human, among others).
But with RDR2, the world is so massive and yet there was no sense of excitement when finding stuff. You get just about all your upgrades fairly early in the game. There’s no sense of character gameplay progression. And after just a few hours of traveling around, it felt like I quickly had seen all the random event variations on the roads/trails (e.g. stop bandits hijacking a wagon, robberies, etc). I don’t know, it just felt like a hyper realistic GTA5: Western, but without all the plethora of goofy shenanigans that game has.
You make some very good points. I loved RDR2, but felt like two-thirds of the way through the game it became main story and nothing else. I thought the side quest content was really good, but there needed to be a lot more of it. The “random” events were awesome, but when they were eventually all completed, it made the world feel somewhat empty in comparison. That said, it’s still one of my favorite games. I’m on a playthrough right now where I mostly just mess around in the world. I like how slow-paced it is. You can just do whatever. Eat, drink, fish, sleep, fight, hunt, cook, ride, shoot… There’s no end to the number of personal side quests you can make up.
I dont know, I have heard valid complaints but the western setting doesnt allow for much other than bandit themed random encounters and favours. There are other more out there ones that hint to larger things like time travel etc.
I to have tried getting into it without success. Maybe I will be able to return to it someday.
A similar thing happened with Cyberpunk. I revisited it after stopping just after the first act and had the most fun I have had with a game in a long time.
I’ve thought about pirating it too. Seeing as I bought the game years ago, but I lost my email account associated with the 3rd party login, thus not allowing me to play the game.
I never really played it. I started to, but then life happened lol. But I thought I’d go back and play it… nope, can’t remember my password and can’t recover my email.
If you had a DRM-free version on a CD and you lost that CD, would you just pirate that game?
Not trying to judge or anything (I’ve sailed the seas myself), just genuinely curious
Yes since i’ve already purchased it once. Unless there is a good steam discount. And maybe of it’s truly a masterpiece then I would buy it again at full price.
Probably. The dev has already made the sale. The usual argument from pirates that will never be settled “I was never going to buy it anyway so they lost no money”. But this way they’ve already made the sale. No harm no foul. With the receipts to back it up.
Nintendo doesn’t report digital sales of their games… so RDR2 has sold more than Mario kart 8 physical sales. The impressive part is that it’s still likely so far behind Mario kart 8’s total sales count.
I am a bit surprised of the bad reporting in this article to not realize that distinction
I want to finish it some day but I also kind of get sick of it quickly whenever I try to play it for extended periods and actually do main story missions.
Fucking around in the open world and fishing and hunting and all that is great though.
The progression of Dutch’s mental state, the condition of the gang, and Arthur’s changing attitudes towards life are really well written. The story is long but it’s wonderfully done.
I was the same way. I suggest you do finish it though, especially if you’ve done some of the side missions along the way. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the way they work actions you made, missions you did, and choices you took into the end is really cool and it made me get all verklempt.
Is there a mod for this that cuts out all the fiddliness and just lets you do the fun stuff? I got maybe 10h into it but it was still teaching me new controls and mechanics… Idgaf about crafting, funding the camp and horse husbandry, I just want to ride around shooting bad hombres and do the story like rdr1… Is this just not the game for me?
I made it to the end since it was one of the only games I had at the time. Felt like the entire game was a riding horses and talking simulator. It’s so tiring going through the main story. Was ultimately disappointed in the end. Felt like they wanted to make a movie more than a game.
This is my sentiment with all recent Rockstar games.
Fantastic settings, great stories, but so much bloat. It’s cool that there’s so much stuff to do, but all the interruptions from actually playing the game are so tiresome.
This was kinda me too, hence me stopped play it after some 20h in, and let it rest for half a year… recently I decided to give it another go, and when you get the hang of the huge amount of controls in this game, ie; when you can play “smooth” with the controls and the animations that come with them different button clicks, it’s such a game changer (at least for me).
