I don’t really understand all the hate for 11. I use it at work and it’s fine. I prefer 10 and 7 but 11 doesn’t rile me up or anything (except the forced online account thing).
I don’t know why you are so insistent that everyone who mentions Windows is using a online account, but you actually do not need a google account to use an android device in most cases. I have been using android phones with no logged in account, with side loaded app stores and independent apps for years. Maybe the mainline flagship devices enforce it; I haven’t had that problem personally.
Google would really like to crack down on installing software without their permission, and they still track every bit of information they can with the Google Play API even without an account, but I digress. I haven’t had a google account in several years. Or a Microsoft account either, for that matter.
As a Linux user who is forced to use 11 for work, it’s awful. Everything is super slow and laggy. Sometimes the left panel of the file explorer just doesn’t load and I have to exit and reopen. And that’s just after a couple of weeks of using it.
My Microsoft surface kept having my issues with my thunderbolt dock - screen flicker on occasion. Swap the dock, same problem. Get a new 3k Lenovo laptop, problem is gone except after some undefined amount of time my mouse and keyboard temporarily disconnect. Like for .5 seconds. Sometimes this causes my keys to repeat (“Hi, howwww are you doing” for example)
Both docks did not have this issue with the mac I was using for work lol.
Both laptops, when windows asks for my pin the pin window has no taskbar icon, it’s the default no icon image.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg. So many little glitches I’ve been dealing with.
So does the pro version, at least for 11. Most people’s complaints don’t exist on my laptop, but every time I use someone else’s windows computer I get hurt deep inside somewhere
For me its explorer tabs freezing, I can move the window around, but can’t click any files inside.
Then there is the Office ai.exe and aimgr.DLL that keeping getting installed with updates, and these randomly hog system resources even though I’m not using office apps at the moment. (In Microsoft Office/root/vfs/ProgramFikesCommonX64(X86)/Microsoft Shared/Office16/
I’ve had W11 at work for well over a year and had the explorer freeze happening for the first time yesterday. I don’t think it’s a big issue. What frustrated me the most is that credential guard broke mschapv2 authentication, forcing us to change the wireless authentication to certificate based but we’ve had non-stop issues with that.
During testing this didn’t even register because it doesn’t outright break the authentication flow, but (according to the official Microsoft documentation) it “might” break it. So after introducing W11 we started getting people where wireless worked fine one moment, and then it would disconnect and refuse to reconnect. Reinstalling the NIC drivers solved it for some time, but inevitably it would happen again, but sporadically and no obvious reason for it.
So we switched to EAP-TLS as per Microsofts recommendation and it has a whole range of new issues, mainly frequent re-authentications. We deployed a temp wifi now which is just password based to figure out wtf is going on, but this issue has been the bane of my existence for months now.
I downvoted because not understanding the hate for windows 11 is really just due to ignorance at this point. I mean, not everyone is a power user, but windows has been on the steady decline for at least 10 years now. Enshittification isn’t some new concept.
Same. We have it on several hundred computers, and I can’t really say it is any more trouble than 10. It has its annoyances to be sure, but no more than any other OS I’ve worked with. Maybe the work versions are just better, but I’ve not seen any issues with family PCs either.
I think maybe the root of the conflict is that it only works if you are fine with Microsoft’s “design” choices… cloud accounts, one drive integration, taskbar on bottom, etc., and many people on this platform prefer a much higher degree of control over the OS.
I think maybe the root of the conflict is that it only works if you are fine with Microsoft’s “design” choices… cloud accounts, one drive integration, taskbar on bottom
Grouping these three things together and then labelling the group ‘design choices’ is wild
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I don’t really understand all the hate for 11. I use it at work and it’s fine. I prefer 10 and 7 but 11 doesn’t rile me up or anything (except the forced online account thing).
For me it was Microsoft’s support for genocide in Palestine.
You want to support that?
And yet you need a forced online account for android or apple and you gladly do that.
I don’t know why you are so insistent that everyone who mentions Windows is using a online account, but you actually do not need a google account to use an android device in most cases. I have been using android phones with no logged in account, with side loaded app stores and independent apps for years. Maybe the mainline flagship devices enforce it; I haven’t had that problem personally.
Google would really like to crack down on installing software without their permission, and they still track every bit of information they can with the Google Play API even without an account, but I digress. I haven’t had a google account in several years. Or a Microsoft account either, for that matter.
As a Linux user who is forced to use 11 for work, it’s awful. Everything is super slow and laggy. Sometimes the left panel of the file explorer just doesn’t load and I have to exit and reopen. And that’s just after a couple of weeks of using it.
It shouldn’t take 30 seconds to open explorer
My Microsoft surface kept having my issues with my thunderbolt dock - screen flicker on occasion. Swap the dock, same problem. Get a new 3k Lenovo laptop, problem is gone except after some undefined amount of time my mouse and keyboard temporarily disconnect. Like for .5 seconds. Sometimes this causes my keys to repeat (“Hi, howwww are you doing” for example)
Both docks did not have this issue with the mac I was using for work lol.
Both laptops, when windows asks for my pin the pin window has no taskbar icon, it’s the default no icon image.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg. So many little glitches I’ve been dealing with.
Windows 11 can lick a twat.
Enterprise editions often have a lot of the garbage disabled
So does the pro version, at least for 11. Most people’s complaints don’t exist on my laptop, but every time I use someone else’s windows computer I get hurt deep inside somewhere
For me its explorer tabs freezing, I can move the window around, but can’t click any files inside. Then there is the Office ai.exe and aimgr.DLL that keeping getting installed with updates, and these randomly hog system resources even though I’m not using office apps at the moment. (In Microsoft Office/root/vfs/ProgramFikesCommonX64(X86)/Microsoft Shared/Office16/
I’ve had W11 at work for well over a year and had the explorer freeze happening for the first time yesterday. I don’t think it’s a big issue. What frustrated me the most is that credential guard broke mschapv2 authentication, forcing us to change the wireless authentication to certificate based but we’ve had non-stop issues with that.
During testing this didn’t even register because it doesn’t outright break the authentication flow, but (according to the official Microsoft documentation) it “might” break it. So after introducing W11 we started getting people where wireless worked fine one moment, and then it would disconnect and refuse to reconnect. Reinstalling the NIC drivers solved it for some time, but inevitably it would happen again, but sporadically and no obvious reason for it.
So we switched to EAP-TLS as per Microsofts recommendation and it has a whole range of new issues, mainly frequent re-authentications. We deployed a temp wifi now which is just password based to figure out wtf is going on, but this issue has been the bane of my existence for months now.
While my freezing of tabbed explorer is a daily prooblem, I’m glad I’m not dealing with your authentication issue. 😀
It’s a shame you’re getting downvoted for a simple opinion. Clearly people still think this is reddit.
I downvoted because not understanding the hate for windows 11 is really just due to ignorance at this point. I mean, not everyone is a power user, but windows has been on the steady decline for at least 10 years now. Enshittification isn’t some new concept.
Careful now, that opinion isn’t allowed round these parts.
Same. We have it on several hundred computers, and I can’t really say it is any more trouble than 10. It has its annoyances to be sure, but no more than any other OS I’ve worked with. Maybe the work versions are just better, but I’ve not seen any issues with family PCs either.
I think maybe the root of the conflict is that it only works if you are fine with Microsoft’s “design” choices… cloud accounts, one drive integration, taskbar on bottom, etc., and many people on this platform prefer a much higher degree of control over the OS.
Grouping these three things together and then labelling the group ‘design choices’ is wild