I am just ignoring them. Not playing their games even pirated.
Played the demo of Prince of Persia last year, totally liked it, price was good, saw the Ubisoft Logo (CEO tells that you don’t get to own your games, AAA games priced 70-130 €, anti consumer practices), never bought that game never played it.
Nintendo also took a red card this year from me, not another penny from my wallet.
Bonus i put in my Steam ignore list all the games that come out with price >60 €, so i wont make a mistake and buy them even on a huge sale.
I buy indie games and only AAA games full priced like BG3, Expedition 33, Elden Ring, etc… , games that they worth it and they don’t bloat you with stupid stuff. And also their companies respect the players.
BG3, E33, ER, all amazing games that don’t add live service junk, don’t require online connections, and respect the art of video games. They are all worth their price and then some, to me.
RDR is €50 full price and includes all dlcs, €30 atm in autumn sale. AAA games are priced between 60-90 these days. What do you mean it’s full AAA priced
In my head anything above ~40 eur is basically AAA pricing. Personally, I’m not going to acclimate to their new prices being double that. If it’s above 40 it basically doesn’t exist to me.
Why bother with ethics or morality? I’ve been pirating what I can half of my life now, just because I’m a poor and stingy bastard. Let people with finished mortgages and nice cars pay those companies.
There are only 3 developers I will preorder from whenever I find the game they are releasing interesting. Erin “Concerned Ape” (Stardew Valley); Bob the Bot (Survivalist); and Terry Cavanagh, the creator of VVVVVV.
They keep their games updated, they are pretty chill people, and they keep players informed during development.
For now, they are the only ones who have earned my trust.
For everything else, it’s full patientgamer mode for me. Wait until the whole game is released with a single price tag, 90% discount, no online requirements outside of multiplayer, and community fixes.
Sometimes day to day life sucks, we need to escape into games we like and look past all the privacy and annoying bullshit. But when nearly all games are this way, easy to step back and go “wait a minute…”
When (not if) enshittification takes over, I’ll pirate their shit.
I went back to sailing the high seas for games when The Sims 3 from Steam wouldn’t run on Linux no matter what I did, whilst a pirate version runs just fine.
Pirating in Linux is actually much more complicated than running the game from Steam, or from other stores via something like Lutris, because for official versions of a game there are usually scripts doing all the necessary Wine/Proton configuration, but not for the pirate versions of a game, so if it fails to run directly you have to enable logging, dig through the logs yourself and figure out which libraries need to be configured with Winetricks, which is how gaming in Linux used to work 5 years ago (and why very few people did it).
I’ve switched a few friends to Linux and whenever they have trouble running a game outside steam, I just send them this. Hasn’t failed yet. While I, like many other Linux users enjoy scrolling through logs: this is easier.
If I remember it correctly, the Dodi repack just needs some audio library configured in the Wine instance via Winetricks as a built-in library.
If using Lutris, you need to enable logging for that game, then try and run it.
After it fails to run, look at the log and near where it stops you’ll see it complain about failing to load a certain DLL (and after that lots of failing to load other DLLs as a consequence of failing to load that original DLL).
Google the name of that DLL and you’ll find which library it is part of.
From Lutris, run Winetricks for that game (it’s in a pull-down next to the “Start” button for the game) and under Winetricks “Libraries” add that library to that Wine instance as a built-in library (if that doesn’t work, download the DLL, put it in the game dir and add it as native).
If what you see in the logs is, instead of a “Couldn’t load DLL”, a “Couldn’t find function in DLL” what you have is not a missing library but instead a library version mismatch. Go to Winetricks and force the use of the native version of the library: sometimes the built-in version of a common DLL in Wine is the wrong version, and you need to force Wine to use the version of that DLL that comes with the game, i.e. the “native” version.
If all that fails, Google that game’s name together with “Linux” to see if somebody else has figured it out.
I don’t think I’ve pirated a game since 2008! Used to be if I didn’t like their price, I waited and bought on sale or used. Now that I play on PC and used games aren’t a thing anymore, I just don’t play it.
There’s a sea of games out there and If I don’t like the practices of the publisher, I skip them and move to the next. Why should I engage with their product if they don’t respect me as a customer or share my sensibilities? I’m not a hypocrite.
I pirated the RDR remaster and felt very entitled to because I bought it way back on xbox360 with the Undead Nightmare mode, but that whole DLC is broken even though they still sold it to me on the Xbox store. So I pirated to new remaster and when I went to play Undead Nightmare, it’s still broken lol
The hell does “piracy against big companies” even mean?
