I even understand region-locking all digital PC titles to regions where they already sell digital console titles. (Global consumer care, legal, and tech support is a complex beast.)
Requirement for single player is unnecessary though.
I can’t think of any good technical or business reason for it. Just shoehorning an extra potential marketing channel that doesn’t really need to exist if they just use the PC-based channels that are already available without extra friction.
I think honestly they might be looking to have their own platform on PC one day to not paying the platform fee.
if they keep using steam backend for part of their PC framework, they will pay a lot more in the end, compare to invest now take some flames and properly push for their account backend on PC WHILE have steam’s market place/distribution work for them.
Don’t get me wrong, Sony already have the capability to server digital contents to all the PS5s, but it’s a closed system and no worry about hacking etc as much compare to PC.
Make it a carrot, not a stick. I signed in with me gog account for cyberpunk 2077 just fine because I wanted a jacket and it was 100% optional
I’m so sick of companies doing things to maximize numbers rather than for the sake of making the best experiences. Capitalism doesn’t work, our data is worth more than our loyalty now.
Same. I don’t even give a shit about them announcing Bloorborne or Gran Turismo on PC anymore. I’ll just wait for PS4 emulation to get better and play that instead.
The PS5 doesn’t have a web browser.
What CPU+GPU Sony makes you pay for the PS5? Well, if your PS5 is turn on and you want to check a web page, you’d better take a cheap android phone out (heck, a old blackberry would do) so you can check the website you want to… because your PS5 can’t.
Sony, simply, live in another universe… they still have pockets to buy game studios and bribe exclusive in our dimension, but they simply don’t actually exist in our reality. That’s all I can think about Sony and their commercial practice: they take money from our reality (fewer and fewer each year), but they have no idea why.
You can find a decent web browser on… basically anything: cheap smartphone, cheap smart TV (even non android/apple ones) and… Well, basically anything but Sony. Also Sony is the company that leaked customers private data. They are just incompetent.
But the omission for a web browser count more on the fact that you can play webgl videogames for free (instead spending on their store) than any security concern they may have (force customers to make PSN accounts after they were repeatedly breached is tell-tale about their security concerns)
They probably removed the web browser because the PS3, and PS4 have both been hacked through it. So instead of fixing the exploits they just said screw it and just removed it.
Funny part is, the browser most likely still exists in some aspect, probably through the manual section or something like that. So the PS5 will provably also be hacked through the WebKit. Lol
I’m more upset by the strategy of putting the first game of a series on PC but not the followup games. I’m not getting Rebirth on the PS5 when I got the first one with my save file on PC even though I have a PS5 and it’s very doubtful anyone already on PC without a PS5 is gonna go out and buy a PS5 just for a sequel or two.
Honestly this behaviour comes off as some way to enact a loss leading strategy. Thing is, I can’t figure out what they would be trying to sell here?
Like making everyone use an account for Sony games does not lessen the blow of potentially paying for online, or using a hypothetical PC Sony store, or buying a PS5. It honestly feels like they’re just incredibly out of touch and don’t understand what the hell they’re doing.
I honestly could give a shit. You think games don’t report telematics internally back to devs? Who share them with publishers anyways?
Valve has so much telematicd data on you it’s insane. Same with other companies. Sony just isn’t good at burying the lead.
At the end of the day it’s the same as a GOG Account, an Epic Login, or a Ubisoft Account. They all exist and we lost this fight when we allowed giant super publishers to merge and control distribution, and when no alternative to steam has ever got off the ground.
Say what you will about Epic, but it is by f as R the closest anything is to breaking Valve’s iron grip, and it’s still a distant second place also ran.
So yea, Sony requires a login. I wish they didn’t, but literally everything does besides GOG. They all use Denuvo and DRM and lock the exe to the client. Sony doing it to run their leaderboards at least makes some sense.
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Makes sense as a requirement for online play.
I even understand region-locking all digital PC titles to regions where they already sell digital console titles. (Global consumer care, legal, and tech support is a complex beast.)
Requirement for single player is unnecessary though.
I can’t think of any good technical or business reason for it. Just shoehorning an extra potential marketing channel that doesn’t really need to exist if they just use the PC-based channels that are already available without extra friction.
I have no interest in their games, so meh
I think honestly they might be looking to have their own platform on PC one day to not paying the platform fee.
if they keep using steam backend for part of their PC framework, they will pay a lot more in the end, compare to invest now take some flames and properly push for their account backend on PC WHILE have steam’s market place/distribution work for them.
Don’t get me wrong, Sony already have the capability to server digital contents to all the PS5s, but it’s a closed system and no worry about hacking etc as much compare to PC.
