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A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!
There are real video games for phones now, and I’m pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.
I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a “new” phone… Theseus would probably like to have a word.
The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly “race to sleep” in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it’ll consume overall
If anything, it makes me wonder why we don’t have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren’t phones or pseudocomputers and don’t cost a bomb.
Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo
I’m probably part of the problem. I’ve never used a controller except a few times at friends’ houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don’t want to ever have to pick up a controller.
With a phone, there’s a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That’s probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.
I’ve never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I’m genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I’m assuming is the majority.
The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.
A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.
theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.
Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.
It’s definitely powerful enough but I’m slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn’t work in chrome or Google photos)
the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.
Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap.
It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit.
For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb…
The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.
Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.
Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.
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A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!
There are real video games for phones now, and I’m pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.
I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power
I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g
Just say you’ve never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet
I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?
I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a “new” phone… Theseus would probably like to have a word.
Never cracked a screen‽
I should watch Archer again
The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly “race to sleep” in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it’ll consume overall
Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.
If anything, it makes me wonder why we don’t have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren’t phones or pseudocomputers and don’t cost a bomb.
Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo
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I’m probably part of the problem. I’ve never used a controller except a few times at friends’ houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don’t want to ever have to pick up a controller.
With a phone, there’s a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That’s probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.
I’ve never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I’m genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I’m assuming is the majority.
The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.
A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.
Yeah, I’m taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D
If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked
Or just use a phone that’s a couple years old
Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9
I’d say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go…leave the S23 for doom scrollin.
Why downgrade?
There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?
You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?
Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly
Maybe even a bit of PS3!
https://www.goretroid.com/products/retroid-pocket-4-handheld
Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you’re gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.
Who doesn’t want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll…
Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.
people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.
I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.
I know but I don’t want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me
theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.
Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.
It’s definitely powerful enough but I’m slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn’t work in chrome or Google photos)
the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.
Yeah, it’s probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don’t really care about the curved screen.
Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb…
The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.
Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.
Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.
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Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.