Man, pirate what you can’t afford if you must, just… you know, be honest about it. I’m always annoyed by people doing the thing they wanted to do anyway and presenting it as activism. That’s not how that works.
For the record, while I think there’s plenty to be critical about in modern gaming, “DLC”, “game has a launcher” and “game is ported from other platforms” are not that. “A game I played on the PS3 was too expensive when I wanted to rebuy it” is somebody giving you bad value up front, not some ideological stance you’re taking.
For the record, I also didn’t buy it because I also didn’t think their launch price was right. In fairness, it has since been on sale for 30 bucks multiple times, which is a lot more reasonable.
And again, I’m not saying don’t pirate it. Do what you want. Just don’t be weird about it.
It’s a “me” problem in that “I” think the indies vs AAA lines are increasingly inconsistent and nonsensical. “I” also find the concept of “pirating against” to be extremely disingenuous, which is why there is a whole post explaining that after the line you quoted.
I haven’t bought a full price AAA game in at least 20 years for this reason.
The last few years though things are getting really bad and I have begun investing heavily into retro game disks for my PC as well as on my OG Wii and PS1, 2 and 3 games for my PS3 phat.
I’m getting some great games for l from $1 - $12 that i can play anytime, no connection required.
My old consoles are showing their age, and I’m pretty sure my ps2 bit the dust. I’m trying to get my foot in the door on emulating, but linux has been more difficult to navigate than windows.
I mean, I do use linux exclusively. I just struggle with the emulation. I had a ps2 emulator going after mine crashed, but then it randomly started running like dogshit one day out of the blue, and nothing I tried could get its framerates up.
Since you mentioned publishers that haven’t been greedy, I’ll throw a few more out there that I think are worthy of support. They don’t need launchers, that don’t need accounts, they don’t have predatory subscriptions. They just make great games.
Supergiant Games: Transistor, Hades, Hades II
Larian Studios: Divinity Original Sin, DOS II, Baldur’s Gate 3
Playstack: Balatro
Otherwise, I’m totally with you. The account-walling of the Internet as a whole has pissed me off royally and I see no reason to give those bastards what they want.
Supergiant Games took a payout to make Hades a times exclusive for EGS. They still have some anti-consumer practices, even if you personally don’t think it’s as bad.
If something isn’t respecting your values, I’m of the opinion that you make a stronger statement by not even pirating those games. If you’re spending time playing them, you’re also not spending time and money playing some game that was meticulously made to respect your values. You’re fine playing indie games, but you’d play more of them if you gave up playing these AAA games that you decided to pirate. You talk to your friends and on forums about the games you play, which will at some point convince someone else to buy and play them, too. If you want them to hurt, so that they change, don’t even give them the time of day.
You follow your own moral compass. My feelings are, if I was short on money, I’ve got a backlog and a stream of games being thrown at me for free (legally) such that I’d never have to pirate and never be bored. I’m willing to pay more for a good product, and I so thoroughly enjoyed Borderlands 1-3 that I bought the deluxe edition of 4 that was a no-go for you; they’re one of the few AAA devs keeping LAN alive, and that is worth me throwing me money at them to tell them they’re doing it right, on top of just making a very fun game. The companies whose games you’re pirating are the ones that need the attention the least, but every game you could be instead funneling time and money into benefits so much more from each individual sale. Plus, the reason we’ve got so much anti-consumer bullshit in games now is because piracy was a boogeyman for the industry for a long time, so I’d rather not give them any additional data points to make things even worse when we’ve already got an entire era of video game history that disappears when their servers go offline. That’s how I see it anyway.
The times I don’t feel gross about pirating, personally, are when the pirated version is supposedly the better version of the game (like emulating an old console game instead of playing a compromised PC port) or when the game is delisted and no longer available through ordinary channels, like Battlefield 2. You do what feels right to you. Pirating Nintendo games is an option to me, but they bother me as a consumer in all sorts of ways, and I instead spend that time and money on games like The Thaumaturge rather than playing through Tears of the Kingdom. Nintendo will be just fine without my sale. The team behind The Thaumaturge may or may not have made enough money to make a second game. If Nintendo was a less shitty company, I’d be buying and playing Metroid Prime 4. Maybe I’ll end up discovering and enjoying something else during that time that needs my dollar more instead.
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I am just ignoring them. Not playing their games even pirated.
Played the demo of Prince of Persia last year, totally liked it, price was good, saw the Ubisoft Logo (CEO tells that you don’t get to own your games, AAA games priced 70-130 €, anti consumer practices), never bought that game never played it.
Nintendo also took a red card this year from me, not another penny from my wallet.
Bonus i put in my Steam ignore list all the games that come out with price >60 €, so i wont make a mistake and buy them even on a huge sale.