Not gonna lie, it took me about 30-40 hours to get comfortable and be productive/effective with how to play this game (these kind of games aren’t my goto though, I’m more of a Tetris guy, haha)
Interesting to know though. It sounds bananas in a way though doesn’t it… Like a workweek of training to get good enough to just functionally play a game seems crazy to me, (no judgement!)
Agree. But again, I’m not used to these kind of games so the average player might get the hang of it in a couple of hours… (plus, the first 20:ish hours I mostly just took it all in, the views, the atmosphere of it, like a digital walk in the nature… time just went by)
I rage quit this game after a bunch of hours. Pretty annoying how pretty much every action gets a bounty put on you and then you’re bankrupted trying to pay it off so you can just get back to playing the fucking game without being harassed by every NPC.
I was really, really late into this game.
Now, 70h in, I’m like “this is a very good game, dude!”. (makes my cheap ass, waiting for it to go to sale seem… well, I am poor, but I know I wouldn’t have been disappointed, paying full price for it, and I’m not even near completing it, yet…)
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Rockstar probably: “Well we just can’t afford to do a 60fps patch with these sales numbers…”
(I know it’s because they are greedy shits and just want to do a HD version or something on PS6.)
With all the shit happening with the production of GTA6 there is a decent chance RDR2 will be remembered as Rockstar’s last good game.
It’s possible and FWIW, that would be a damn fine game to be remembered for. RDR2 was phenomenal and made even better by the fact that online never really caught on so it could just exist as its own thing, unlike GTA V which is also a great game but also inseparable from GTO:O at this point that no one even bothers talking about the great single player of the game
Given the way it’s going for them, it’s very likely actually. But RDR2 is a really good game and it’d be hard to reach that level again.
I really tried to enjoy RDR2. It’s got some great qualities, and the acting, writing, and cutscenes are phenomenal. But… The gameplay… I’m all for slowburn walking simulator type games (e.g. I loved Detroit Become Human, among others).
But with RDR2, the world is so massive and yet there was no sense of excitement when finding stuff. You get just about all your upgrades fairly early in the game. There’s no sense of character gameplay progression. And after just a few hours of traveling around, it felt like I quickly had seen all the random event variations on the roads/trails (e.g. stop bandits hijacking a wagon, robberies, etc). I don’t know, it just felt like a hyper realistic GTA5: Western, but without all the plethora of goofy shenanigans that game has.
You make some very good points. I loved RDR2, but felt like two-thirds of the way through the game it became main story and nothing else. I thought the side quest content was really good, but there needed to be a lot more of it. The “random” events were awesome, but when they were eventually all completed, it made the world feel somewhat empty in comparison. That said, it’s still one of my favorite games. I’m on a playthrough right now where I mostly just mess around in the world. I like how slow-paced it is. You can just do whatever. Eat, drink, fish, sleep, fight, hunt, cook, ride, shoot… There’s no end to the number of personal side quests you can make up.
I dont know, I have heard valid complaints but the western setting doesnt allow for much other than bandit themed random encounters and favours. There are other more out there ones that hint to larger things like time travel etc.
I to have tried getting into it without success. Maybe I will be able to return to it someday.
A similar thing happened with Cyberpunk. I revisited it after stopping just after the first act and had the most fun I have had with a game in a long time.
Thinking about pirating it, but I have other games in my pirate list
I’ve thought about pirating it too. Seeing as I bought the game years ago, but I lost my email account associated with the 3rd party login, thus not allowing me to play the game.
I never really played it. I started to, but then life happened lol. But I thought I’d go back and play it… nope, can’t remember my password and can’t recover my email.
If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing
If you had a DRM-free version on a CD and you lost that CD, would you just pirate that game? Not trying to judge or anything (I’ve sailed the seas myself), just genuinely curious
Yes since i’ve already purchased it once. Unless there is a good steam discount. And maybe of it’s truly a masterpiece then I would buy it again at full price.
Yes
If it was a DRM Free version on a CD, I would probably have a backup on my HDD
Probably. The dev has already made the sale. The usual argument from pirates that will never be settled “I was never going to buy it anyway so they lost no money”. But this way they’ve already made the sale. No harm no foul. With the receipts to back it up.
