I’m not like, attending a protest rally or anything. I think it’s perfectly fine to spend literally 7 minutes of my day telling people that this movie is shit.
You “no one should ever express disagreement with anything” people need to chill.
Just reiterating what others have said but… if you have an IP you like and want more of it in the future (regardless of medium!) then its success in any other medium will likely impact whether or not you get more.
Unfortunately, we live in a world where:
Money matters more to most IP holders than the IP itself
New IP is seen as risky
Those in charge don’t have to take responsibility for their failures
If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred. As a result, priorities will often shift away from the IP to something else in all mediums (ex. ASOIAF/GOT). Unless the IP is absolutely gangbusters in all other mediums, it will suffer. Similarly, success will likely lead to more utilization of the IP in any medium.
It’s unlikely that the IP owner will sell or license the IP in the near future because at one point it was popular and new IP is hard to make. It would be better to hoard IP and maybe try again in a decade when they need a trick up their sleeve. Plus, another failure might damage the IP even more.
Admittedly, I’m not attached to any brands or IP in particular and so I’m not invested really. I just makes me a little sad when some IP I thought well of has this happen… or when the person who benefits from the IP turns out to be a person I’d rather not give money to. Occasionally I’ll ponder what might have been if things had gone differently and feel a little bad.
If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred.
For example, when EA released Tiberian Twilight and it was absolutely awful and didn’t sell, they said that people just didn’t want RTS games anymore and shelved the entire C&C franchise. That was fourteen years ago and we haven’t had a new C&C since then that wasn’t mobile shovelware.
Can’t speak for everyone, but the reason that I care when one of my favorite IPs has a terrible movie, is because the terrible movie ensures that a good one will never be made.
They did a great job with Fallout, and now they are making a second season.
Then there’s Borderlands.
I still haven’t seen it, but I already know that the Borderlands movie I would have loved will never exist.
The new Mario movie was pretty good. There were a few times that I thought “this doesn’t belong here, and they just wanted to shove a reference in”, but overall, I think they did it justice.
They generally don’t work as movies because no one ever follows the story that’s right in front of them. They always add some stupid artistic bullshit preference of their own which causes a huge disconnect from the source material.
I feel there’s this trend where movie directors must and shall make their own story in whatever world is in front of them, instead of trying to make a movie that would fit in the game, or simply take the game’s story and make a movie out of that.
It’s why Lord of The Ring was so fucking good (Christopher Lee/Saruman read the books every year of his life, and corrected Peter Jackson whenever necessary), whereas Rings of Power is shit (I mean, a loving Orc family? What the FUCK have they been snorting!?). It’s also why I’m hopeful to get something good out of Henry Cavill directing any 40k movie (that, or we’re getting nothing, at best. At worst someone else takes over and we’re getting female custodes for no good reason).
I don’t buy that. It’s possible but the producers always want to make it “theirs” and it’s not. It’ll never be theirs. The best they could do is just follow the source material as much as possible.
No one cares about your “quirky” changes. And this is quite evident in all the video game tv series that fail. Because the source material was basically thrown away completely. Because they think we’ll gobble up anything just because of the name.
I made it about as far into the Borderlands movie as i did with the monsterhunter movie, bailing after about a 3rd of the film.
Not really super popular take, but the sexual politics (as in the way the story treated women) in both were something I struggled to get past. Plus they were both goofy and not in a very fun way. I have very similar feelings about the fallout show lol, but glad you enjoyed it.
But i think i teenager might have liked borderlands
the Borderlands movie I would have loved will never exist.
For me it’s Monster Hunter. I refuse to watch the one they made a few years ago. I wonder if there’s a supercut of only scenes that feature the monsters. Or anything involving the Charge Blade.
After reading the synopsis, why tf did they have to make it an isekai?
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I’ve been playing Minecraft off and on since the Beta. I usually play the “All the mods” packs when they launch.
I do not understand how people get so emotionally invested in an IP.
If it isn’t a good movie who cares? Just spend your time doing something else.
Lol people don’t know how to build a personality that isn’t built out of stuff.
I’m not like, attending a protest rally or anything. I think it’s perfectly fine to spend literally 7 minutes of my day telling people that this movie is shit.
You “no one should ever express disagreement with anything” people need to chill.
Just reiterating what others have said but… if you have an IP you like and want more of it in the future (regardless of medium!) then its success in any other medium will likely impact whether or not you get more.
Unfortunately, we live in a world where:
Money matters more to most IP holders than the IP itself
New IP is seen as risky
Those in charge don’t have to take responsibility for their failures
If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred. As a result, priorities will often shift away from the IP to something else in all mediums (ex. ASOIAF/GOT). Unless the IP is absolutely gangbusters in all other mediums, it will suffer. Similarly, success will likely lead to more utilization of the IP in any medium.