I buy indie games and only AAA games full priced like BG3, Expedition 33, Elden Ring, etc… , games that they worth it and they don’t bloat you with stupid stuff. And also their companies respect the players.
BG3, E33, ER, all amazing games that don’t add live service junk, don’t require online connections, and respect the art of video games. They are all worth their price and then some, to me.
RDR is €50 full price and includes all dlcs, €30 atm in autumn sale. AAA games are priced between 60-90 these days. What do you mean it’s full AAA priced
In my head anything above ~40 eur is basically AAA pricing. Personally, I’m not going to acclimate to their new prices being double that. If it’s above 40 it basically doesn’t exist to me.
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It was 50 on release too. I agree it’s overpriced but I’m just saying calling it full AAA price is not accurate
Why bother with ethics or morality? I’ve been pirating what I can half of my life now, just because I’m a poor and stingy bastard. Let people with finished mortgages and nice cars pay those companies.
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There are only 3 developers I will preorder from whenever I find the game they are releasing interesting. Erin “Concerned Ape” (Stardew Valley); Bob the Bot (Survivalist); and Terry Cavanagh, the creator of VVVVVV.
They keep their games updated, they are pretty chill people, and they keep players informed during development.
For now, they are the only ones who have earned my trust.
For everything else, it’s full patientgamer mode for me. Wait until the whole game is released with a single price tag, 90% discount, no online requirements outside of multiplayer, and community fixes.
I would also argue too have Hello games on that list too. Have been great at keeping No man’s sky up to date with new features all for free.
This was me 20 years ago.
Congrats on finally seeing the light, but what took you so long?
Sometimes day to day life sucks, we need to escape into games we like and look past all the privacy and annoying bullshit. But when nearly all games are this way, easy to step back and go “wait a minute…”
When (not if) enshittification takes over, I’ll pirate their shit.
I went back to sailing the high seas for games when The Sims 3 from Steam wouldn’t run on Linux no matter what I did, whilst a pirate version runs just fine.
Pirating in Linux is actually much more complicated than running the game from Steam, or from other stores via something like Lutris, because for official versions of a game there are usually scripts doing all the necessary Wine/Proton configuration, but not for the pirate versions of a game, so if it fails to run directly you have to enable logging, dig through the logs yourself and figure out which libraries need to be configured with Winetricks, which is how gaming in Linux used to work 5 years ago (and why very few people did it).
Can you tell me how you got it to work?
This is my go-to for anything that doesn’t want to run:
https://github.com/FanderWasTaken/wine-dependency-hell-solver
I’ve switched a few friends to Linux and whenever they have trouble running a game outside steam, I just send them this. Hasn’t failed yet. While I, like many other Linux users enjoy scrolling through logs: this is easier.
You are the real MVP. This is going to save me a lot of headaches!
If I remember it correctly, the Dodi repack just needs some audio library configured in the Wine instance via Winetricks as a built-in library.
If what you see in the logs is, instead of a “Couldn’t load DLL”, a “Couldn’t find function in DLL” what you have is not a missing library but instead a library version mismatch. Go to Winetricks and force the use of the native version of the library: sometimes the built-in version of a common DLL in Wine is the wrong version, and you need to force Wine to use the version of that DLL that comes with the game, i.e. the “native” version.
If all that fails, Google that game’s name together with “Linux” to see if somebody else has figured it out.
Thank you for the thorough response! I’ll try that out later ☺️
Same story as Netflix, it used to be great value but look at it now…
I don’t think I’ve pirated a game since 2008! Used to be if I didn’t like their price, I waited and bought on sale or used. Now that I play on PC and used games aren’t a thing anymore, I just don’t play it.
There’s a sea of games out there and If I don’t like the practices of the publisher, I skip them and move to the next. Why should I engage with their product if they don’t respect me as a customer or share my sensibilities? I’m not a hypocrite.
I pirated the RDR remaster and felt very entitled to because I bought it way back on xbox360 with the Undead Nightmare mode, but that whole DLC is broken even though they still sold it to me on the Xbox store. So I pirated to new remaster and when I went to play Undead Nightmare, it’s still broken lol
I am not going to be the one to try to stop you but you need to keep in mind that games/sw piracy comes with great risks.
You need to execute anti cheat / drm / copyrighted stuff and this is always a big door open to malware.
Be cautious out there, it is not a pleasant walk
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Why not just use Linux to game?
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Try arch
Well, it would not be the first time that an anti cheat is having a Trojan and a Keylogger to add a computer into a botnet.
Let’s be honest here, nobody is interested in yiur specific data but your hw…
At this point I trust Fitgirl repacks more than some official publishers.