Make it a carrot, not a stick. I signed in with me gog account for cyberpunk 2077 just fine because I wanted a jacket and it was 100% optional
I’m so sick of companies doing things to maximize numbers rather than for the sake of making the best experiences. Capitalism doesn’t work, our data is worth more than our loyalty now.
Same as I’ve been saying for 25 years:
Fuck Sony, and fuck their anti-consumer practices.
Think about it: even if you can get a psn account and play without a problem, this is being done to exploit and commoditize you.
Fuck Sony.
I don’t understand how you can intentionally put a root kit on your audio CDs and still exist the next year.
More sick of outrage bait title gore where everything is either a slam or a “forced down throat” personally. But it is annoying.
I think the seven seas be particularly fine this morning, arr.
While I can create a PSN account in my country, I won’t. I just won’t purchase anymore Sony games and be done with it.
They already joined EA, Take-Two and Ubisoft on my Steam ignore list.
Same. I don’t even give a shit about them announcing Bloorborne or Gran Turismo on PC anymore. I’ll just wait for PS4 emulation to get better and play that instead.
This is my plan also.
Well Sony can do whatever they wish but that doesn’t mean I have to do what they want. Normally ignore any Sony related games nowadays.
The PS5 doesn’t have a web browser. What CPU+GPU Sony makes you pay for the PS5? Well, if your PS5 is turn on and you want to check a web page, you’d better take a cheap android phone out (heck, a old blackberry would do) so you can check the website you want to… because your PS5 can’t.
Sony, simply, live in another universe… they still have pockets to buy game studios and bribe exclusive in our dimension, but they simply don’t actually exist in our reality. That’s all I can think about Sony and their commercial practice: they take money from our reality (fewer and fewer each year), but they have no idea why.
That’s stupid but completely irrelevant.
And I kinda get it. I doubt lots of people would use it for the amount of support the browser would need over time.
You can find a decent web browser on… basically anything: cheap smartphone, cheap smart TV (even non android/apple ones) and… Well, basically anything but Sony. Also Sony is the company that leaked customers private data. They are just incompetent.
But the omission for a web browser count more on the fact that you can play webgl videogames for free (instead spending on their store) than any security concern they may have (force customers to make PSN accounts after they were repeatedly breached is tell-tale about their security concerns)
They probably removed the web browser because the PS3, and PS4 have both been hacked through it. So instead of fixing the exploits they just said screw it and just removed it.
I agree. Incompetence is not an apology for their mistakes, instead the fact that Sony don’t address their security issues make it even worse.
Funny part is, the browser most likely still exists in some aspect, probably through the manual section or something like that. So the PS5 will provably also be hacked through the WebKit. Lol
I have a psn account, I own a Playstation.
I don’t like the slow march towards all our activities being constantly monitored by someone.
I won’t be buying any pc versions of Sony games and adding my psn account to it.
Especially with PSN being a paid service and I’m sure their goal is to charge for access and all pc games will become subscription ontop
This right here is the only thing I’m worried about
I’m more upset by the strategy of putting the first game of a series on PC but not the followup games. I’m not getting Rebirth on the PS5 when I got the first one with my save file on PC even though I have a PS5 and it’s very doubtful anyone already on PC without a PS5 is gonna go out and buy a PS5 just for a sequel or two.
Honestly this behaviour comes off as some way to enact a loss leading strategy. Thing is, I can’t figure out what they would be trying to sell here?
Like making everyone use an account for Sony games does not lessen the blow of potentially paying for online, or using a hypothetical PC Sony store, or buying a PS5. It honestly feels like they’re just incredibly out of touch and don’t understand what the hell they’re doing.
Common anti-consumer move by huge companies against the consumers who made them rich. What’s new?
I honestly could give a shit. You think games don’t report telematics internally back to devs? Who share them with publishers anyways?
Valve has so much telematicd data on you it’s insane. Same with other companies. Sony just isn’t good at burying the lead.
At the end of the day it’s the same as a GOG Account, an Epic Login, or a Ubisoft Account. They all exist and we lost this fight when we allowed giant super publishers to merge and control distribution, and when no alternative to steam has ever got off the ground.
Say what you will about Epic, but it is by f as R the closest anything is to breaking Valve’s iron grip, and it’s still a distant second place also ran.
So yea, Sony requires a login. I wish they didn’t, but literally everything does besides GOG. They all use Denuvo and DRM and lock the exe to the client. Sony doing it to run their leaderboards at least makes some sense.
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Could or couldn’t give a shit?
I think they were a duck a few times during the composition of that comment.