Sony is releasing a new PlayStation 5 console, but it appears it will be a downgrade compared to the previous model to keep costs down.
Same price, less storage. Shrinkflation at its finest.
Sony plans to release a new PS5 Slim All-Digital console with an 825GB SSD, reducing storage from the previous 1TB to optimize production costs amid rising expenses. The PS5 Slim Standard with a disc drive will retain the 1TB SSD, and the updated model is expected to launch in Europe first.
You referring to the expansion drives that slot in the back and are hotswappable? Most expensive storage medium I’ve ever bought. Problem was, there was no alternative… Internal storage ignored, ofc
Current gen games can’t be played from standard external storage. You could put the game there, but it would have to be moved to internal memory to play it.
How many games are y’all installing at once? 825GB is plenty. You can have three 200GB games installed, plus 3 or 4 AAA games with more reasonable disk usage.
That’s the way I play. Like 2-4 games max on my storage. Each one is a different genre, I play it until I finish then uninstall and move on to next game.
I think that’s a bit too big to be just the OS, they have like 50GB of built-in stuff (share factory+astro but you can uninstall both). It’s probably something sensible like 60GB but they’re playing it safe by doubling the reserved space. It’s Sony after all
You lose some because 825GB refers to 825.000.000.000 bytes, divide by 1024 (bytes in KB) and you get 768GB usable space. In the early days of ps5 there was 667GB left over after OS and stuff
Hell yeah. We should be boycotting them for taking our physical media, because it breeds complacency and that’s how they steal from us. You will own nothing and eat bugs.
I mean… you can still use physical media for games, just prepare for it to be awfully slow unless it’s like a tiny indie game or something low-fi. As for the console makers, they still offer non-digital models. Idk who’s “they” in this instance.
edit: even better, it was pointed out to me it doesn’t have to be slow if you copy the contents of a disc to internal space
I agree, but being that you can buy a 256gb SSD from Walmart for $17.99, I’d like to see a new complete game purchase at $67.99 that you just plug the SSD into the top of the console and press a button to turn it on. SSD loads and has the entire contents of a completed game without need for internet access. If it doesn’t work, they didn’t ship a complete game and should be liable for refunding/replacing the product you bought from them.
Sure they are sata drives, but you really shouldn’t need something faster to play a game, as everything can go to the consoles RAM/GPU’s memory and then store back to the drives, meaning they could cut internal storage if needed as well. Stick the drives in cases, put on your games rack. Id like it. Maybe I’m not the main demographic though.
No longer play a game, sell it… Or format the drive and recycle it for another use.
So, back to cartridges. Honestly I’d be totally fine with that- but the issue isn’t quite with my end. Some game is made, and is sold for $70. A disc costs under a dollar to produce. A cart is significantly more, and digital is just paying upkeep on a server. Digital has the highest profit margin, and carts the lowest. Discs are great for physical distribution.
That said, I would totally love collector editions in the form of a figurine with storage media built in.
You can still get modern games on a bluray, but people started valuing convenience in the moment over everything else. That’s why digital-only consoles got so huge, on top of being cheaper.
You can fit maybe 5 games at 100 GBs a piece (which is pretty standard for PS5) on an 825 GB drive, not to mention that you have to leave up to 100 GB overhead just to update certain games plus room for the OS. If you have a family then you literally have a situation like mine where I have 1 game installed to the PS5 and Warzone, Fortnite, Roblox, Rocket League, Fall Guys, and Marvel Rivals take up the rest of the console storage space
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Digital only with reduced space? What’s the worst that could happen? 🤔
“Buy a bigger SSD!”
I guess just be glad they’re not pulling a Microsoft where you’d have to buy a propriety NVMe drive.
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You referring to the expansion drives that slot in the back and are hotswappable? Most expensive storage medium I’ve ever bought. Problem was, there was no alternative… Internal storage ignored, ofc
You always were able to use a standard external drive. Yeah, the speed was slower, but you weren’t forced to buy the expansion card.
Current gen games can’t be played from standard external storage. You could put the game there, but it would have to be moved to internal memory to play it.
BC games would work fine, but not current gen.
Applies to both PS5 and Xbox both.
Are you able to expand the PS5’s storage with just a normal USB 3.0 drive?
Only for backwards compatibility titles. PS5 titles have to be run off of either the integrated storage or an M.2 SSD.
You can, but you can’t play games from it, it would be storage only. You’d have to move it to internal memory to play it.
Okay, so isn’t that exactly the same situation as the Xbox, but then the Xbox gives you the additional option to actually expand the hot storage?
