Known journliast Jason Schrier believes single.player PlayStation exclusives may not release on PC in the future, wondering about the success of these releases
When they released Stellar Blade with Denuvo, it was an easy decision to skip it. I will normally buy anything that even remotely souls-like, but they can go fuck themselves with that anti-consumer behavior. Then there is the fact that still haven’t released Ghost of Yotei on PC, so whenever they get around to that it will be too little, too late.
Seeing as all the single player Sony games I own were actually me rebuying them as a sort of graphical remaster-like situation, they are just throwing money away.
Sony shut down Bluepoint after having them work on some live service grift instead of the obvious money printing machine. It’s safe to say that a Bloodborne Remaster or Remake isn’t happening. 😞
I’ve been skipping the PS5 versions because the games will run better on my PC, but then the sale prices on the PC versions are so much higher than on PS5 I still haven’t bought any of them.
Refusing to release titles to the PC isn’t going to make me run out and purchase a console. There are tons of games on PC. My backlog is long enough that I can live happily without whatever kind of bullshit Nintendo, Sony, and Xbox are trying to peddle. Assuming I did care about a specific title, and it’s being gate locked by console exclusivity, I’ll fucking pirate it. Sony, Microslop, and Nintendo can all get fucked.
I’ve seen way too many times people getting a console because of an exclusive. Now the thing is, we are entering on a very dry hardware season where prices gone to shit (and yes consoles also increased prices), so does Sony really thinks people will be super willing to get an overpriced console on the current economy because of a single exclusive? Sounds like a losing strategy
The answer could actually be much simpler. Last I checked horizon zero Dawn sold over 3 million units on steam which is nowhere near what they sold on PlayStation systems.
I wonder what the cost of porting a game that size is these days, because a few million copies may not be enough to float the endeavor.
Horizon was like years after release, and even if it’s a first time launch on another platform just by virtue of people having already had to wait the same hype isn’t going to be there to buy it.
But then when a game launched at the same time such as Helldivers 2, PC outsold the PS5.
According to analyst firm Alinea Analytics, Helldivers 2 has sold 12 million copies on Steam alone, while PlayStation 5 sales are estimated at 5 million units.
You forgot to mention that it was ported years after its initial launch. Porting is way cheaper than developing especially nowadays where we have basically the same architecture in a dedicated DRM machine (console) than in a Personal Computer, it’s basically a x86 APU running a proprietary fork of BSD (and Windows for xBox). It’s not like back in the days where each machine (pc or console) had there own architectures that could radically differ. Also Game Engines have feature backs-in, Vulkan is universal (and better than DirectX (Microsoft) or OpenGL). Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised that selling 3M copies on Steam alone at a 50% discount would still be a profitable porting.
I waited so long for Horizon Zero Dawn that when it came out on PC I wasn’t really interested any more. Probably will pick it up someday, but it turns out you can get by just fine without PS exclusives.
This one actually bothers me because I was looking forward to Ghost of Yotei, but if Sony are still so allergic to making money, I guess I won’t give them any. Barely a handful of games from an entire generation is certainly not enough to make me buy an overpriced console.
I don’t like all the Checkpoint Charlie bullshit and got fed up with the side content before the main story was over, but the world in Tsushima was so well made that I had a good time in it - far better than AC: Shadows (that I didn’t pay to play, for the record) - and the combat system was fun. Yotei has a character that isn’t forced into the peg hole of a samurai and has a greater selection of weapons so it looks like it’ll be a fun time.
People are allowed to like different things than you. You don’t need to be negative about it.
I haven’t played Yotei yet, but I loved Tsushima. The world was gorgeous and felt rather alive, the activities didn’t overstay their welcome for me, I loved the setting, characters, and plot.
I can believe they will try to reinstate PSN account requirements in their existing PC ports again, but I don’t see them losing a revenue stream. Unless Steam alters the deal themselves, that would be unbelievably stupid for Sony.
Horizon is just yet another open world slop. Not even robo dinos make it palatable. Even the latest god of war was just so brain dead boring, the story wasn’t enough to make me keep playing.
God of War bored me as well, but the Horizon games being SLOP?! I’m personally offended. They are carefully created masterpieces in my opinion.
