“Starting with Studios, the $400 million+ year-over-year decline during Q1 was primarily due to the very tough comp we faced in games against the success of Hogwart’s Legacy last year in the first quarter, in conjunction with the disappointing Suicide Squad release this past quarter, which we impaired, leading to a $200 million impact to EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortisation) during the first quarter,” CFO Gunnar Wiedenfels said during the investor call after the report was published.
This doesn’t line up at all with what Insider Gaming wrote. I don’t think they know how to interpret company financials.
Costing revenue itself is a questionable phrase. A game can miss its revenue target, but that’s not the same thing. Here it looks like earnings were lower by $200M due in part to more than $400M lower revenue comparing to a Q1 2023, which had the Hogwarts Legacy release.
Good demonstration of the current quality of journalism. “Cost X in revenue” doesn’t make any sense, as cost and revenue are the exact opposite things, the difference of which (if I simplify) make up the EBITDA that the quote from the company actually referenced for the 200 M USD negative impact.
I’m not expecting a game journalist be an ACCA certified accountant, but should be at least able to write an accurate title based on the available quotes and information.
So basically the single player offline game made bank, but they keep pushing this live service crap thinking it’s going to be the next GTA online and not what 90% of the live service crap ends up being.
That’s the thought process, and it’s also what’s going to bring a lot of these companies down. Their shitty game isn’t going to beat the odds when all the other shitty games are also being pushed. Their chance of success and potential return figures are likely off by a large margin.
Edit: For example, Overwatch, which has actually hit the mainstream and has a fairly large player base, I think still isn’t profitable.
Yeah, I think the first few years were profitable (excluding Overwatch League), but OW2 for sure hasn’t been. I don’t think OW1 was by the end either.
They had no way to make more money and it was a one time purchase. The switch to OW2 sucks, and it was exploitative as fuck and full of lies, but they did need some form of continuous revenue stream. It just wasn’t the greedy way they went about it, pushing everyone away.
This is a very good point. It also shows the delusion of the executives, thinking that their next shitty looter shooter will become the new Fortnite, not understanding the oversaturation of the market. People have limited hours to play per day, the only way they can play your game is if they stop playing something else.
Fun fact, The Suicide Squad (2021) was a box office flop, whereas Suicide Squad (2016), the only academy award winning DCEU film, was a box office smash hit!
Yeah, they really went in hard with Suicide Squad, to be perfectly frank, the only good thing to come out of suicide squad was the Peacemaker show on HBO.
Yeah I mean that’s kinda how I feel about it too. Why kill the momentum of a show that popular like that? Makes no sense. And yeah, I’m in the same boat. I won’t even give a shit by the time it comes out.
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That’s the way business go
What, are they some sort of…Suicide Squad?
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This doesn’t line up at all with what Insider Gaming wrote. I don’t think they know how to interpret company financials.
Costing revenue itself is a questionable phrase. A game can miss its revenue target, but that’s not the same thing. Here it looks like earnings were lower by $200M due in part to more than $400M lower revenue comparing to a Q1 2023, which had the Hogwarts Legacy release.
Good demonstration of the current quality of journalism. “Cost X in revenue” doesn’t make any sense, as cost and revenue are the exact opposite things, the difference of which (if I simplify) make up the EBITDA that the quote from the company actually referenced for the 200 M USD negative impact.
I’m not expecting a game journalist be an ACCA certified accountant, but should be at least able to write an accurate title based on the available quotes and information.
So basically the single player offline game made bank, but they keep pushing this live service crap thinking it’s going to be the next GTA online and not what 90% of the live service crap ends up being.
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. One in ten isn’t bad odds.
Alana Pierce has a great take on this. Her pount is that all games are a risk, but live service has a chance at infinite upside.
Suits dont give a shit about anything but risk/reward, so live service always seems like the right choice to them, even if 99% of them bomb.
That’s the thought process, and it’s also what’s going to bring a lot of these companies down. Their shitty game isn’t going to beat the odds when all the other shitty games are also being pushed. Their chance of success and potential return figures are likely off by a large margin.
Edit: For example, Overwatch, which has actually hit the mainstream and has a fairly large player base, I think still isn’t profitable.
I think it was profitable, at one point, up until the bait and switch that was Overwatch 2.
Yeah, I think the first few years were profitable (excluding Overwatch League), but OW2 for sure hasn’t been. I don’t think OW1 was by the end either.
They had no way to make more money and it was a one time purchase. The switch to OW2 sucks, and it was exploitative as fuck and full of lies, but they did need some form of continuous revenue stream. It just wasn’t the greedy way they went about it, pushing everyone away.
This is a very good point. It also shows the delusion of the executives, thinking that their next shitty looter shooter will become the new Fortnite, not understanding the oversaturation of the market. People have limited hours to play per day, the only way they can play your game is if they stop playing something else.
If it costs 200 million to take a shot, maybe it isn’t great odds.
If you’ve got a market cap of three trillion and the investors expect three trillion plus one next quarter, can you afford to risk it?
Something something reap what you sow
Lesson learned: there can be no good Suicide Squad title unless prefixed by “The”.
Fun fact, The Suicide Squad (2021) was a box office flop, whereas Suicide Squad (2016), the only academy award winning DCEU film, was a box office smash hit!
Well, hard for it to succeed at the box office when movie theaters were still closed/avoided in the midst of the pandemic.
It still failed to hit projected box office returns with that factored in!
It’s just funny because it’s a good movie and the first one won an academy award but is terrible.
And they won it for writing “damaged” on Joker’s forehead… at least in part.
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If only every live service game and technology suffered the same fate. Also p2w.
Womp womp.
So far.
Yeah, they really went in hard with Suicide Squad, to be perfectly frank, the only good thing to come out of suicide squad was the Peacemaker show on HBO.
And The Suicide Squad.
The Suicide Squad.
Oof, thank you
And Barbie. What a spin-off !
Yeah. Sucks they aren’t even planning on starting production on season 2 till 2025
Like honestly what’s the point? Just say it’s done, as almost all the hype will have gone away. The show is already like two years old anyway.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have a season 2, but if I have to wait until potentially 2026 to watch it then I just won’t care by that point.
Yeah I mean that’s kinda how I feel about it too. Why kill the momentum of a show that popular like that? Makes no sense. And yeah, I’m in the same boat. I won’t even give a shit by the time it comes out.
Best intro EVER
DO YA REALLY WANNA DO YA REALLY WANNA TASTE IIIIT!
I just watched it twice in a row, thank you very much.
🇳🇴🤘🎸
Thanks, I’d never seen that! It’s pretty glorious itself
And what’s 200M to Warner Bros? Nothing
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