Its not that we cant afford them necessarily, its that we cant justify them. The main reason you needed to get the new game was because all your friends were getting it. Only nerds and dweebs and losers play single player games. CoD is where its at bro. When everyone moves to the new game you can lose social time with friends or you can spend another £50. Now that everyone is poor, enough people aren’t migrating to the newest shiniest edition immediately and people are playing games they already have.
Couple that with desperately working every opportunity you can every hour and adults just don’t game together any more.
Tl;dr they are not feeling the social pressure to buy any more.
Even my CoD (Warzone) obsessed friend told me he barely plays anymore. He said it’s become boring and repetitive, and also he finally realized how much time and effort it takes (for a meh payout).
Judging by the comments, reading the article seems to be a lost art. Here’s the image for y’all:
It’s very specifically about 18-24 year olds, compared to last year, with video games seeing the steepest decrease.
You can stop complaining about games being soulless, unless you want to claim that wasn’t a problem last year. Well, you can, but it’s unrelated then. Compared to last year, this age group has felt the need to cut back at everything more so than anyone else.
To be fair, the kids are just a pretty good indicator of where this whole boat is headed. Someone who’s been adulting for a while probably has savings and is willing to burn some of those to keep doing the hobby they like, especially when they’re invested with hardware or friendships that exist through gaming.
We’re headed for a crash, and the junior positions are the first ones that CEOs think they can replace with LLMs (they can’t but that will take a few years to bite them in the ass)
From my perspective as a millennial, people are running out of time and energy too.
Like, I know a couple, both working, no kids, avid and techy gamers who know to play stuff like KCDII, yet they mostly plop down for YouTube at the end of the day. A VG or longer form TV is too draining, and too long.
For me, I didn’t have the mental energy. At a previous job, I was so mentally strained working 8 hours nonstop on highly mentally taxing tasks that even if I wanted to play a game, it felt like a chore rather than something I can enjoy or wind down to. Even if I had the time, since I do other stuff outside of work.
The strange thing is, when I work I have the money but not the time nor energy to justify buying games to sink time into. When I don’t work I have the time and energy but not the money to justify paying $80-$100 on a game I probably won’t play as much as I think otherwise.
I’ve in recent years looking more into reviews and such to weigh in whether or not I want to buy the game in the first place. Compare that to years prior when I could look at a trailer or short snippet and get a good idea of what the game has to offer. Now I’m more weary of grindy game mechanics and predatory micro transactions.
Funny enough, the main reason I’m spending far less is not the shitty economy, but rather the gaming industry’s push to kill physical copies.
I used to buy a lot of physical games at full price because they would be much harder to find later on, but if I’m forced to go with a digital copy this is no longer an issue, so I just let them sit on my wishlist until they’re massively discounted.
Gen X, can’t actually remember the last time I bought a game.
Suikoden 1 & 2 on PS5? I think that was it.
I used to buy games all the time, but I won’t pay for a digital release I don’t own. Avowed? Digital only. Looked for Expedition 33, couldn’t find it on physical.
even milleneals arnt paying it, like myself. not paying for things like switch, or swsh, because they decided to enshittify the console or games, and gouge prices.
i was almost tempted to get it for the first swsh, glad i dint after listening to masuda"enshittifying speech", we get it you’re tired of the franchise, hand it to a company that would make a competent game.
Just to add a contrasting perspective I feel like it’s been an absolute golden age of gaming for me lately personally:
No Man’s Sky still getting relatively fun updates.
Cyberpunk 2077 was great on launch and arguably much better now.
The Last Of Us Part 2 on PC is incredible and I’m happy that the port exists so I could experience it. You haven’t really played the game till you replay it with both protagonists wearing their Hotline Miami shirts in all the cutscenes.
PS4 Spider-Man on PC was prolly the best superhero game I’ve played.
MSFS2020 opened a whole new world of flight sims to me, especially when it comes to doing fun VOR2VOR navigation with littlenavmap charts printed to PDFs and attached in VR, and Assetto Corsa did the same for racing sims.
Speaking of VR, H3VR is stronger than ever. I have many fond memories of VRChat just a few years back.
Victoria 3 has a really fun thriving modding scene.
Indie games like Sea Power, Flight of Nova, Stray, Ultrakill, World of Horror, Nuclear Option, Descenders and Crisis In The Kremlin: The Cold War have been a big timesink for me lately as well as classics of indie like Suzerain and actual art masterpiece DEFCON.
