Why? You have to login to Xbox for Xbox published games. You have to login into blizzard to play Diablo or overwatch fron steam, you have to log into EA launching from steam or Microsoft.
So why does a PSN account make you “untrusting”? You just want to cheat on those games or what?
Sony has stopped releasing games on GoG ever since they required login to the PSN. For example, you can buy God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn on GoG, but you can’t buy Ragnarok or Forbidden West.
They lifted the requirement a few weeks ago, but the games still have not been released on GoG, and at this point it’s doubtful they will.
I buy games on epic. I have never purchased a game or have installed gog. Idk get a boner over denuvo removal as denuvo doesn’t effect the games I play
The history of sony data breaches. Also nobody wants any of those other accounts either, and diablo and overwatch look boring and manipulative as fuck and not everyone plays those. I haven’t touched an ea game since nhl 98 on snes. I wanted to play horizon, god of war, and spiderman and there is no justification for enforcing log in for any of those.
Even if I wanted to cheat in some old God of War games (I don’t), so what? Who does that hurt?
What I don’t trust, for good reason, is that that server will always be there to authenticate my game. Allegedly it requires talking to their server at first install, and that works now in the year 2025, but who’s to say it will be there in 2035?
Splinter Cell: Blacklist came out in 2013. A friend of mine bought it this past winter sale. The UPlay launcher that existed when that game came out has now been renamed and reworked, and the launcher that comes up when he tries to play it asks him for a product key that he was not provided (there is a function for this in the Steam overlay, and we checked, and it was not available for this game). Now I’m sure that he could eventually get it working if he had the patience to wait through Ubisoft support, but A) he shouldn’t have to, and B) what if Ubisoft goes out of business in the next couple of years? That’s not an unlikely scenario at this point, and all the online requirement did was introduce an additional point of failure in the thing that he paid money for. I’m old enough and have been playing games long enough to see these points of failure rear their heads plenty of times now.
The login requirement for the likes of Diablo 3 and 4 are exactly why I’m not buying Diablo 3 and 4. Honestly, even Steam’s DRM, which isn’t present on every game and usually works seamlessly, has still caused some friction for me lately, and every time it annoys me, I get that much closer to only buying games on GOG. The threat of these games getting an online requirement patched in after the fact is enough to make me rather emulate them than deal with that nonsense, if I was so inclined. If they put their games on GOG, I don’t have to trust them, because it’s impossible for them to do that to me.
Oh my god, do you think this is some kind of hypocrisy? If I have internet now and download a GOG game’s installer to my hard drive now, I have it forever, even if I’m in a place without internet access like on a train. Even if GOG goes out of business. Even if Sony goes out of business. Even if the internet ceases to exist. When Blizzard turns the lights off on Diablo 4, that game is gone due to no fault of your own.
They lifted it on four games but omitted some others, which isn’t great, and they’ve shown a willingness to patch this in after the fact, so I still don’t trust them. EA did the same thing with the likes of Jedi: Fallen Order and such, so they’re on the same shit list.
I’m with you most of the time, but at least in this case the games are older and they’re still releasing fantastic new installments in the series.
(looking at you gta trilogy or whatever that hzd Remaster is)
Odd take in this context. The last game in this trilogy was released almost 20 years ago—if they’re not gonna remaster this, what are remasters for exactly?
They can’t. It’s too sweet of a deal when there is an already existing fanbase ready to give them their money for much less work and risk than building a totally new game.
Making brand new content costs a ton of money, and Sony clearly made colossal missteps in regards to that recently. With this, they’re hoping for what’s essentially free cash
I think the worry is that pushing out so many remasters depletes resources that could be used to make other games.
Not actually sure if that’s true, tbh. I think remasters are often handled by different companies/studios/teams rather than the teams working on all new projects. Although if Sony is tight on cash, funding both teams at once could prove really difficult.
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Stop with remasters ffs…
Sony needs to make up for 12 failed/cancelled live service games somehow
Or do the one everyone is fucking asking for. Bloodborne
I mean… potential steam release though which I am 100% onboard with
If this were still two years ago, I might even hope for a GOG release. I have a hard time trusting Sony now since they started requiring PSN logins.
