Trust me, I push Signal hard and even donate to it monthly. As I’m sure many of you know, there are always a few contacts who unfortunately refuse to use it.
In this case: do you prefer to use insecure SMS in something like QUIK SMS or Fossify Messages, or do you prefer to bite the Google bullet to get end-to-end encrypted messages (even if the metadata isn’t encrypted)?
I can see good arguments for both sides, so I am curious what Lemmy’s take is.
I absolutely cannot stand RCS. Here in the US all the carriers have given up implementing it themselves and instead offload it to Google — I’m not even an Android user! I have to explicitly unblock a bunch of Google domains for RCS to work.
E2E will be nice once it’s functional with iOS but I still loathe depending on Google.
Well if I only get those two options it’d be SMS because I don’t do anything interesting enough for a government to spy on, but Google would benefit in knowing my contacts.
But the real answer would be, I would not message that person anymore.
Personally I hate both options, I’ve lucked out that most of my steady contacts use signal, currently I’d go with RCS especially as it’s supposed to get e2e encryption between iOS and Android. That said both options are rough, your carrier can read all your sms and Google gets all your metadata for RCS
What are you more worried about, third party, MitM interception (e.g. IMSI catcher) or Google knowing who you are communicating with? The former is technically harder for an attacker, but the use of such devices is well documented and poorly controlled. Google is, well Google. And you can expect them to monitize any bit of data they have on you. Also, that data will almost certainly be handed over to local law enforcement, especially if they have whatever the local equivalent of a warrant is.
As with most security, there are trade-offs. You have to decided what risks you are willing to accept and what you are not.
Personally, mostly concerned about surveillance capitalism and mass surveillance. But I pose this more as a hypothetical for what “you” (the average lemmy user) would think is the lesser of two evils
Well, I don’t have Google Messages on my phone. And as far as I know there’s no open third-party implementation out there to do RCS?! That kind of messenging also isn’t part of AOSP …That means I’d obviously (need to) send and receive SMS.
Recently I was looking for sms app for ios with PGP integration. Sadly didn’t find any. Was thinking to build one but rolling out to AppStore is too much of a hassle. RCS seems to be carrier dependent.
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I absolutely cannot stand RCS. Here in the US all the carriers have given up implementing it themselves and instead offload it to Google — I’m not even an Android user! I have to explicitly unblock a bunch of Google domains for RCS to work.
E2E will be nice once it’s functional with iOS but I still loathe depending on Google.
Well if I only get those two options it’d be SMS because I don’t do anything interesting enough for a government to spy on, but Google would benefit in knowing my contacts.
But the real answer would be, I would not message that person anymore.
RCS is harder for average criminals to snoop into.
Also if in the future bank verification codes use RCS, that makes it harder to get MITM’d
(cuz banks are stubborn as hell, they’d never allow 2fa apps)
Personally I hate both options, I’ve lucked out that most of my steady contacts use signal, currently I’d go with RCS especially as it’s supposed to get e2e encryption between iOS and Android. That said both options are rough, your carrier can read all your sms and Google gets all your metadata for RCS
What are you more worried about, third party, MitM interception (e.g. IMSI catcher) or Google knowing who you are communicating with? The former is technically harder for an attacker, but the use of such devices is well documented and poorly controlled. Google is, well Google. And you can expect them to monitize any bit of data they have on you. Also, that data will almost certainly be handed over to local law enforcement, especially if they have whatever the local equivalent of a warrant is.
As with most security, there are trade-offs. You have to decided what risks you are willing to accept and what you are not.
Personally, mostly concerned about surveillance capitalism and mass surveillance. But I pose this more as a hypothetical for what “you” (the average lemmy user) would think is the lesser of two evils
Well, I don’t have Google Messages on my phone. And as far as I know there’s no open third-party implementation out there to do RCS?! That kind of messenging also isn’t part of AOSP …That means I’d obviously (need to) send and receive SMS.
Recently I was looking for sms app for ios with PGP integration. Sadly didn’t find any. Was thinking to build one but rolling out to AppStore is too much of a hassle. RCS seems to be carrier dependent.
What’s wrong with email?
Email is not an instant messaging protocol.
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RCS is trash.