BL3 was generic and forgettable. BL4 anything more than 40$ is easily forgettable. Don’t these guys know most gamers have backlogs at this point? No one has the money for this shit.
I was just flabbergasted that they decided to make all of their perk trees boring and lame. I genuinely don’t remember anything about the characters other than disappointment.
Roland, Mordecai, Brick, Lilith: character design masterpieces. Distinct styles and strengths but not overly limited. Zer0, Salvador, Gage, Axton, Magic Chick 2: great, less type specialized but that’s not a bad thing.
Everyone else? Just walking gun stats. And not particularly fun ones.
Borderlands 3 had some of the best gameplay in any shooter I’ve played, story and difficulty be damned. Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands was back to form, despite its disappointing post-game and 3-room DLCs. The only reason I’m excited for 4 is because the gameplay looks solid and they’ve yet to tell a single joke.
I once paid $140 (just pre-pandemic inflation) for a meal with two drinks at a fancy restaurant for a friend’s bachelor party. It was delicious. At the same time, I realized that no one meal, no matter how good, was worth that price. I don’t know what the threshold is for how much I’ll pay for a single video game, but $80 is more palatable to me when the game asking for it isn’t Mario Kart.
I’d gladly pay 80 bucks for games, Ive paid way more than that in 40K, Warmahordes and Advanced Squad Leader.
If digital games would give me the same kind of “ownership”, like full access to the code and free reign to modify the rules sets as well as spreading those changes to friends and strangers I wouldn’t hesitate to spend similar amounts. However digital games, even physical on disks, has too many limitations as riders for that price to be motivated
I wish we lived in a world close to that one, and maybe someday we’ll get there. Guilty Gear Strive’s source code just got leaked in its entirety, so complete that it can just be loaded as is into the Unreal editor, and a lot of people see this as a bad thing rather than the game ascending to immortality.
The Plus R community have been begging ArcSys to release the source code for a long time—hopefully, this will push them to reconsider their stance on open source.
But is it any good? Just because the budget is higher doesn’t mean it’s good. I didn’t like the story and writing of 3 but the rest of the game I enjoyed. I’m kinda expecting the same, hopefully. Every AAA release somehow gets worse every year tho
I could look past the story and enjoy the gameplay. But the game itself still sucked and was very empty. A few months after launch they did an event where each week a different planet had a lot event and you could target items. 3 of the planets only had one or two areas to even farm decent numbers. Most of the game is empty.
Combine that with my own personal issue with Gearbox removing the official forums, (which had years of builds and information going back to BL1) and a certain YouTuber stealing content and using modded weapons and then denying it. I have no interest in BL4.
The old gearbox is dead. Even watching the video it just looks like reused skills. Oh look another character that puts enemies into floating balls, how original.
the thing while yes, inflation will make things more expensive, the more expensive things become the less folks will just spend on random entertainment. they will have to use their money more deliberately and frugally.
and the problem with games are that there are many free and cheaper alternatives. if you wanna game you can just spend less and still game and have fun.
if you wanna go to the cinema it pretty much costs what it costs so you might go less often or buy less popcorn but you won’t skip one movie because it’s more expensive than another.
you can just skip full price AAA games. buy them on sales, play games you already have, play free to play games, emulate retro games, play indie games.
I feel like we keep seeing this headline. “AAA studio says current prices can’t support current budgets”
I almost never buy games at $60. I buy everything on sale, and there are constantly sales and way more games than I can play. They can charge whatever they want, I personally will be paying less.
Will the market bear $80 games? Maybe. I feel like a better strategy would be to reign in scope and budget and sell games at prices most people can afford. But who knows?
Yeah, I joke with my friends that game quality is inversely correlated with install size. 100GB+ open world or multiplayer game? Probably mid. 50MB indie game? Probably stays installed for the next 10 years.
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If it might be 80$, it might be the only borderlands game I don’t buy.
Don’t get it twisted, I’ll still play it. But I sure as shit won’t be buying it.
I bought Borderlands for like $30.
I bought BL2 for $20.
I got BL3 for free. (Which in kinda glad. The story was so ass.)
Then I got Tiny Tina’s for like $5 from a bundle.
Borderlands series hasn’t earned the $80 price tag.
I’ve never spent more than $20 on a game 😂 like ever 😂 CEOs be crazy.
BL3 was generic and forgettable. BL4 anything more than 40$ is easily forgettable. Don’t these guys know most gamers have backlogs at this point? No one has the money for this shit.
The more I think about it, maybe it’s for the whales of PC gaming.
Let the streamers, YouTubers and FOMO folks pay a premium to do all the bug testing.
Then release a polished version for half the price.
A person like me with a massive backlog is absolutely going to wait until this hits less than $20 anyways.
My wishlist is long and at least one game on it gets a deep discount every week. I’m busy playing games between 2€-20€.
There hasn’t been a major release that would justify paying 50€ and more for years.
Baldurs Gate 3 was the last game I got at full price and didn’t regret.
B1 was fun and interesting, B2 was brilliant, BTPS was fun, but slightly less so than B2, B3 was just annoying cringe.
And yeah, I played through all the games to completion including the DLCs.