It’s also been great to go back and play old classics and PS3 emulation now that PC hardware is much cheaper after the crypto/scalper crises circa 2018.
Also, with Steam play and the steam deck, PC Gaming is easier than ever and just hassle-free.
I never played the popular junk so ig to me all this gacha mtx horse armor crap just doesn’t really relate.
With how much CoD costs and how the player base tends to abandon the game once the new one releases, Game Pass is pretty much the most logical way of getting your hands on CoD. I reckon most people play it through that.
I think SOME of it has to do with AAA being dogshit, but I think a lot of it is actually that they just play roblox. I have been told “why would I buy peak when roblox has this mountain climbing game for free?”
You’re thinking of Gen Alpha. GenZ was born starting '97, most of us are closer to 30 than 13, they don’t play Roblox or know what that is. All they know is eat hot chip and twerk and cry for a world that never was yet feels was taken from us while watching old vine compilations and being able to recite them word for word with impressive if slightly concerning accuracy.
I get what you’re saying, and Roblox’s grasp definitely gets worse on gen alpha and the younger you get, but that quote in my og comment came from a 26 year old playing with another 26 year old and a 27 year old. Gen Z for sure plays roblox
Oh ofc we heard of it, but as I said, I don’t think I, nor the folks I know actually know what it really is, as in: what’s it about or what you do in the game, or if it’s a social thing and not a game etc etc.
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Translation: Gen-Z does not want to buy those godawful AAA games.
Its not that we cant afford them necessarily, its that we cant justify them. The main reason you needed to get the new game was because all your friends were getting it. Only nerds and dweebs and losers play single player games. CoD is where its at bro. When everyone moves to the new game you can lose social time with friends or you can spend another £50. Now that everyone is poor, enough people aren’t migrating to the newest shiniest edition immediately and people are playing games they already have.
Couple that with desperately working every opportunity you can every hour and adults just don’t game together any more.
Tl;dr they are not feeling the social pressure to buy any more.
Some people actively avoid multiplayer games to avoid obnoxious, entitled kids.
Lol, that was great. Thanks!
Happy dweeb/nerd confirmed here. Single player, story-driven is where it’s at.
Even my CoD (Warzone) obsessed friend told me he barely plays anymore. He said it’s become boring and repetitive, and also he finally realized how much time and effort it takes (for a meh payout).
How are you going to be on Lemmy, a super-niche, nerdy-ass platform, and call Single Player gamers dweebs lol?
I thought maybe the tone would come across as sarcastic. I mean obviously nobody wants to be doxxed by a teenager hopped up on caffeine and adderall
Buy Indies. Fuck AAA
there are also almost no new games worth even looking at anymore. There are some, but they are quite rare
In the AAA space, sure
Judging by the comments, reading the article seems to be a lost art. Here’s the image for y’all:
It’s very specifically about 18-24 year olds, compared to last year, with video games seeing the steepest decrease.
You can stop complaining about games being soulless, unless you want to claim that wasn’t a problem last year. Well, you can, but it’s unrelated then. Compared to last year, this age group has felt the need to cut back at everything more so than anyone else.
Here’s the thread mentioned in the article. Suspected reason is restarting of student loan payments and difficult job market.
Almost like they have no money to spend after rent and food.
To be fair, the kids are just a pretty good indicator of where this whole boat is headed. Someone who’s been adulting for a while probably has savings and is willing to burn some of those to keep doing the hobby they like, especially when they’re invested with hardware or friendships that exist through gaming.
We’re headed for a crash, and the junior positions are the first ones that CEOs think they can replace with LLMs (they can’t but that will take a few years to bite them in the ass)
From my perspective as a millennial, people are running out of time and energy too.
Like, I know a couple, both working, no kids, avid and techy gamers who know to play stuff like KCDII, yet they mostly plop down for YouTube at the end of the day. A VG or longer form TV is too draining, and too long.
Video games have been my biggest hobbies for basically my entire life, but I barely play them anymore for basically this reason.
For me, I didn’t have the mental energy. At a previous job, I was so mentally strained working 8 hours nonstop on highly mentally taxing tasks that even if I wanted to play a game, it felt like a chore rather than something I can enjoy or wind down to. Even if I had the time, since I do other stuff outside of work.
The strange thing is, when I work I have the money but not the time nor energy to justify buying games to sink time into. When I don’t work I have the time and energy but not the money to justify paying $80-$100 on a game I probably won’t play as much as I think otherwise.