Nintendo doesn’t report digital sales of their games… so RDR2 has sold more than Mario kart 8 physical sales. The impressive part is that it’s still likely so far behind Mario kart 8’s total sales count.
I am a bit surprised of the bad reporting in this article to not realize that distinction
Why should we care about this particular horse/kart race?
I want to finish it some day but I also kind of get sick of it quickly whenever I try to play it for extended periods and actually do main story missions.
Fucking around in the open world and fishing and hunting and all that is great though.
The progression of Dutch’s mental state, the condition of the gang, and Arthur’s changing attitudes towards life are really well written. The story is long but it’s wonderfully done.
I was the same way. I suggest you do finish it though, especially if you’ve done some of the side missions along the way. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the way they work actions you made, missions you did, and choices you took into the end is really cool and it made me get all verklempt.
Soooo many cutscenes
Is there a mod for this that cuts out all the fiddliness and just lets you do the fun stuff? I got maybe 10h into it but it was still teaching me new controls and mechanics… Idgaf about crafting, funding the camp and horse husbandry, I just want to ride around shooting bad hombres and do the story like rdr1… Is this just not the game for me?
You can finish the game without crafting or funding the camp. You’re just locking yourself out of useful items and upgrades.
I made it to the end since it was one of the only games I had at the time. Felt like the entire game was a riding horses and talking simulator. It’s so tiring going through the main story. Was ultimately disappointed in the end. Felt like they wanted to make a movie more than a game.
I do love a western though
That’s why I enjoyed it. I have a thing for borderline interactive movie games because I love movies.
You don’t have to do any of that other stuff. Is ancillary. The game will reward you for it, but it’s completely unnecessary.
This is my sentiment with all recent Rockstar games.
Fantastic settings, great stories, but so much bloat. It’s cool that there’s so much stuff to do, but all the interruptions from actually playing the game are so tiresome.
This was kinda me too, hence me stopped play it after some 20h in, and let it rest for half a year… recently I decided to give it another go, and when you get the hang of the huge amount of controls in this game, ie; when you can play “smooth” with the controls and the animations that come with them different button clicks, it’s such a game changer (at least for me). Not gonna lie, it took me about 30-40 hours to get comfortable and be productive/effective with how to play this game (these kind of games aren’t my goto though, I’m more of a Tetris guy, haha)
Interesting to know though. It sounds bananas in a way though doesn’t it… Like a workweek of training to get good enough to just functionally play a game seems crazy to me, (no judgement!)
Agree. But again, I’m not used to these kind of games so the average player might get the hang of it in a couple of hours… (plus, the first 20:ish hours I mostly just took it all in, the views, the atmosphere of it, like a digital walk in the nature… time just went by)
I rage quit this game after a bunch of hours. Pretty annoying how pretty much every action gets a bounty put on you and then you’re bankrupted trying to pay it off so you can just get back to playing the fucking game without being harassed by every NPC.
Pretty, though.
I never had that problem
My exact experience with it down to a T. Can definitely appreciate it for the technological marvel it is.
I was really, really late into this game. Now, 70h in, I’m like “this is a very good game, dude!”. (makes my cheap ass, waiting for it to go to sale seem… well, I am poor, but I know I wouldn’t have been disappointed, paying full price for it, and I’m not even near completing it, yet…)
Well deserved
I’m still wishing for a remake!
Why would you need a RDR2 remake? It hasn’t aged that much
Is that a quote? Because RDR2 was released in 2018. It doesn’t need a remake (but could have one, see Resident Evil).
RDR1 remake and an RDR3 announcement. But based on rockstar’s current track record. It will be 2035 before we see RDR3.
A remake of RDR1?
They already did an rdr1 remaster
I was thinking RDR2 but RDR1 would be cool too!
RDR2 really doesn’t need a remake. It came out in 2018, and its graphics are still pretty amazing today.