The way they perfectly amp up the difficulty in proportion to your skill level. You can go anywhere in the world but it guides you perfectly to go where your skill fits. The fights are fun, you can choose to be stealthy or go all in Rambo style.
That first feeling of analyzing a new animal for the first time, planning your strategy ahead of the fight, what parts to attack etc. Then the feeling of jumping in and executing the fight with success. So satisfying.
I personally took on every single fight stealth wise because I love that style.
But anyway, what kind of games do you play that you think are good enough? Curious what your bar is set to.
Robot dinos are well made. I’m not disputing that. It’s the only reason I put up with it for 16h… But I got bored to death with the same open world formula.
As for where my bar is set? I enjoy games like red dead 2 or space marine 2 from recent memory. But my go to are mods and older RPGs, Gothic 2 is gold standard to me. Games like Rogue Trader from owlcats etc. I enjoy depth and hand crafted nature. Hence games like kingdom come rank high on my list for believable world building with memorable characters. I don’t recall a single name from my 16h with horrison…
God of war (the remake) did it well to keep focus on characters and story as opposed to “clutter” and massive open world filled with markers.
I’m fine with a bland story as long as the gameplay is solid. The gameplay is why I play. If I wanted only story I would watch a movie, I suppose.
But you say you played 16h of Horizon? You must not have finished it, or? I played it for 123 hours. Granted I finished it 100%, and did a loooot of gathering and exploring. But 16h feels low for completing all of the main story. I don’t know.
I don’t need to finish something to make up my mind. The game isn’t going to flip on its head 30h in. 16h is more than enough, hell, steam cuts it at 2h for refund.
It’s just that the game has a narrative and game-mechanical progression which you are losing if you don’t follow through.
The 2h threshold for a refund doesn’t really suit every game of course, it’s a blanket threshold for the entire store. 🙂
But meh, you made up your mind, no point in trying to convince you to play it now. I’m just saying it’s a game that might grow on you even more than you realize. I looked it immediately, but even I was amazed at the beautiful scenery and great battles I was going to experience even further into the game. The expansions were awesome as well. Really good end game boss battles.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the games you have access to!
16h barely feels like enough to even get the story started… No wonder they didn’t enjoy it after giving up probably in the first area. Kinda brain-dead opinion tbh. The story in horizon was incredible and even if you ignored every side mission or collectible and just played the campaign there’s a ton of variety in the gameplay and environments.
I lived Horizon Zero Dawn. The story grabbed me and brought me on a wild ride of discovery and intrigue. I also enjoyed the second one though the mystery didn’t get me quite as much as the first. I will be happy to play the third one if it comes to PC and I guess I’ll skip it if not.
I never played TLOU1 or 2 because they came to PC too late.
I have really appreciated games coming to PC like GOD OF WAR, Horizon, and FF7 remake but if they never came to PC I would just have continued never playing them. And if the next installments don’t come to PC I won’t play them either
Watch an actual movie with real writers and actors instead of “playing” an interactive movie with shit writing and bad CGI that is only praised by internet philistines because they need their hobby to have cultural relevance very badly?
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When they released Stellar Blade with Denuvo, it was an easy decision to skip it. I will normally buy anything that even remotely souls-like, but they can go fuck themselves with that anti-consumer behavior. Then there is the fact that still haven’t released Ghost of Yotei on PC, so whenever they get around to that it will be too little, too late.
Then they can back away from increased profits.
PC gamers have plenty of other options.
Seeing as all the single player Sony games I own were actually me rebuying them as a sort of graphical remaster-like situation, they are just throwing money away.
actually right now I’m just waiting for Death Stranding 2
Sony shut down Bluepoint after having them work on some live service grift instead of the obvious money printing machine. It’s safe to say that a Bloodborne Remaster or Remake isn’t happening. 😞
I’ve been skipping the PS5 versions because the games will run better on my PC, but then the sale prices on the PC versions are so much higher than on PS5 I still haven’t bought any of them.
Refusing to release titles to the PC isn’t going to make me run out and purchase a console. There are tons of games on PC. My backlog is long enough that I can live happily without whatever kind of bullshit Nintendo, Sony, and Xbox are trying to peddle. Assuming I did care about a specific title, and it’s being gate locked by console exclusivity, I’ll fucking pirate it. Sony, Microslop, and Nintendo can all get fucked.
