As someone mentioned earlier, it’s a dark pattern, which is inherently deceptive. It’s the same as if an app creator moved the order of the Accept/Decline buttons suddenly to get more people to unintentionally enroll in subscriptions
Nobody fucking reads text. Its muscle memory. Google trained people to expect the correct result. It’s fucking bullshit that people like you point out “iT SaYs SpONsorED!”
Hearing this week how they purposefully made Google search results worse so that people would be shown more ads feels like another blow as of late. Have you no sense of decency Google #ShakesFistAsAConsumer
It had problems with the rate limited accounts for the last months, but I think they’re fixed now. I haven’t had any problem in the last weeks. If you keep getting these messages I’d recommend clearing app data and starting a new anonymous login session.
I don’t mind it so much as it makes it hard to find the actual application I’m looking for most of the time. Your case here is a perfect example of this.
Google has done crappy “suggested results” for so many years now that I automatically ignore the top results from any Google search, so all this does is make it harder to find things :-(
Not quite. If your currently connected devices are not (supposedly) compatible because then it will not show up even if it is still on the store.
Google doesnt even tell you that way and you might assume it’s not there.
I tried it multiple times and had no issues installing the apk from apkmirror and using the app.
Yeah, I’ve been geofenced from certain apps for forever for some reason. Google knows I’m German, Google knows I’m in Germany and yet I can’t download the official German gov Covid tracking app because “it isn’t available in your region”. So I’ve gotten quite familiar with the aurora store instead 🤷♂️
No, it did really happen. Usually with apps that didn’t have very high installation counts. I have first hand experience with it as the author and publisher of an app. People could literally search for the exact name of my app and get all kinds of other results, but not my app. I’d have to send them a direct link to the listing.
I’ve always been amazed by how unusable the play store was. I’d actually like to browse apps sometimes, but it always was choke full of useless ads pushing the worst apps possible. I only go there once every blue moon when I exactly know what I want, download it and get out of there.
I’ll just point out this isn’t only an Android issue.
If there any IT person here who has had to direct an employee to download the Microsoft authenticator app from the iPhone App Store, you’ve almost certainly seen that it promotes a deceptively similar looking authenticator above the Microsoft one, and you have to make sure the user knows not to download it.
You and the moron who thinks that when some one talks about a comment that feels like it came from a google lawyer also sound like you came from reddit.
I think you you have a much more limited perspective that doesn’t hold Google as accountable as many people. Here’s a snippet from an article breaking down the subtleties of the adjustments Google makes re: dark patterns:
I always imagine you people as the boomers on infomercials. Accidentally clicking shit, installing zero days from random sources, and just heavily fighting to practice cyber hygiene with commission unsuccessful results.
As a person that has a muscle memory for pressing the first row. I disagree with you here. I had to relearn pressing the actual app. For iOS I do not have this issue even though they also practice this as I had no muscle memory since I rarely use iPhone.
“You people”, very kind. As if people doing things on autopilot isn’t universal and implementations like these aren’t meant to trigger that exact thing. Read up on UX, and implementations of dark patterns. Perhaps have an attempt at empathy too.
“People like you” make the internet such a bad place sometimes. Generalizing, exaggerating, calling names…
Yeah that’s the part that is frustrating. It’s such an aggressive implementation of a dark pattern knowing the users muscle memory. It’s akin to suddenly switching the placement of ‘Accept’/‘Decline’ after years of being in the same place.
What surprises me is that it feels more like a money grab from a struggling app than the company in charge of ads across a large percentage of the world.
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Probably easier to tell if there were images. Why are they missing
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I have no idea why you are being downvoted. It isn’t even deceptive as the post implies. Scummy? 1000%. Deceptive? No.
You sound awfully like a google lawyer.
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Because Lemmy is full of insufferable entitled assholes.
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As someone mentioned earlier, it’s a dark pattern, which is inherently deceptive. It’s the same as if an app creator moved the order of the Accept/Decline buttons suddenly to get more people to unintentionally enroll in subscriptions
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Nobody fucking reads text. Its muscle memory. Google trained people to expect the correct result. It’s fucking bullshit that people like you point out “iT SaYs SpONsorED!”
Then it sounds like a you problem…
Working as desiged. The revenue from deceptive ads is higher then relevant ads.
Hearing this week how they purposefully made Google search results worse so that people would be shown more ads feels like another blow as of late. Have you no sense of decency Google #ShakesFistAsAConsumer
Almost all ads are icky
Just go this way, and if you’re fed up with the Play Store switch to Aurora Store: same apps, no ads.
I dunno how anyone uses Aurora Store. Every time I try it says I’m rate limited or just has a permanent loading icon.
It had problems with the rate limited accounts for the last months, but I think they’re fixed now. I haven’t had any problem in the last weeks. If you keep getting these messages I’d recommend clearing app data and starting a new anonymous login session.
