Is there any way to avoid them yoinking all my data? Just me and my friends loved playing it but with the new EULA ive been reluctant to reinstall. I run Linux and my friends hppefully will be soon too.
I’ve seen advice to turn the firewall on, but that would probably mess up any multiplayer.
Tbh I just started playing Unciv instead, which is an open-source recreation of Civ V + G&K, with a BNW mod already existing.
AFAIK, there are mods that add Civ VI rules as well. It’s been great for me because you can play it on your phone, so you can start a Marathon game with your friends and just crack out a few turns throughout the day.
From what I understand, these are the data types their EULA allows them to collect:
• Identifiers / Contact Information: Name, user name, gamertag, postal and email address, phone number, unique IDs, mobile device ID, platform ID, gaming service ID, advertising ID (IDFA, Android ID) and IP address
• Protected Characteristics: Age and gender
• Commercial Information: Purchase and usage history and preferences, including gameplay information
• Billing Information: Payment information (credit / debit card information) and shipping address
• Internet / Electronic Activity: Web / app browsing and gameplay information related to the Services; information about your online interaction(s) with the Services or our advertising; and details about the games and platforms you use and other information related to installed applications
• Device and Usage Data: Device type, software and hardware details, language settings, browser type and version, operating system, and information about how users use and interact with the Services (e.g., content viewed, pages visited, clicks, scrolls)
• Profile Inferences: Inferences made from your information and web activity to help create a personalized profile so we can identify goods and services that may be of interest
• Audio / Visual Information: Account photos, images, and avatars, audio information via chat features and functionality, and gameplay recordings and video footage (such as when you participate in playtesting)
• Sensitive Information: Precise location information (if you allow the Services to collect your location), account credentials (user name and password), and contents of communications via chat features and functionality.
Now, this may not be any more egregious than other big corpo EULAs, but I really don’t want Take2/2K to have a full profile on me in their database.
That is a matter of opinion ofc… When it comes to mod development, they are by far, the best company I have ever seen. I even had the chance to talk with some of the game developers, when I was modding 2 of their games, and hey were very very willing to engage with the community. One of the games I modded was XCOM2, and they practically gave you EVERYTHING. You could almost compile the whole game on your own, such was the extent of the tools they provided (which was built over UDK 3). And when compared to other companies like Bethesda, they are light-years ahead.
What is in your opinion, specifically that makes them a company with “shitty development”? Care to elaborate? For someone with so much certainty about the topic, surely you most know how the games are developed and how the development tools work. Eager to engage in this discussion, in great detail!
Not as far as I know. I haven’t played the latest update but I did a full playthrough on the last one and I finished it but it was such a slog. It’s like the opposite of the other Civ games, where you sit down for 5 minutes and lose an hour, with 7 you sit down and go “right, I’ll play for an hour” and then you check the time and it’s only been 10 minutes lol.
I played and enjoyed it so much I bought the Platinum edition…on Steam, because it was cheaper there. (And other reasons, but this was the biggest one)
One of the few games I actually went out and bought thanks to Epic. I feel slightly bad for not buying from them, lol
I did the same thing with Surviving Mars lol. Played it on Epic, liked it, bought the whole thing and all the DLC on Steam. Actually I did that with Dredge too now that I think about it.
Eh, I play everything through Heroic. I haven’t paid a dime to EGS, but I’ve claimed a fair number of games, so they just live alongside my GOG purchases.
I and many others agree. But I got like 75 games for free off there. Only played like 3 of them lol but I think of it as my backup if anything happens with steam.
Well, it’s downloaded and installed, I got a cold Sierra Nevada Pale Ale pounder in the fridge, no work this evening, and it’s pouring rain outside. I think it’s time to give it a go.
Worth it just to get your socks blown off by the opening theme, if nothing else.
It’s not the best Civ has ever been, but RomanHoliday’s AI rework seemed to mostly resolve the biggest problem I had with it, which was the AI falling apart by the Renaissance.
I know that many ppl disliked 6, but honestly? I liked it more than 5, and I’ve been playing Civ since the first one, back in the 90’s. 5 for me was the biggest shock, because it introduced the hex map, and military units introduced that movement control rules, and you could no longer do stacks of doom!
With 6, I was already a bit more conformed with all the limitations, and while initially as most people, I disliked the 3D art, in the end, I actually learned to love it, and I feel that leaders were very lifelike, when it came to animations and facial expressions! For me that tops seeing leaders with crappy animations, which was what you had in 5 and apparently, now too with 7? I don’t own that one yet, but from what I saw, they look terrible.
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Just a warning, 2K’s new EULA is EXTREMELY invasive.
Is there any way to avoid them yoinking all my data? Just me and my friends loved playing it but with the new EULA ive been reluctant to reinstall. I run Linux and my friends hppefully will be soon too.
I’ve seen advice to turn the firewall on, but that would probably mess up any multiplayer.
Tbh I just started playing Unciv instead, which is an open-source recreation of Civ V + G&K, with a BNW mod already existing.
AFAIK, there are mods that add Civ VI rules as well. It’s been great for me because you can play it on your phone, so you can start a Marathon game with your friends and just crack out a few turns throughout the day.
Any exerpts worth mentioning?
