Is some context missing? I’m trying to be dense, I’m just not sure how Deepseek broke American laws. I get that a license is required for countries to purchase these from the vendor. What is stopping a third party from collecting hardware through intermediaries and reselling them to a Chinese company outside of US borders?
Your response got that there is limited legal recourse, even if it’s true. The main hope is messaging but it’s a long shot.
The Deepseek-R1 paper shows us that training good LLMs can be done by anyone. That means you don’t need NVidias top of the line chips and you don’t need to pay a premium to some company that got access to those chips.
If it turns out that they lied about the hardware they used, it means that Nvidia and the big AI companies still enjoy a monopoly.
I get the prevailing idea, and I can understand the reasoning behind it. My question really was trying to ferret out whether it was US laws that were violated, Singaporean laws, the initial trade agreement, or something else.
OT: the sudden reload of the page in a reception hole on the train caused me to disable JS for tomshardware for forever. No reload that way. And it even loads faster.
Like how everything on the internet got smuggled into their training data?
yawn stop complaining US big tech, it isn’t a good look on you and besides if you are complaining that means you aren’t working and taps sign the sign you put up yourself in place of the old one we all liked (what did it say? “maybe don’t do evil”? I can’t remember anymore) says “results not excuses”.
: )
If I may leave you with a bit of advice, almost everybody hates your guts and honestly you deserve it.
Authorities, including the White House and the FBI, are investigating whether DeepSeek obtained restricted AI GPUs through third-party firms in Singapore.
I wonder if this has anything to do with all those high-level terminations disguised as Jan 6 investigation retribution at the FBI.
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lol
rofl even
IJBOL is what all the cool kids are using
Us is looking like a limp dick cuck…
Chinese did a free market on US and oligarchs are having a melt down over it.
Yeah and I thought taking whatever you need to train AIs was fine, right AI companies?
Is some context missing? I’m trying to be dense, I’m just not sure how Deepseek broke American laws. I get that a license is required for countries to purchase these from the vendor. What is stopping a third party from collecting hardware through intermediaries and reselling them to a Chinese company outside of US borders?
Yes.
Your response got that there is limited legal recourse, even if it’s true. The main hope is messaging but it’s a long shot.
The Deepseek-R1 paper shows us that training good LLMs can be done by anyone. That means you don’t need NVidias top of the line chips and you don’t need to pay a premium to some company that got access to those chips.
If it turns out that they lied about the hardware they used, it means that Nvidia and the big AI companies still enjoy a monopoly.
Makes sense.
You’re not allowed to buy/resell the hardware to China as an intermediary.
I get the prevailing idea, and I can understand the reasoning behind it. My question really was trying to ferret out whether it was US laws that were violated, Singaporean laws, the initial trade agreement, or something else.
The seller and buyer both violated US export controls, which is against US law.
Why does China care about US law though?
They don’t, but that wasn’t your question.
The intermediaries care. This is very obvious.
OT: the sudden reload of the page in a reception hole on the train caused me to disable JS for tomshardware for forever. No reload that way. And it even loads faster.
Like how everything on the internet got smuggled into their training data?
yawn stop complaining US big tech, it isn’t a good look on you and besides if you are complaining that means you aren’t working and taps sign the sign you put up yourself in place of the old one we all liked (what did it say? “maybe don’t do evil”? I can’t remember anymore) says “results not excuses”.
: )
If I may leave you with a bit of advice, almost everybody hates your guts and honestly you deserve it.
lmao the meltdown continues
Maybe they used AMD?
Doesn’t even come close to the h100s
I wonder if this has anything to do with all those high-level terminations disguised as Jan 6 investigation retribution at the FBI.
😂
Cope and seeth
Onion posts are less ridiculous than this