I have never seen that once.
And/or set up something like Obtainium for those apps you can pull directly from their source.
Gets you updates a lot faster, too
I definitely didn’t know about Aurora store until this post. Currently have it downloaded on my tablet and phone now, thanks for the great advice!
Can you link it please?
Edit: got it now and it looks great! Thanks to all those who linked.
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore
This? https://f-droid.org/packages/com.aurora.store/
that
Aurora Store - FDroid link
I don’t mind it so much as it makes it hard to find the actual application I’m looking for most of the time. Your case here is a perfect example of this.
Google has done crappy “suggested results” for so many years now that I automatically ignore the top results from any Google search, so all this does is make it harder to find things :-(
The layout is very confusing. It makes it look like Excel is also an ad.
I’m glad I basically never use the play store.
Play Store search is horrible. You can literally search for the exact name of the app you want and NOT have it anywhere in the results.
Not quite. If your currently connected devices are not (supposedly) compatible because then it will not show up even if it is still on the store.
Google doesnt even tell you that way and you might assume it’s not there.
I tried it multiple times and had no issues installing the apk from apkmirror and using the app.
Yeah, I’ve been geofenced from certain apps for forever for some reason. Google knows I’m German, Google knows I’m in Germany and yet I can’t download the official German gov Covid tracking app because “it isn’t available in your region”. So I’ve gotten quite familiar with the aurora store instead 🤷♂️
Living near the border so your Geo-IP is outside of Germany?
I wish, then I’d have at least some explanation. Although it’d be kinda weird still seeing as how I have a German IP address
No, it did really happen. Usually with apps that didn’t have very high installation counts. I have first hand experience with it as the author and publisher of an app. People could literally search for the exact name of my app and get all kinds of other results, but not my app. I’d have to send them a direct link to the listing.
Always have been
I mean, it’s literally a store, this is not a space where you’ll be free from ads.
I’m going with–not in the top 10 of terrible things Google is doing lately.
But sure, ok, it sucks.
I’ve always been amazed by how unusable the play store was. I’d actually like to browse apps sometimes, but it always was choke full of useless ads pushing the worst apps possible. I only go there once every blue moon when I exactly know what I want, download it and get out of there.
Same. It’s actually impressive how bad the play store has gotten in last 12 years as per my experience.
I’ll just point out this isn’t only an Android issue.
If there any IT person here who has had to direct an employee to download the Microsoft authenticator app from the iPhone App Store, you’ve almost certainly seen that it promotes a deceptively similar looking authenticator above the Microsoft one, and you have to make sure the user knows not to download it.
I work IT and I hate having to help people with that. I usually bring up a pic of the app’s icon so they can compare it.
It’s not surprising, that’s how their search engine has worked forever. But yeah, icky is a good word for it.
With that user name I’ll see you as a pro of icky
It clearly says sponsored, so not really no.
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What? When did law get brought into this? Lemmy is weird.
Lawyer != law. In my mind, this comment just sounded like it came from a nitpicky lawyer representing google.
Lemmy users are so fucking annoying. All of the shitty people from Reddit moved here.
You and the moron who thinks that when some one talks about a comment that feels like it came from a google lawyer also sound like you came from reddit.
Yes.
I don’t mind suggested or even sponsored apps, but trying to get downloads via misclicks is underhanded.
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Wtf
Did I stutter?
I think you you have a much more limited perspective that doesn’t hold Google as accountable as many people. Here’s a snippet from an article breaking down the subtleties of the adjustments Google makes re: dark patterns:
https://uxdesign.cc/fixing-dark-patterns-making-google-search-ads-visible-again-47aecfb5d2ca
I’ve clicked the “install” button on the ad by accident, more than once. The ad precedes an exact match, super dark pattern.
I always imagine you people as the boomers on infomercials. Accidentally clicking shit, installing zero days from random sources, and just heavily fighting to practice cyber hygiene with commission unsuccessful results.
As a person that has a muscle memory for pressing the first row. I disagree with you here. I had to relearn pressing the actual app. For iOS I do not have this issue even though they also practice this as I had no muscle memory since I rarely use iPhone.
“You people”, very kind. As if people doing things on autopilot isn’t universal and implementations like these aren’t meant to trigger that exact thing. Read up on UX, and implementations of dark patterns. Perhaps have an attempt at empathy too.
“People like you” make the internet such a bad place sometimes. Generalizing, exaggerating, calling names…
Yeah that’s the part that is frustrating. It’s such an aggressive implementation of a dark pattern knowing the users muscle memory. It’s akin to suddenly switching the placement of ‘Accept’/‘Decline’ after years of being in the same place.
What surprises me is that it feels more like a money grab from a struggling app than the company in charge of ads across a large percentage of the world.