Yup. On the PS5, you can add standard M2 storage to increase the usable internal space.
On the Xbox you have to use the Seagate or WD plug.
Oh no, the SSD is soldered to the motherboard.
Though this is probably unlikely, I wouldn’t actually be surprised.
No, the PS5 has a standard expansion slot.
its weird cause the UHD player is probably what i use the most on my PS5
How many games are y’all installing at once? 825GB is plenty. You can have three 200GB games installed, plus 3 or 4 AAA games with more reasonable disk usage.
Not the freaking point but okay.
Sound more like one game if you are a CoD player.
CoD players don’t play other games anyway.
That’s the way I play. Like 2-4 games max on my storage. Each one is a different genre, I play it until I finish then uninstall and move on to next game.
I usually have 10-20 on my PC and Steam Deck. Sometimes I’m not in the mood for the 2-3 games I’m playing through, but one of my favorites sounds fun.
Those 200gb games take a while to download, even on a gigabit internet connection.
825GB is the raw space, not usable space.
You lose some to formatting and file structure, you lose more to system reserved space for updates and what not.
Out of the box, a 1 TB PS5 has 848 GB available.
So if you’re starting with 825 GB that means you’re likely to only have, what? 700 GB free? Less?
Some games push 100 GB, so max of 7 of those not counting DLC and what not?
Don’t forget that the OS is on there too taking up space and from reports it’s about 160 GB on its own.
I think that’s a bit too big to be just the OS, they have like 50GB of built-in stuff (share factory+astro but you can uninstall both). It’s probably something sensible like 60GB but they’re playing it safe by doubling the reserved space. It’s Sony after all
The OS is 160 GB? That seems unrealistic. Windows 11 is bloated AF and is less than 30 GB.
What could an OS running on fixed hardware have that requires 160 GB?
You lose some because 825GB refers to 825.000.000.000 bytes, divide by 1024 (bytes in KB) and you get 768GB usable space. In the early days of ps5 there was 667GB left over after OS and stuff
I have a four TB SSD installed in my PS5 and I wish I had more.
I like to play what I want without waiting for a download.
Just put the disc in and shut the lid. I don’t know what these downloads people are talking about are
Hell yeah. We should be boycotting them for taking our physical media, because it breeds complacency and that’s how they steal from us. You will own nothing and eat bugs.
I mean… you can still use physical media for games, just prepare for it to be awfully slow unless it’s like a tiny indie game or something low-fi. As for the console makers, they still offer non-digital models. Idk who’s “they” in this instance.
edit: even better, it was pointed out to me it doesn’t have to be slow if you copy the contents of a disc to internal space
I agree, but being that you can buy a 256gb SSD from Walmart for $17.99, I’d like to see a new complete game purchase at $67.99 that you just plug the SSD into the top of the console and press a button to turn it on. SSD loads and has the entire contents of a completed game without need for internet access. If it doesn’t work, they didn’t ship a complete game and should be liable for refunding/replacing the product you bought from them.
Sure they are sata drives, but you really shouldn’t need something faster to play a game, as everything can go to the consoles RAM/GPU’s memory and then store back to the drives, meaning they could cut internal storage if needed as well. Stick the drives in cases, put on your games rack. Id like it. Maybe I’m not the main demographic though.
No longer play a game, sell it… Or format the drive and recycle it for another use.
So, back to cartridges. Honestly I’d be totally fine with that- but the issue isn’t quite with my end. Some game is made, and is sold for $70. A disc costs under a dollar to produce. A cart is significantly more, and digital is just paying upkeep on a server. Digital has the highest profit margin, and carts the lowest. Discs are great for physical distribution.
That said, I would totally love collector editions in the form of a figurine with storage media built in.
Downloads have been a thing for a couple years now.
You can still get modern games on a bluray, but people started valuing convenience in the moment over everything else. That’s why digital-only consoles got so huge, on top of being cheaper.
Even with the PS4, the bluray couldn’t play the game.
It had to install to the internal drive and download updates
Makes sense, blurays are at like 50MB/s read, at least you could keep the disc and share it
You can fit maybe 5 games at 100 GBs a piece (which is pretty standard for PS5) on an 825 GB drive, not to mention that you have to leave up to 100 GB overhead just to update certain games plus room for the OS. If you have a family then you literally have a situation like mine where I have 1 game installed to the PS5 and Warzone, Fortnite, Roblox, Rocket League, Fall Guys, and Marvel Rivals take up the rest of the console storage space