So what alternative to Discord are we switching to? I’m geniunely asking because my server is an 18+ Roleplay Server and members have been asking what we’re moving to… And we don’t really have an answer for them.
I’ve been encouraging everyone to add me on Telegram so we can keep in touch, but Telegram doesn’t allow it in the ToS for you make 18+ Only Groups
The problem is that there isn’t really anywhere to Exodus to. I already know people here on Lemmy are going to say Matrix but that’s just not an option. It’s trash, the protocol was designed by idiot neck beards that have never heard the term UX. Pretty much everything was done in a way that while technically speaking is efficient makes it unbelievably tedious to actually use and in some cases just outright annoying ensuring that users will never want to use it. Most recent example is forcing device verification, it is technically correct, it is better from a security standpoint it is better from a verifiability standpoint. But for the average user who could not give less of a shit about that it is nothing more than something that pisses them off and annoys them every single time they open the application because despite the fact that they should be remembering at least in my testing it almost never does and I have to put in my stupid key every single God damn time especially if I’m using it in the browser.
Teamspeakers trying to rebuild itself to be more Discord like but it’s still in early beta and not at all ready for it so that’s not an option, and everything else is pretty much either just as shit or just as likely to implement this tomorrow as Discord
It’s hard to get away from consolidation. I see things like Stoat getting popular, though it looks like development slowed down?
Teamspeak works fine, most use Discord as a voice and quick text app rather than a social network anyway. And honestly the whole “forum” aspect of Discord needs to rot anyway, perhaps this would stop companies relying on Discord as their news and support outlet, because fuck that.
Discord always felt way overbuilt to me for a text/voice chat and screen sharing app. Same problem with Teams and others; they aren’t forums, stop trying to make them replace forums.
I wonder if they’ll take into account that, had I signed up at (the youngest possible age of) 13, the age of my account would then make me 21. I suppose they can’t really sell that inferred data…
Did they edit the article or am I maybe just blind? I don’t see metadata being mentioned anywhere in the article or in the original Discord announcement. I even did a ctrl+f on meta, and nothing came up.
It looks interesting. Do you know if I as a user can join multiple groups? Because I am part of a few servers on Discrod with widely different topics and its not an option to have one community and have all people join there.
Matrix is not going to catch on. It is too intense for the average person. My friend didn’t want to bother with all the security features and couldn’t sign in without issue constantly.
Screen share, specifically with low latency, is a huge feature thats really widely used. Everything from watching videos together, to playing RPGs via the shared screen, to coaching esports games. When I tried Matrix before (like a year ago) the multi-second latency on screen sharing was what made me give up on it.
Matrix is no where near the level of discord, if all you need is a chat app than ya sure, simplex or Matrix work great. If you want feature parity… Definitely not either of those two, as they are just glorified sms/group text apps.
Well don’t downvote the comment that answered your question. If you’re looking for something that’s exactly exactly exactly Z, then the answer will only ever be Z
You’re getting downvoted because your answer was bad. Slack isn’t “not exactly like discord”, slack is not even remotely close to a replacement for discord unless you are only considering text based lobbies. Slack is built around enterprise IM as a paid service, discord is built around gaming voice chat as a free service.
If someone says that they want to replace their Tesla and you offer a golf cart to them while saying, “they’re both electric, so same difference”, don’t be surprised by others finding that unhelpful.
Slack requires payment for messages to persist over 90 days. We used to use Slack for an organization I’m part of. We moved to Discord when that was introduced which is kinda funny.
There definitely needs to be a social pressure to drop discord, I propose that there needs to be some level of social stigma around using or liking discord. Like for example if someone says they prefer discord or like its look and features and promote people to verify or even buy Discord Nitro, call them a discord bro or similar negative quip (we can find the names and phrases in due time).
If that sounds too harsh consider that if someone said they like to use chatGPT and prefer to use it, a lot of people would call them AI bros for that. It isn’t much different. Social stigma is a powerful motive. Especially for creators and for platforms where PR is of utmost importance.
Like if Discord usage is stigmatized we can go from discord API logins on community sites and projects to them never even acknowledging discord exists. That’s what will drive change, not inconvenience, not privacy violations by discord, or even good intentions on their part. Shame that loses people’s respect for them.
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Discord was always an overhyped crap.
So what alternative to Discord are we switching to? I’m geniunely asking because my server is an 18+ Roleplay Server and members have been asking what we’re moving to… And we don’t really have an answer for them.
I’ve been encouraging everyone to add me on Telegram so we can keep in touch, but Telegram doesn’t allow it in the ToS for you make 18+ Only Groups
XMPP, IRC, Matrix or Stoat.
Microsoft Teams
Teamspeak still exists
Ewww. Discord? More like Discard
I can’t wait for people to get back to IRC!
Get back? I never left.
The whole internet is adult-by-default, so why are we doing any sort of age verification?
But please Discord, keep ruining the platform, cause an exodus.
The problem is that there isn’t really anywhere to Exodus to. I already know people here on Lemmy are going to say Matrix but that’s just not an option. It’s trash, the protocol was designed by idiot neck beards that have never heard the term UX. Pretty much everything was done in a way that while technically speaking is efficient makes it unbelievably tedious to actually use and in some cases just outright annoying ensuring that users will never want to use it. Most recent example is forcing device verification, it is technically correct, it is better from a security standpoint it is better from a verifiability standpoint. But for the average user who could not give less of a shit about that it is nothing more than something that pisses them off and annoys them every single time they open the application because despite the fact that they should be remembering at least in my testing it almost never does and I have to put in my stupid key every single God damn time especially if I’m using it in the browser.