I’ve seen way too many times people getting a console because of an exclusive. Now the thing is, we are entering on a very dry hardware season where prices gone to shit (and yes consoles also increased prices), so does Sony really thinks people will be super willing to get an overpriced console on the current economy because of a single exclusive? Sounds like a losing strategy
Buy? Nah, they want you to rent or lease a PlayStation.
That’s great for you but this is a tried and true strategy. People buy dedicated DRM machines to get access to exclusive games all the time.
The answer could actually be much simpler. Last I checked horizon zero Dawn sold over 3 million units on steam which is nowhere near what they sold on PlayStation systems.
I wonder what the cost of porting a game that size is these days, because a few million copies may not be enough to float the endeavor.
Horizon was like years after release, and even if it’s a first time launch on another platform just by virtue of people having already had to wait the same hype isn’t going to be there to buy it.
But then when a game launched at the same time such as Helldivers 2, PC outsold the PS5.
https://tech4gamers.com/helldivers-2-sold-more-on-pc-than-ps5/
You forgot to mention that it was ported years after its initial launch. Porting is way cheaper than developing especially nowadays where we have basically the same architecture in a dedicated DRM machine (console) than in a Personal Computer, it’s basically a x86 APU running a proprietary fork of BSD (and Windows for xBox). It’s not like back in the days where each machine (pc or console) had there own architectures that could radically differ. Also Game Engines have feature backs-in, Vulkan is universal (and better than DirectX (Microsoft) or OpenGL). Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised that selling 3M copies on Steam alone at a 50% discount would still be a profitable porting.
Porting and developing are not my jobs DYOR.
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I waited so long for Horizon Zero Dawn that when it came out on PC I wasn’t really interested any more. Probably will pick it up someday, but it turns out you can get by just fine without PS exclusives.
That’s probably for the best.
I got it at launch and it was a buggy unoptimized piece of shit.
I couldn’t get more than 15 minutes without a crash, and you only save at bonfires so…
Yeah not gonna lie, I’m in that same boat. Looked interesting when initially announced but by the time I could get it on PC all the hype was gone.
I like that the whole article is based on another journalist’s hunch and speculation.
This one actually bothers me because I was looking forward to Ghost of Yotei, but if Sony are still so allergic to making money, I guess I won’t give them any. Barely a handful of games from an entire generation is certainly not enough to make me buy an overpriced console.
Why? It’s even more generic Ubisoft The Game than what ubisoft has been doing…
Do you enjoy endless open world map markers?
I don’t like all the Checkpoint Charlie bullshit and got fed up with the side content before the main story was over, but the world in Tsushima was so well made that I had a good time in it - far better than AC: Shadows (that I didn’t pay to play, for the record) - and the combat system was fun. Yotei has a character that isn’t forced into the peg hole of a samurai and has a greater selection of weapons so it looks like it’ll be a fun time.
People are allowed to like different things than you. You don’t need to be negative about it.
I haven’t played Yotei yet, but I loved Tsushima. The world was gorgeous and felt rather alive, the activities didn’t overstay their welcome for me, I loved the setting, characters, and plot.
The fact you took it as negatively as you did, is more telling on you than me.
Or are you disputing the fact every sony game is open world following ubisoft formula?
“The fact that you disagree with me is proof that I’m right”
This isn’t reddit my dude, you should know that with your fancy green M letter.
People take that comment personally, I can’t help that.
I always find that response so odd. Do you tailor your tone to the platform your on? Because if so that’s… just kinda weird to me.
Your last sentence also reeks of “I’m brutally honest, if you can’t handle that it isn’t my problem” which is just… ew.
I don’t, if I wanted to be on reddit, it’d post there. But also, quit fucking projecting my dude.
damn I kinda want ghost of yotei :/
Cool, guess I’ll just emulate them for free then! I was getting kind of tired of giving Sony my money anyways.
I can believe they will try to reinstate PSN account requirements in their existing PC ports again, but I don’t see them losing a revenue stream. Unless Steam alters the deal themselves, that would be unbelievably stupid for Sony.
Oh no, what will I do without shitty AAA titles?
Horizon games were killer though. Last Of Us were great, I hear.