Why? You have to login to Xbox for Xbox published games. You have to login into blizzard to play Diablo or overwatch fron steam, you have to log into EA launching from steam or Microsoft.
So why does a PSN account make you “untrusting”? You just want to cheat on those games or what?
Sony has stopped releasing games on GoG ever since they required login to the PSN. For example, you can buy God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn on GoG, but you can’t buy Ragnarok or Forbidden West.
They lifted the requirement a few weeks ago, but the games still have not been released on GoG, and at this point it’s doubtful they will.
I buy games on epic. I have never purchased a game or have installed gog. Idk get a boner over denuvo removal as denuvo doesn’t effect the games I play
Choose one
Oh… so epic has free games every week that you can get.
That’s still not purchasing a game
The history of sony data breaches. Also nobody wants any of those other accounts either, and diablo and overwatch look boring and manipulative as fuck and not everyone plays those. I haven’t touched an ea game since nhl 98 on snes. I wanted to play horizon, god of war, and spiderman and there is no justification for enforcing log in for any of those.
Even if I wanted to cheat in some old God of War games (I don’t), so what? Who does that hurt?
What I don’t trust, for good reason, is that that server will always be there to authenticate my game. Allegedly it requires talking to their server at first install, and that works now in the year 2025, but who’s to say it will be there in 2035?
Splinter Cell: Blacklist came out in 2013. A friend of mine bought it this past winter sale. The UPlay launcher that existed when that game came out has now been renamed and reworked, and the launcher that comes up when he tries to play it asks him for a product key that he was not provided (there is a function for this in the Steam overlay, and we checked, and it was not available for this game). Now I’m sure that he could eventually get it working if he had the patience to wait through Ubisoft support, but A) he shouldn’t have to, and B) what if Ubisoft goes out of business in the next couple of years? That’s not an unlikely scenario at this point, and all the online requirement did was introduce an additional point of failure in the thing that he paid money for. I’m old enough and have been playing games long enough to see these points of failure rear their heads plenty of times now.
The login requirement for the likes of Diablo 3 and 4 are exactly why I’m not buying Diablo 3 and 4. Honestly, even Steam’s DRM, which isn’t present on every game and usually works seamlessly, has still caused some friction for me lately, and every time it annoys me, I get that much closer to only buying games on GOG. The threat of these games getting an online requirement patched in after the fact is enough to make me rather emulate them than deal with that nonsense, if I was so inclined. If they put their games on GOG, I don’t have to trust them, because it’s impossible for them to do that to me.
That’s not how it works but okay 👍
How do you require an online account without requiring internet access to that server?
How do you download the game without Internet?
Oh my god, do you think this is some kind of hypocrisy? If I have internet now and download a GOG game’s installer to my hard drive now, I have it forever, even if I’m in a place without internet access like on a train. Even if GOG goes out of business. Even if Sony goes out of business. Even if the internet ceases to exist. When Blizzard turns the lights off on Diablo 4, that game is gone due to no fault of your own.
They’re not requiring logins anymore. they’re going to taunt with exclusively bonuses. Foregoing the required login.
They lifted it on four games but omitted some others, which isn’t great, and they’ve shown a willingness to patch this in after the fact, so I still don’t trust them. EA did the same thing with the likes of Jedi: Fallen Order and such, so they’re on the same shit list.
I’m with you most of the time, but at least in this case the games are older and they’re still releasing fantastic new installments in the series. (looking at you gta trilogy or whatever that hzd Remaster is)
Odd take in this context. The last game in this trilogy was released almost 20 years ago—if they’re not gonna remaster this, what are remasters for exactly?
They can’t. It’s too sweet of a deal when there is an already existing fanbase ready to give them their money for much less work and risk than building a totally new game.
Making brand new content costs a ton of money, and Sony clearly made colossal missteps in regards to that recently. With this, they’re hoping for what’s essentially free cash
Don’t buy them?
I think the worry is that pushing out so many remasters depletes resources that could be used to make other games.
Not actually sure if that’s true, tbh. I think remasters are often handled by different companies/studios/teams rather than the teams working on all new projects. Although if Sony is tight on cash, funding both teams at once could prove really difficult.