Lemmy on Nintendo: “Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I’m entirely justified in pirating everything.”
I mean, it’s Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words “Nintendo”, “Mario” and such, they’d do it without hesitation…
unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what’s going on
At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.
It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.
I don’t need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.
Really I shouldn’t need the subscription for GC ports either. What’s wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that’s not monthly recurring revenue.)
Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.
I have no problem paying for games when they’re sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that’s the case for Nintendo’s library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.
Sure, but that’s a different issue; I agree with that. Don’t forget that if you even are allowed to ‘buy’ them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.
I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.
They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don’t see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.
That would work if serial numbers weren’t visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I’m they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won’t bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.
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I need a fucking online subscription to buy a controller???
A controller that is useful only when you have that online subscription to play the back catalogue, yes.
The new switch has a whole button that doesn’t work without a paid online subscription 🤪
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Lemmy on Nintendo: “Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I’m entirely justified in pirating everything.”
I mean, it’s Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words “Nintendo”, “Mario” and such, they’d do it without hesitation…
That’s been standard for the switch retro controller releases. And yes it’s been bullshit the entire time. I would have liked an N64 one.
But you don’t have the sub (cheap when sharing a family pack) so you can’t play the N64 games anyway.
How I can’t play N64 games without a subscription? 🏴☠️
Because you need it to play them on Switch.
unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what’s going on
At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.
It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.
I am using my Switch just fine without an online subscription. I guess Nintendo thinks I am using it wrong.
Right, but he sub is shareable and a pretty cheap barrier for entry… and required to play those GameCube games anyway.
I don’t need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.
Really I shouldn’t need the subscription for GC ports either. What’s wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that’s not monthly recurring revenue.)
Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.
I have no problem paying for games when they’re sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that’s the case for Nintendo’s library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.
Sure, but that’s a different issue; I agree with that. Don’t forget that if you even are allowed to ‘buy’ them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.
I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.
Can you think of a better way to keep it mostly out of the hands of scalpers?
They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don’t see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.
That would work if serial numbers weren’t visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I’m they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won’t bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.
Put the onus on the retailer to limit how many units a single customer can purchase. Why would Nintendo give a single fuck about scalpers, anyway?
Make enough of them that scalping isn’t profitable.
That’s a fine solution long term I guess, but things take time to be made.
Yes, it’s the same for their other classic controllers.