I was just flabbergasted that they decided to make all of their perk trees boring and lame. I genuinely don’t remember anything about the characters other than disappointment.
Roland, Mordecai, Brick, Lilith: character design masterpieces. Distinct styles and strengths but not overly limited. Zer0, Salvador, Gage, Axton, Magic Chick 2: great, less type specialized but that’s not a bad thing.
Everyone else? Just walking gun stats. And not particularly fun ones.
I don’t even remember bothering with the spec trees on B3.
I did play as Claptrap i B3 to get some variation, his special was just stupid
That’s pre-prequel not BL3.
Ah good catch!
I mixed it up, in BTPS I did indeed play as Claptrap the last time I played it, I played as Moze when I played B3
Borderlands 3 had some of the best gameplay in any shooter I’ve played, story and difficulty be damned. Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands was back to form, despite its disappointing post-game and 3-room DLCs. The only reason I’m excited for 4 is because the gameplay looks solid and they’ve yet to tell a single joke.
I never liked the gamplay in B3, though to be fair, I did grow up on UT2004, which other have told me is very floaty, so I may be biased on that…
I’ll enjoy buying it in 5 years during a Steam sale.
There’s an overabundance of games out there. I can wait.
Ok…… then do borderlands 1. That’s fine.
I once paid $140 (just pre-pandemic inflation) for a meal with two drinks at a fancy restaurant for a friend’s bachelor party. It was delicious. At the same time, I realized that no one meal, no matter how good, was worth that price. I don’t know what the threshold is for how much I’ll pay for a single video game, but $80 is more palatable to me when the game asking for it isn’t Mario Kart.
I’d gladly pay 80 bucks for games, Ive paid way more than that in 40K, Warmahordes and Advanced Squad Leader.
If digital games would give me the same kind of “ownership”, like full access to the code and free reign to modify the rules sets as well as spreading those changes to friends and strangers I wouldn’t hesitate to spend similar amounts. However digital games, even physical on disks, has too many limitations as riders for that price to be motivated
I wish we lived in a world close to that one, and maybe someday we’ll get there. Guilty Gear Strive’s source code just got leaked in its entirety, so complete that it can just be loaded as is into the Unreal editor, and a lot of people see this as a bad thing rather than the game ascending to immortality.
The Plus R community have been begging ArcSys to release the source code for a long time—hopefully, this will push them to reconsider their stance on open source.
“Initial sales fall short of predictions”
At this point i appreciate the heads up from all the studios. Makes not buying the games much easier if you don’t even get on the hype train.
Have any large developers ever made small high quality games? Or is that just not sustainable? I suppose the games would have to be repayable.
I don’t know if I will buy this game then.
Will it be yet another Borderlands game that I don’t buy until the GOTY edition goes on sale for less than $20? “It might be.”
Indeed.
I didn’t bother with 3 thanks to it’s stupid epic store exclusivity
Yeah, that was a bold strategy.
But is it any good? Just because the budget is higher doesn’t mean it’s good. I didn’t like the story and writing of 3 but the rest of the game I enjoyed. I’m kinda expecting the same, hopefully. Every AAA release somehow gets worse every year tho
I could look past the story and enjoy the gameplay. But the game itself still sucked and was very empty. A few months after launch they did an event where each week a different planet had a lot event and you could target items. 3 of the planets only had one or two areas to even farm decent numbers. Most of the game is empty.
Combine that with my own personal issue with Gearbox removing the official forums, (which had years of builds and information going back to BL1) and a certain YouTuber stealing content and using modded weapons and then denying it. I have no interest in BL4.
The old gearbox is dead. Even watching the video it just looks like reused skills. Oh look another character that puts enemies into floating balls, how original.
the thing while yes, inflation will make things more expensive, the more expensive things become the less folks will just spend on random entertainment. they will have to use their money more deliberately and frugally.
and the problem with games are that there are many free and cheaper alternatives. if you wanna game you can just spend less and still game and have fun.
if you wanna go to the cinema it pretty much costs what it costs so you might go less often or buy less popcorn but you won’t skip one movie because it’s more expensive than another.
you can just skip full price AAA games. buy them on sales, play games you already have, play free to play games, emulate retro games, play indie games.
Exactly. Also it’s way costlier to set up a hone theatre at home compared to buying a cheap gaming laptop and play indie oe competitive fps games.
I feel like we keep seeing this headline. “AAA studio says current prices can’t support current budgets”
I almost never buy games at $60. I buy everything on sale, and there are constantly sales and way more games than I can play. They can charge whatever they want, I personally will be paying less.
Will the market bear $80 games? Maybe. I feel like a better strategy would be to reign in scope and budget and sell games at prices most people can afford. But who knows?
Yeah, and half the time I prefer the games that were originally $20-$40 MSRP that I bought 50% off.
Yeah, I joke with my friends that game quality is inversely correlated with install size. 100GB+ open world or multiplayer game? Probably mid. 50MB indie game? Probably stays installed for the next 10 years.
So $89.99 then.
Special edition with a 6" plastic Temu tat figurine and 1000 FREE BorderBucks will be $249.99.
I’ve been buying $80 for years thanks to being Canadian!
Now it’ll be $110!