The hell does “piracy against big companies” even mean?
Man, pirate what you can’t afford if you must, just… you know, be honest about it. I’m always annoyed by people doing the thing they wanted to do anyway and presenting it as activism. That’s not how that works.
For the record, while I think there’s plenty to be critical about in modern gaming, “DLC”, “game has a launcher” and “game is ported from other platforms” are not that. “A game I played on the PS3 was too expensive when I wanted to rebuy it” is somebody giving you bad value up front, not some ideological stance you’re taking.
For the record, I also didn’t buy it because I also didn’t think their launch price was right. In fairness, it has since been on sale for 30 bucks multiple times, which is a lot more reasonable.
And again, I’m not saying don’t pirate it. Do what you want. Just don’t be weird about it.
Paying for indies while pirating AAA isn’t that hard of a concept to wrap your head around. Sounds more like a “you” problem
It’s a “me” problem in that “I” think the indies vs AAA lines are increasingly inconsistent and nonsensical. “I” also find the concept of “pirating against” to be extremely disingenuous, which is why there is a whole post explaining that after the line you quoted.
I haven’t bought a full price AAA game in at least 20 years for this reason.
The last few years though things are getting really bad and I have begun investing heavily into retro game disks for my PC as well as on my OG Wii and PS1, 2 and 3 games for my PS3 phat.
I’m getting some great games for l from $1 - $12 that i can play anytime, no connection required.
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My old consoles are showing their age, and I’m pretty sure my ps2 bit the dust. I’m trying to get my foot in the door on emulating, but linux has been more difficult to navigate than windows.
I use Linux exclusively, stick with it, the learning curve is definitely worth it.
I mean, I do use linux exclusively. I just struggle with the emulation. I had a ps2 emulator going after mine crashed, but then it randomly started running like dogshit one day out of the blue, and nothing I tried could get its framerates up.
Since you mentioned publishers that haven’t been greedy, I’ll throw a few more out there that I think are worthy of support. They don’t need launchers, that don’t need accounts, they don’t have predatory subscriptions. They just make great games.
Otherwise, I’m totally with you. The account-walling of the Internet as a whole has pissed me off royally and I see no reason to give those bastards what they want.
As much as I dislike the mechanics of Larian, I still bought their games.
I can relate. I played DOS when it had a camera locked to a 90 degree arc. XD
Supergiant Games took a payout to make Hades a times exclusive for EGS. They still have some anti-consumer practices, even if you personally don’t think it’s as bad.
If something isn’t respecting your values, I’m of the opinion that you make a stronger statement by not even pirating those games. If you’re spending time playing them, you’re also not spending time and money playing some game that was meticulously made to respect your values. You’re fine playing indie games, but you’d play more of them if you gave up playing these AAA games that you decided to pirate. You talk to your friends and on forums about the games you play, which will at some point convince someone else to buy and play them, too. If you want them to hurt, so that they change, don’t even give them the time of day.
This is the best way. Give your time and money to something you believe in instead of wasting a moment on something you don’t.
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You follow your own moral compass. My feelings are, if I was short on money, I’ve got a backlog and a stream of games being thrown at me for free (legally) such that I’d never have to pirate and never be bored. I’m willing to pay more for a good product, and I so thoroughly enjoyed Borderlands 1-3 that I bought the deluxe edition of 4 that was a no-go for you; they’re one of the few AAA devs keeping LAN alive, and that is worth me throwing me money at them to tell them they’re doing it right, on top of just making a very fun game. The companies whose games you’re pirating are the ones that need the attention the least, but every game you could be instead funneling time and money into benefits so much more from each individual sale. Plus, the reason we’ve got so much anti-consumer bullshit in games now is because piracy was a boogeyman for the industry for a long time, so I’d rather not give them any additional data points to make things even worse when we’ve already got an entire era of video game history that disappears when their servers go offline. That’s how I see it anyway.
The times I don’t feel gross about pirating, personally, are when the pirated version is supposedly the better version of the game (like emulating an old console game instead of playing a compromised PC port) or when the game is delisted and no longer available through ordinary channels, like Battlefield 2. You do what feels right to you. Pirating Nintendo games is an option to me, but they bother me as a consumer in all sorts of ways, and I instead spend that time and money on games like The Thaumaturge rather than playing through Tears of the Kingdom. Nintendo will be just fine without my sale. The team behind The Thaumaturge may or may not have made enough money to make a second game. If Nintendo was a less shitty company, I’d be buying and playing Metroid Prime 4. Maybe I’ll end up discovering and enjoying something else during that time that needs my dollar more instead.