I’ve in recent years looking more into reviews and such to weigh in whether or not I want to buy the game in the first place. Compare that to years prior when I could look at a trailer or short snippet and get a good idea of what the game has to offer. Now I’m more weary of grindy game mechanics and predatory micro transactions.
Like others said, it’s not just Gen-Z.
Funny enough, the main reason I’m spending far less is not the shitty economy, but rather the gaming industry’s push to kill physical copies.
I used to buy a lot of physical games at full price because they would be much harder to find later on, but if I’m forced to go with a digital copy this is no longer an issue, so I just let them sit on my wishlist until they’re massively discounted.
I OWN them!
I do buy games from time to time, but 2 of my most played games on Steam are just free games. OpenTTD and vivid/stasis.
Gen X, can’t actually remember the last time I bought a game.
Suikoden 1 & 2 on PS5? I think that was it.
I used to buy games all the time, but I won’t pay for a digital release I don’t own. Avowed? Digital only. Looked for Expedition 33, couldn’t find it on physical.
I’m not leaving gaming, gaming is leaving me.
Could it be that the economy fucking sucks?
Nope, clearly it’s our fault for not just going out and buying stuff.
even milleneals arnt paying it, like myself. not paying for things like switch, or swsh, because they decided to enshittify the console or games, and gouge prices.
I’m not gonna lie, I’ve spent hundreds. But I’m definitely not buying a switch 2, what a rip off.
i was almost tempted to get it for the first swsh, glad i dint after listening to masuda"enshittifying speech", we get it you’re tired of the franchise, hand it to a company that would make a competent game.
Just to add a contrasting perspective I feel like it’s been an absolute golden age of gaming for me lately personally:
No Man’s Sky still getting relatively fun updates. Cyberpunk 2077 was great on launch and arguably much better now.
The Last Of Us Part 2 on PC is incredible and I’m happy that the port exists so I could experience it. You haven’t really played the game till you replay it with both protagonists wearing their Hotline Miami shirts in all the cutscenes. PS4 Spider-Man on PC was prolly the best superhero game I’ve played.
MSFS2020 opened a whole new world of flight sims to me, especially when it comes to doing fun VOR2VOR navigation with littlenavmap charts printed to PDFs and attached in VR, and Assetto Corsa did the same for racing sims.
Speaking of VR, H3VR is stronger than ever. I have many fond memories of VRChat just a few years back.
Victoria 3 has a really fun thriving modding scene. Indie games like Sea Power, Flight of Nova, Stray, Ultrakill, World of Horror, Nuclear Option, Descenders and Crisis In The Kremlin: The Cold War have been a big timesink for me lately as well as classics of indie like Suzerain and actual art masterpiece DEFCON.
It’s also been great to go back and play old classics and PS3 emulation now that PC hardware is much cheaper after the crypto/scalper crises circa 2018.
Also, with Steam play and the steam deck, PC Gaming is easier than ever and just hassle-free.
I never played the popular junk so ig to me all this gacha mtx horse armor crap just doesn’t really relate.
Aren’t we all, fam?
Then who is? Millions of people are gonna buy the new Call of Duty on release. Who are they?
Kids on consoles with mom’s money, those kids that eat up shit like Fortnite and other live-service shovelware.
With how much CoD costs and how the player base tends to abandon the game once the new one releases, Game Pass is pretty much the most logical way of getting your hands on CoD. I reckon most people play it through that.
I think SOME of it has to do with AAA being dogshit, but I think a lot of it is actually that they just play roblox. I have been told “why would I buy peak when roblox has this mountain climbing game for free?”
You’re thinking of Gen Alpha. GenZ was born starting '97, most of us are closer to 30 than 13, they don’t play Roblox or know what that is. All they know is eat hot chip and twerk and cry for a world that never was yet feels was taken from us while watching old vine compilations and being able to recite them word for word with impressive if slightly concerning accuracy.
I get what you’re saying, and Roblox’s grasp definitely gets worse on gen alpha and the younger you get, but that quote in my og comment came from a 26 year old playing with another 26 year old and a 27 year old. Gen Z for sure plays roblox
That’s…wild. No one in my 27 year old age group of friends knows what Roblox really even is or has ever touched it.
Gen Z sure do know about Roblox (as in heard of it).
It’s just that most either play(ed) Minecraft or never were fond of those games in general
Oh ofc we heard of it, but as I said, I don’t think I, nor the folks I know actually know what it really is, as in: what’s it about or what you do in the game, or if it’s a social thing and not a game etc etc.