Stalker 2 has made me look back and realize that maybe it was a mistake to make Epic Games' Unreal Engine 5 become an industry standard for the next decade.
Ironically remnant 2 runs like ass, for me anyway. 2k 16:9 resolution with a 3090 and modern ryzen cpu (forgot which one exactly atm but it cost a lot lmao)
Honestly, the only UE5 engine game I have played that has run like ass, is Stalker 2. And, I mean… They made this game while fighting a fucking war, so some slack has to be cut.
I think the biggest issue this engine has is just how many features there are. There are probably at least four ways to get any given job done, and sometimes there isn’t even a clear best option.
I have lots of gripes with the engine but they can be summarized as “it’s just too big”
No wonder games aren’t properly optimized when UE tries to replace a dozen established tools.
It’s not UE5, it’s the nvidia partnership. Every time NVIDIA engineers touch a game, the end result runs like absolute garbage. Stalker is just the latest example! The main issue of UE5 is the shader compilation.
But shader compilation issues are still not inherently a UE5 problem.
Traversal stutters however is, as it has been demonstrated that there is something seriously wrong with how the engine syncs its supporting functions (like animation and world transition)
The traversal stutters occur regardless of what kind of rig you got. You can run Silent Hill on a monster machine and it will still stutter, at least as it is currently late 2024.
If it’s running 5.0-5.2, you should be worried. And most all games released to date are from this range. Devs could upgrade to 5.3+, the one they finally optimized it on. it’s not all on Epic
I wonder if we’ll see remasters or definitive editions in coming years for games released with older versions. Nanite foliage might be a lot of work I guess.
A big part of the problem hasn’t been the engine. The problem has been that games that made the fact that they were using Unreal Engine 5 a core part of their marketing did so because they had fuckall else worth saying, tying perception of the engine to a bunch of truly mid games.
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Um. BS. I have a 1080 and Remnant 2 plays fantastic on my machine. It’s not UE5 which is the problem
Or Hellblade 2. It looks and runs phenomenally on the Steam Deck. And I’ve never seen a modern game with loading times so short.
Yeah I was about to say … anyone that’s got a problem with UE5 should take a look at Remnant II.
Ironically remnant 2 runs like ass, for me anyway. 2k 16:9 resolution with a 3090 and modern ryzen cpu (forgot which one exactly atm but it cost a lot lmao)
And also 5.5’s new lighting reflection system is a big deal for UE
Honestly, the only UE5 engine game I have played that has run like ass, is Stalker 2. And, I mean… They made this game while fighting a fucking war, so some slack has to be cut.
I think the biggest issue this engine has is just how many features there are. There are probably at least four ways to get any given job done, and sometimes there isn’t even a clear best option. I have lots of gripes with the engine but they can be summarized as “it’s just too big” No wonder games aren’t properly optimized when UE tries to replace a dozen established tools.
It’s not UE5, it’s the nvidia partnership. Every time NVIDIA engineers touch a game, the end result runs like absolute garbage. Stalker is just the latest example! The main issue of UE5 is the shader compilation.
It isn’t! Where did you get that from?!
Digital Foundry recently did a tech review of Stalker 2 showing the game is heavily CPU-limited…
I think they’re talking about the constant shader compilation on every launch. The Finals has that issue as well.
But shader compilation issues are still not inherently a UE5 problem.
Traversal stutters however is, as it has been demonstrated that there is something seriously wrong with how the engine syncs its supporting functions (like animation and world transition)
Is that cpu related or does it occur regardless of power?
The traversal stutters occur regardless of what kind of rig you got. You can run Silent Hill on a monster machine and it will still stutter, at least as it is currently late 2024.
If it’s running 5.0-5.2, you should be worried. And most all games released to date are from this range. Devs could upgrade to 5.3+, the one they finally optimized it on. it’s not all on Epic
And 5.4 fixed a bunch of major issues from 5.3, particularly for artists.
I wonder if we’ll see remasters or definitive editions in coming years for games released with older versions. Nanite foliage might be a lot of work I guess.
A big part of the problem hasn’t been the engine. The problem has been that games that made the fact that they were using Unreal Engine 5 a core part of their marketing did so because they had fuckall else worth saying, tying perception of the engine to a bunch of truly mid games.
The engine itself is clearly optimised to build fortnite and everything else needs to bend it to suit any other style of game.