From what I understand, these are the data types their EULA allows them to collect:
• Identifiers / Contact Information: Name, user name, gamertag, postal and email address, phone number, unique IDs, mobile device ID, platform ID, gaming service ID, advertising ID (IDFA, Android ID) and IP address
• Protected Characteristics: Age and gender
• Commercial Information: Purchase and usage history and preferences, including gameplay information
• Billing Information: Payment information (credit / debit card information) and shipping address
• Internet / Electronic Activity: Web / app browsing and gameplay information related to the Services; information about your online interaction(s) with the Services or our advertising; and details about the games and platforms you use and other information related to installed applications
• Device and Usage Data: Device type, software and hardware details, language settings, browser type and version, operating system, and information about how users use and interact with the Services (e.g., content viewed, pages visited, clicks, scrolls)
• Profile Inferences: Inferences made from your information and web activity to help create a personalized profile so we can identify goods and services that may be of interest
• Audio / Visual Information: Account photos, images, and avatars, audio information via chat features and functionality, and gameplay recordings and video footage (such as when you participate in playtesting)
• Sensitive Information: Precise location information (if you allow the Services to collect your location), account credentials (user name and password), and contents of communications via chat features and functionality.
Now, this may not be any more egregious than other big corpo EULAs, but I really don’t want Take2/2K to have a full profile on me in their database.
Just add the application to the firewall block list. That’s how I’ve been running most games these days, pirated or not. Sighs
The game I play the most lately is “Collect the free games”.
I know I shouldn’t encourage your addiction, but there’s [email protected] if you want to pump those numbers up
Just going to take a little peak
Just try it, first one’s free! And the second. And the third…
Play literally any other strategy game.
Don’t keep supporting Firaxis’ shitty development, even if it’s through fake player numbers.
That is a matter of opinion ofc… When it comes to mod development, they are by far, the best company I have ever seen. I even had the chance to talk with some of the game developers, when I was modding 2 of their games, and hey were very very willing to engage with the community. One of the games I modded was XCOM2, and they practically gave you EVERYTHING. You could almost compile the whole game on your own, such was the extent of the tools they provided (which was built over UDK 3). And when compared to other companies like Bethesda, they are light-years ahead.
What is in your opinion, specifically that makes them a company with “shitty development”? Care to elaborate? For someone with so much certainty about the topic, surely you most know how the games are developed and how the development tools work. Eager to engage in this discussion, in great detail!
Does Epic still scan yoir Steam account and steal all of your data?
Only if you let it.
How do you not let it?
Don’t connect your Steam account? Also, make your Steam profile private.
I see, the second one is not so obvious. Thanks!
I was really excited about this until I remembered that I actually already own Civ VI…
I just forgot. I guess I haven’t played in a while.
Better than VII!
Did 7 get any better with the updates? I bought it on release but it couldn’t hold my attention for more than an hour, and I haven’t been back.
It’s still infected with Denuvo malware, so even if the gameplay weren’t a disaster the answer would still be “no.”
Is it still worth a pirate?
Not as far as I know. I haven’t played the latest update but I did a full playthrough on the last one and I finished it but it was such a slog. It’s like the opposite of the other Civ games, where you sit down for 5 minutes and lose an hour, with 7 you sit down and go “right, I’ll play for an hour” and then you check the time and it’s only been 10 minutes lol.
I got the base game for free a few years ago.
I played and enjoyed it so much I bought the Platinum edition…on Steam, because it was cheaper there. (And other reasons, but this was the biggest one)
One of the few games I actually went out and bought thanks to Epic. I feel slightly bad for not buying from them, lol
I did the same thing with Surviving Mars lol. Played it on Epic, liked it, bought the whole thing and all the DLC on Steam. Actually I did that with Dredge too now that I think about it.
Epic. Ew
Eh, I play everything through Heroic. I haven’t paid a dime to EGS, but I’ve claimed a fair number of games, so they just live alongside my GOG purchases.
I and many others agree. But I got like 75 games for free off there. Only played like 3 of them lol but I think of it as my backup if anything happens with steam.
Thanks! I have Civ 5 on Steam, but I’ve never played 6.
If you like V you might not like VI. Probably more likely to enjoy the Vox Populi mod if you want something fresh.
I’ll give 6 a shot. The price is right.
That it is. Might as well, right?
Well, it’s downloaded and installed, I got a cold Sierra Nevada Pale Ale pounder in the fridge, no work this evening, and it’s pouring rain outside. I think it’s time to give it a go.
Worth it just to get your socks blown off by the opening theme, if nothing else.
It’s not the best Civ has ever been, but RomanHoliday’s AI rework seemed to mostly resolve the biggest problem I had with it, which was the AI falling apart by the Renaissance.
I know that many ppl disliked 6, but honestly? I liked it more than 5, and I’ve been playing Civ since the first one, back in the 90’s. 5 for me was the biggest shock, because it introduced the hex map, and military units introduced that movement control rules, and you could no longer do stacks of doom!
With 6, I was already a bit more conformed with all the limitations, and while initially as most people, I disliked the 3D art, in the end, I actually learned to love it, and I feel that leaders were very lifelike, when it came to animations and facial expressions! For me that tops seeing leaders with crappy animations, which was what you had in 5 and apparently, now too with 7? I don’t own that one yet, but from what I saw, they look terrible.
Civ 6 is worth playing… Watch out though. You’ll blink and suddenly have 1000 hours of play time.
I still play 5. Six wasn’t my cup of tea and 7 is still too new/expensive and - in the views of some people - even worse.
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