It’s unlikely that the IP owner will sell or license the IP in the near future because at one point it was popular and new IP is hard to make. It would be better to hoard IP and maybe try again in a decade when they need a trick up their sleeve. Plus, another failure might damage the IP even more.
Admittedly, I’m not attached to any brands or IP in particular and so I’m not invested really. I just makes me a little sad when some IP I thought well of has this happen… or when the person who benefits from the IP turns out to be a person I’d rather not give money to. Occasionally I’ll ponder what might have been if things had gone differently and feel a little bad.
Good points, well put.
This is just one of the many reasons why our current IP laws are complete and utter garbage.
For example, when EA released Tiberian Twilight and it was absolutely awful and didn’t sell, they said that people just didn’t want RTS games anymore and shelved the entire C&C franchise. That was fourteen years ago and we haven’t had a new C&C since then that wasn’t mobile shovelware.
Can’t speak for everyone, but the reason that I care when one of my favorite IPs has a terrible movie, is because the terrible movie ensures that a good one will never be made.
They did a great job with Fallout, and now they are making a second season.
Then there’s Borderlands.
I still haven’t seen it, but I already know that the Borderlands movie I would have loved will never exist.
at least you have the excellent ‘tales from the borderlands’ to play. I like to replay that ‘movie’ every year.
Super Mario Bros got another movie.
But generally, video games don’t usually work as movies. So it isn’t that big of a loss, lol
Not all of us have another 30 years to wait for everyone to forget about the first disaster.
Idk that first Silent Hill movie is actually pretty good imo.
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The new Mario movie was pretty good. There were a few times that I thought “this doesn’t belong here, and they just wanted to shove a reference in”, but overall, I think they did it justice.
Even Chris Pratt.
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Fair enough. I don’t think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be, but I get it.
Yeah, I enjoyed it. It wasn’t a great movie, but it was fun for a kids’ film, and I loved all the references and stuff.
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I will rewatch a wasted Hoskins and Leguizamo riffing lines in the 90s mario bros forever. That movie is so terrifically bad its awesome.
"Hey, what should our Goombas, a big head with feet and no body, look like in this movie? "
“Obviously, they should have HUGE bodies and a tiny little head!”
They generally don’t work as movies because no one ever follows the story that’s right in front of them. They always add some stupid artistic bullshit preference of their own which causes a huge disconnect from the source material.
I feel there’s this trend where movie directors must and shall make their own story in whatever world is in front of them, instead of trying to make a movie that would fit in the game, or simply take the game’s story and make a movie out of that.
It’s why Lord of The Ring was so fucking good (Christopher Lee/Saruman read the books every year of his life, and corrected Peter Jackson whenever necessary), whereas Rings of Power is shit (I mean, a loving Orc family? What the FUCK have they been snorting!?). It’s also why I’m hopeful to get something good out of Henry Cavill directing any 40k movie (that, or we’re getting nothing, at best. At worst someone else takes over and we’re getting female custodes for no good reason).
Writing for games is usually different than writing for movies.
I believe this is why games tend to do well as TV series – more overlap there.
I don’t buy that. It’s possible but the producers always want to make it “theirs” and it’s not. It’ll never be theirs. The best they could do is just follow the source material as much as possible.
No one cares about your “quirky” changes. And this is quite evident in all the video game tv series that fail. Because the source material was basically thrown away completely. Because they think we’ll gobble up anything just because of the name.
Why do you need a Minecraft movie in your life though?
Personally, I don’t need the things I like to be cross format.
If it works as a movie, great.
If it is never made, no problem.
If it fails, meh.
I don’t think anyone needs any movies in their life at all. People would like a minecraft movie in their lives because they like mine craft I presume.
Personally, I don’t have any interest in Minecraft or it’s movie.
But somebody might, and I hope they get the movie they want, not a name-recognition cash grab.
And in some cases, the IP getting a shit movie or show can tell the game developers “well, time to drop the entire brand for 15 years”.
The Wing Commander and Dungeon Siege treatment.
It wouldn’t have surprised me if WOTC dropped D&D as a brand if Honor Among Thieves had flopped.
I wish they would have. They’ve treated d&d terribly.
I made it about as far into the Borderlands movie as i did with the monsterhunter movie, bailing after about a 3rd of the film.
Not really super popular take, but the sexual politics (as in the way the story treated women) in both were something I struggled to get past. Plus they were both goofy and not in a very fun way. I have very similar feelings about the fallout show lol, but glad you enjoyed it.
But i think i teenager might have liked borderlands
For me it’s Monster Hunter. I refuse to watch the one they made a few years ago. I wonder if there’s a supercut of only scenes that feature the monsters. Or anything involving the Charge Blade.
After reading the synopsis, why tf did they have to make it an isekai?