Yeah it’s not supported for my system so I can’t even launch it. But I was watching some friends stream it and it crashed for three out of four of them within two games. I don’t think any of us will be getting it after release.
There’s lots they could do to minimise cheaters that they’re not doing. The main one being not sending the cheaters information in the first place.
The wall hack cheat works because for some bizarre reason the server sends players information about the position of other players they can’t possibly see, players on the other side of the map for example, there’s no reason for the client to have that information. The cheaters cannot access information that isn’t given to them.
I agree that only sending absolute needed data is a great policy for stopping all sorts of cheating. I could see them skipping this step if they don’t have a way of doing it fast enough that won’t cause other issues like player pop in. That’s what it’s have to assume.
Counter-counterpoint: Linux users are no users if a game is brimming with cheaters. Who the fuck plays a competitive multiplayer game full of cheaters only because it runs on Linux?
If we had private dedicated servers and the ability to play without anti-cheat, Linux support would be a non-issue. But because we don’t have that, anti-cheat is seen as a necessity, and we don’t have Linux support.
That’s true. My machine doesn’t have a TPM. I understand they are trying to make things easier for their team, but I agree I’d rather have wider support.
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Will, you know what they say, “Nature will find a way.”.
But… but… the secureboot requirement and the anticheat were supposed to make the game free of cheaters!!i
Yeah it’s not supported for my system so I can’t even launch it. But I was watching some friends stream it and it crashed for three out of four of them within two games. I don’t think any of us will be getting it after release.
It can help prevent various methods commonly used, but nothing can stop cheating. All you can do is minimise it.
There’s lots they could do to minimise cheaters that they’re not doing. The main one being not sending the cheaters information in the first place.
The wall hack cheat works because for some bizarre reason the server sends players information about the position of other players they can’t possibly see, players on the other side of the map for example, there’s no reason for the client to have that information. The cheaters cannot access information that isn’t given to them.
Hopefully this beta is the feedback they need to plug these holes and block that kind of data for the full release
I agree that only sending absolute needed data is a great policy for stopping all sorts of cheating. I could see them skipping this step if they don’t have a way of doing it fast enough that won’t cause other issues like player pop in. That’s what it’s have to assume.
Counterpoint: you could not have TPM and secure boot requirements that needlessly alienates a large player base of Linux users.
Counter-counterpoint: Linux users are no users if a game is brimming with cheaters. Who the fuck plays a competitive multiplayer game full of cheaters only because it runs on Linux?
Every game has cheaters. If we could run our own servers, we could decide who we play with.
So you’re not asking for Linux support, but custom dedicated server support?
If we had private dedicated servers and the ability to play without anti-cheat, Linux support would be a non-issue. But because we don’t have that, anti-cheat is seen as a necessity, and we don’t have Linux support.
I don’t understand this point.
Linux does support TPM and secure boot: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot.3F
I thought the problem for Linux players was “just” the kernel anticheat ?
That’s true. My machine doesn’t have a TPM. I understand they are trying to make things easier for their team, but I agree I’d rather have wider support.
Let people run their own servers, allow blacklists and whitelists. Enable instant replay and let mods van cheaters.
Problem fucking solved.
But won’t you think of the profits!
That’s not going to solve cheating either, but I do prefer dedicated servers in general.
It will result in cheaters getting instantly identified and banned so then it’ll be less fun for them, and they’re less likely to do it.
I wish it was that simple but it’s not.
The problem with turning off cross play on Xbox is if they access through the game bar or game pass it treats it the same as the console.
better to just turn the game off, refund it if you can and never buy their crap again.
The beta is free
still not worth it…