Teamspeakers trying to rebuild itself to be more Discord like but it’s still in early beta and not at all ready for it so that’s not an option, and everything else is pretty much either just as shit or just as likely to implement this tomorrow as Discord
It’s hard to get away from consolidation. I see things like Stoat getting popular, though it looks like development slowed down?
Teamspeak works fine, most use Discord as a voice and quick text app rather than a social network anyway. And honestly the whole “forum” aspect of Discord needs to rot anyway, perhaps this would stop companies relying on Discord as their news and support outlet, because fuck that.
Hoping discord pulls a windows and enshitifies so completely that people finally abandon it
Except trans children. Don’t think of them. Apparently.
Good. Maybe we can stop using a transient digital bathroom wall as a primary system of information distribution.
Discord always felt way overbuilt to me for a text/voice chat and screen sharing app. Same problem with Teams and others; they aren’t forums, stop trying to make them replace forums.
British people right now :
Cool.
The restrictions won’t change what little I use it for, but it might piss off some of my friends who are deep in the discord rabbit hole.
If they did it right they would grandfather older accounts And start with new(er) accounts. But we know that is not the goal.
Yeah my account is 9 years old, doesn’t make sense unless I was 8 when I made the account.
Discord age-verification bot: “Your account is nine years old, and nine-year-olds are too young to use Discord. Terminating account.”
I wonder if they’ll take into account that, had I signed up at (the youngest possible age of) 13, the age of my account would then make me 21. I suppose they can’t really sell that inferred data…
You could have lied then too and not been 13 at the time
I’m actually seven right now. 👶
Impressive online skills for a second grader
The article says they may check metadata to verify users as well, so as far as I can tell, they will take that into account.
Did they edit the article or am I maybe just blind? I don’t see metadata being mentioned anywhere in the article or in the original Discord announcement. I even did a ctrl+f on meta, and nothing came up.
Oh dang no this article didn’t, the one from the Verge mentioned it: https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out
Sorry I read 2-3 articles about this and mixed up which ones mentioned what.
Ah, thanks a lot for the link! I appreciate it. They really should put that information into their official announcement as well.
I would love to have an alternative to which some of the communities I am currently in can migrate. Not easy to find anything that is like Discord.
Zulip is good.
It looks interesting. Do you know if I as a user can join multiple groups? Because I am part of a few servers on Discrod with widely different topics and its not an option to have one community and have all people join there.
I’ve been told to try Stoat a lot today, but the Discord news seems to have hugged their signup system to death.
Well thats good and bad at the same time. I will try today as well. Maybe Stoat can get a critical number of users going to get this really started.
Matrix is a possibility but its sometimes a bit of a hard sell to people.
I’ve used Matrix and it’s… a bit unwieldy to say the least.
yeah, was going to say I think Matrix is the reasonable alternative
Matrix is not going to catch on. It is too intense for the average person. My friend didn’t want to bother with all the security features and couldn’t sign in without issue constantly.
That’s only really a problem if it’s end to end encrypted right?
I dont know if Stoat (ex Revolt) is as good but it seems to be the most direct competitor
Yeah looks like it. Thanks. Maybe I take a closer look at that one.
I feel like a modern IRC client would cover it wouldn’t it? What am I missing?
My friends tell me it’s screen share that they want and why Mumble etc. won’t cut it.
Screen share, specifically with low latency, is a huge feature thats really widely used. Everything from watching videos together, to playing RPGs via the shared screen, to coaching esports games. When I tried Matrix before (like a year ago) the multi-second latency on screen sharing was what made me give up on it.
Teamspeak3 still works fine for me
Slack is basically the same thing as a platform
Slack needs payment to have group calls. Also it would be nice to move something open and ideally something self-hosted.
matrix maybe?
Matrix is no where near the level of discord, if all you need is a chat app than ya sure, simplex or Matrix work great. If you want feature parity… Definitely not either of those two, as they are just glorified sms/group text apps.
Plus there’s the fact that Matrix is heavily user unfriendly
Well don’t downvote the comment that answered your question. If you’re looking for something that’s exactly exactly exactly Z, then the answer will only ever be Z
You’re getting downvoted because your answer was bad. Slack isn’t “not exactly like discord”, slack is not even remotely close to a replacement for discord unless you are only considering text based lobbies. Slack is built around enterprise IM as a paid service, discord is built around gaming voice chat as a free service.
If someone says that they want to replace their Tesla and you offer a golf cart to them while saying, “they’re both electric, so same difference”, don’t be surprised by others finding that unhelpful.
Believe it or not. I did not downvote you. Seems crazy but there are other people here and promoting Slack seems to be a not so popular opinion.
Slack requires payment for messages to persist over 90 days. We used to use Slack for an organization I’m part of. We moved to Discord when that was introduced which is kinda funny.
Aw mah gawd thats VENTRILO music!
There definitely needs to be a social pressure to drop discord, I propose that there needs to be some level of social stigma around using or liking discord. Like for example if someone says they prefer discord or like its look and features and promote people to verify or even buy Discord Nitro, call them a discord bro or similar negative quip (we can find the names and phrases in due time). If that sounds too harsh consider that if someone said they like to use chatGPT and prefer to use it, a lot of people would call them AI bros for that. It isn’t much different. Social stigma is a powerful motive. Especially for creators and for platforms where PR is of utmost importance.
Like if Discord usage is stigmatized we can go from discord API logins on community sites and projects to them never even acknowledging discord exists. That’s what will drive change, not inconvenience, not privacy violations by discord, or even good intentions on their part. Shame that loses people’s respect for them.
Well fock Discord AM I RIGHT? Use Matrix or some shat fuck slavery
Can we NOT use Matrix? It’s way too user unfriendly.
You can say fuck or shit, ya know.
Oh ok hahah
realizes this isnt Hitlers reddit
Right
Think of their platform!
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