Last of Us Part 1 and 2 are genuine masterpieces. Highly recommend!
Might get them! Thanks for the recommendation!
I’m trying so hard to get into the first one but I’m so bad at stealth, it’s not going well
You’ll get better with practice!
I normally don’t like stealth games really, or at least, I’m not good at them. Didn’t really impact my enjoyment of the games though.
Never played 2 but 1 is the most over hyped game in existence. The gameplay is mid as fuck and the “OMG story” is just B movie horror at best.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that one friend.
Horizon is just yet another open world slop. Not even robo dinos make it palatable. Even the latest god of war was just so brain dead boring, the story wasn’t enough to make me keep playing.
God of War bored me as well, but the Horizon games being SLOP?! I’m personally offended. They are carefully created masterpieces in my opinion.
The way they perfectly amp up the difficulty in proportion to your skill level. You can go anywhere in the world but it guides you perfectly to go where your skill fits. The fights are fun, you can choose to be stealthy or go all in Rambo style.
That first feeling of analyzing a new animal for the first time, planning your strategy ahead of the fight, what parts to attack etc. Then the feeling of jumping in and executing the fight with success. So satisfying.
I personally took on every single fight stealth wise because I love that style.
But anyway, what kind of games do you play that you think are good enough? Curious what your bar is set to.
Robot dinos are well made. I’m not disputing that. It’s the only reason I put up with it for 16h… But I got bored to death with the same open world formula.
As for where my bar is set? I enjoy games like red dead 2 or space marine 2 from recent memory. But my go to are mods and older RPGs, Gothic 2 is gold standard to me. Games like Rogue Trader from owlcats etc. I enjoy depth and hand crafted nature. Hence games like kingdom come rank high on my list for believable world building with memorable characters. I don’t recall a single name from my 16h with horrison…
God of war (the remake) did it well to keep focus on characters and story as opposed to “clutter” and massive open world filled with markers.
I’m fine with a bland story as long as the gameplay is solid. The gameplay is why I play. If I wanted only story I would watch a movie, I suppose.
But you say you played 16h of Horizon? You must not have finished it, or? I played it for 123 hours. Granted I finished it 100%, and did a loooot of gathering and exploring. But 16h feels low for completing all of the main story. I don’t know.
I don’t need to finish something to make up my mind. The game isn’t going to flip on its head 30h in. 16h is more than enough, hell, steam cuts it at 2h for refund.
It’s just that the game has a narrative and game-mechanical progression which you are losing if you don’t follow through.
The 2h threshold for a refund doesn’t really suit every game of course, it’s a blanket threshold for the entire store. 🙂
But meh, you made up your mind, no point in trying to convince you to play it now. I’m just saying it’s a game that might grow on you even more than you realize. I looked it immediately, but even I was amazed at the beautiful scenery and great battles I was going to experience even further into the game. The expansions were awesome as well. Really good end game boss battles.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the games you have access to!
16h barely feels like enough to even get the story started… No wonder they didn’t enjoy it after giving up probably in the first area. Kinda brain-dead opinion tbh. The story in horizon was incredible and even if you ignored every side mission or collectible and just played the campaign there’s a ton of variety in the gameplay and environments.
Fully agree. I can’t imagine quitting at 16h. Adventure games must not be for them. 🤷♂️
I lived Horizon Zero Dawn. The story grabbed me and brought me on a wild ride of discovery and intrigue. I also enjoyed the second one though the mystery didn’t get me quite as much as the first. I will be happy to play the third one if it comes to PC and I guess I’ll skip it if not.
I never played TLOU1 or 2 because they came to PC too late.
I have really appreciated games coming to PC like GOD OF WAR, Horizon, and FF7 remake but if they never came to PC I would just have continued never playing them. And if the next installments don’t come to PC I won’t play them either
Watch an actual movie with real writers and actors instead of “playing” an interactive movie with shit writing and bad CGI that is only praised by internet philistines because they need their hobby to have cultural relevance very badly?
Yeah! Probably!
Sour grapes
Shit I guess I wont be paying them twice to play the same game on ps5 and then PC a year later.
I’m pretty sure I don’t own, let alone have played, any of their titles in the past. Guess I’ll keep just doing that?