Maybe Valve needs to stop pushing updates for things they certified working until they certify the update won’t break them.
Never understood why Steam forces updates, but this would be a very good reason for them to do a 180 on it and let customers choose the version they want instead of forcing an update to the latest.
On the one hand, BF1 was never advertised as being Linux compatible.
On the other hand, EA has retroactively changed the terms of the sale in such a way that breaks the game, ruins the experience, solves nothing, has extremely questionable security implications, and you who paid for the game did not consent to.
Personally I think they should have to refund games for this and Valve needs to put their foot down and be good stewards for the community.
It doesn’t just do nothing. They know for sure it does nothing, is not theoretically capable of doing more than nothing to prevent cheating, and that it is a giant security hole.
They just don’t care, because it lets them install a rootkit on your computer.
Honestly Valve needs to have a policy for this. If a game that once worked on Steamdeck and now no longer works after publisher intervention then refunds need to be issued. I have BF2042, BFV and BF1 and 1 was the LAST one I could still play on Linux. Now I have 3 digital paperweights that I can’t play anymore. I want my money back.
If a game that once worked on Steamdeck and now no longer works after publisher intervention then refunds need to be issued.
If it’s up to me I would leave SteamDeck out of it altogether. If the publisher changes the terms of sale in any way, it should be refundable. But at the very least, if you bought it on SteamDeck and it later stops working on SD, I would agree and would add that as well. But Valve would have a hard time enforcing that against the publisher since, again, it was never advertised as supported by anyone but Valve.
Of course, then we have to have a deeper discussion about things like game-breaking updates, so ultimately Valve needs to serve as not only legislator but as the judge, jury and executioner as well.
This is why I don’t see Proton as a substitute for proper support. Because if they don’t actually support the platform, they could break it at any time and say you’re outta luck.
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Maybe Valve needs to stop pushing updates for things they certified working until they certify the update won’t break them.
Never understood why Steam forces updates, but this would be a very good reason for them to do a 180 on it and let customers choose the version they want instead of forcing an update to the latest.
Is EAAC similar to EAC where we’ll need a specifically compiled glibc?
Nope, it’s completely proprietary, there’s no flag to flip for proton. It’s just borked on the deck now.
Bf4 next?
Remember folks… If you got it on steam, you can try to get s refund 🐸
Would this replace the existing PunkBuster?
no idea… good point, i bet it would require more work. was BF4 last PB game?
I think that was Battlefield Hardline, but I could be wrong.
Okay let’s have a rational thought experiment:
On the one hand, BF1 was never advertised as being Linux compatible.
On the other hand, EA has retroactively changed the terms of the sale in such a way that breaks the game, ruins the experience, solves nothing, has extremely questionable security implications, and you who paid for the game did not consent to.
Personally I think they should have to refund games for this and Valve needs to put their foot down and be good stewards for the community.
“Solves nothing” is a stretch. These companies don’t still apply anti-cheat because it does nothing.
It doesn’t just do nothing. They know for sure it does nothing, is not theoretically capable of doing more than nothing to prevent cheating, and that it is a giant security hole.
They just don’t care, because it lets them install a rootkit on your computer.
Oh, so it does nothing, and it’s a conspiracy to rootkit your computer so they can do other things(?). I see.
It does nothing to prevent cheating because cheating does not require access to your computer.
The fact that they’re rootkits is not a conspiracy. It’s not a secret that they have kernel access.
Honestly Valve needs to have a policy for this. If a game that once worked on Steamdeck and now no longer works after publisher intervention then refunds need to be issued. I have BF2042, BFV and BF1 and 1 was the LAST one I could still play on Linux. Now I have 3 digital paperweights that I can’t play anymore. I want my money back.
If it’s up to me I would leave SteamDeck out of it altogether. If the publisher changes the terms of sale in any way, it should be refundable. But at the very least, if you bought it on SteamDeck and it later stops working on SD, I would agree and would add that as well. But Valve would have a hard time enforcing that against the publisher since, again, it was never advertised as supported by anyone but Valve.
Of course, then we have to have a deeper discussion about things like game-breaking updates, so ultimately Valve needs to serve as not only legislator but as the judge, jury and executioner as well.
It’s complicated.
Worth trying to refund. I read they refunded owners of GTAV when a similar situation happened.
I tried, unfortunately my purchase was a 4-pack deal and Steam couldn’t refund mine separately from the other three licenses. shrug
This is why I don’t see Proton as a substitute for proper support. Because if they don’t actually support the platform, they could break it at any time and say you’re outta luck.
Ive only heard of it not working due to anti cheat. Is there any other common support killer?
Nope.
Games pretty much work unless the publisher explicitly chooses to break them.
That doesn’t mean everything is always perfect, but games don’t generally just randomly break on proton. It’s almost all anticheat.
it is then.