Well I have primarily owned Radeon cards for my desktops and a few months ago switched to an Nvidia card. I will probably never go back to AMD for GPUs. Nvidia just makes better cards and the drivers are painless to deal with. With AMD it seemed like every driver update broke something or caused random crashes.
AMD open sourced their drivers so everything just works, while Nvidia drivers have to be built against your system and Nvidia refused to supply proper desktop drivers for years (EGLStreams vs GBM).
The downside of AMD’s approach is it has to trickle down which depending on what distribution you use can take weeks to a year and it normally takes a couple iterations to get everything working nicely. Which basically expect the 6800 XT to work brilliantly but the 7300 to be flakey for a bit.
My favourite bit is I owned a few Athlon 5300 APU and 5 years after they were released AMD were still adding performance improvements to them.
Yeah see, it’s really not. Perhaps if you’re only interested in gaming, you might think that way, but Nvidia’s GPU’s are just plain better at rendering and AI tasks. It doesn’t matter to most people if the drivers are open source or not.
With AMD it seemed like every driver update broke something or caused random crashes.
In my entire life was the opposite, on release, AMD drivers are dog water, once they get it stable, you could use your VC for your entire life using the latest driver. On windows I had to force the the usage of an earlier driver cause new drivers always reduces the performance of my gtx750ti. Also had a friend with similar issues on a 1060. First time I heard it about AMD, but I know that some ppl got unlucky
Even so, Nvidia has more than 80% of market share, I don’t think AMD wants anything more than competition right now. If you read the article I believe it will be more clear.
That’s true, but another competing AI chip company was recently complaining that they had to meet with clients secretly, because Nvidia would delay the customer’s shipments as punishments if they caught them buying from non-Nvidia suppliers.
Yeah exactly. I’m not saying Nvidia are angels. But it’s funny that one of the two mega players who own the entire GPU market is pointing fingers at the other like this.
They’re basically the only two players in the market but to put them in the same box isn’t entirely fair either. AMD is much smaller than Nvidia and Nvidia knows it. That’s why they treat their customers and partners like garbage. “What you gonna do? Go to the competitor? Do they have DLSS? I don’t think so.”
NVIDIA should be struck down for their practices. I simply don’t buy NVIDIA because they’re shit on linux + I hate monopolies. It would be great if there were another graphics card maker for desktops and laptops. Now that laptops are slowly going ARM, my hope is that NVIDIA and AMD will have to start contending with Qualcomm in the mobile (laptop, handhelds, smartphones, …) space. Maybe then we’ll see some actual competition.
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Well I have primarily owned Radeon cards for my desktops and a few months ago switched to an Nvidia card. I will probably never go back to AMD for GPUs. Nvidia just makes better cards and the drivers are painless to deal with. With AMD it seemed like every driver update broke something or caused random crashes.
See its the opposite in Linux land.
AMD open sourced their drivers so everything just works, while Nvidia drivers have to be built against your system and Nvidia refused to supply proper desktop drivers for years (EGLStreams vs GBM).
The downside of AMD’s approach is it has to trickle down which depending on what distribution you use can take weeks to a year and it normally takes a couple iterations to get everything working nicely. Which basically expect the 6800 XT to work brilliantly but the 7300 to be flakey for a bit.
My favourite bit is I owned a few Athlon 5300 APU and 5 years after they were released AMD were still adding performance improvements to them.
Yeah see, it’s really not. Perhaps if you’re only interested in gaming, you might think that way, but Nvidia’s GPU’s are just plain better at rendering and AI tasks. It doesn’t matter to most people if the drivers are open source or not.
I just wanted to add that, like most things in Linux, it depends. Some things are easier in some distros and some applications etc…
I find trying to use ROCm as an example, far more of a pain on arch, and have to wait until someone figures out the problems I can’t dive into.
I know it’s anecdotal, but I just wanted to give more perspective.
In my entire life was the opposite, on release, AMD drivers are dog water, once they get it stable, you could use your VC for your entire life using the latest driver. On windows I had to force the the usage of an earlier driver cause new drivers always reduces the performance of my gtx750ti. Also had a friend with similar issues on a 1060. First time I heard it about AMD, but I know that some ppl got unlucky
Well, that was remarkably content free. :-/
“Competitor bad!” Says former head of other competitor.
Emphasis on former. Either way, he’s right.
I’m wondering where you read that in this entire article.
It’s my interpretation of the title. Nothing more, nothing less.
Even so, Nvidia has more than 80% of market share, I don’t think AMD wants anything more than competition right now. If you read the article I believe it will be more clear.
That’s true, but another competing AI chip company was recently complaining that they had to meet with clients secretly, because Nvidia would delay the customer’s shipments as punishments if they caught them buying from non-Nvidia suppliers.
AMD are no heroes but Nvidia are absolute scum for the ways they strong arm even their own partners.
Yeah exactly. I’m not saying Nvidia are angels. But it’s funny that one of the two mega players who own the entire GPU market is pointing fingers at the other like this.
They’re basically the only two players in the market but to put them in the same box isn’t entirely fair either. AMD is much smaller than Nvidia and Nvidia knows it. That’s why they treat their customers and partners like garbage. “What you gonna do? Go to the competitor? Do they have DLSS? I don’t think so.”
Edit: dumb mistype
No, for sure.
I know I often snort powdered silicon off GPU backplates.
NVIDIA should be struck down for their practices. I simply don’t buy NVIDIA because they’re shit on linux + I hate monopolies. It would be great if there were another graphics card maker for desktops and laptops. Now that laptops are slowly going ARM, my hope is that NVIDIA and AMD will have to start contending with Qualcomm in the mobile (laptop, handhelds, smartphones, …) space. Maybe then we’ll see some actual competition.
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