I usually look at it from cost per hour perspective. Tears of the Kingdom was 70 but I played it for ~140 hours, so 0.5 per hour. I’m ok with 1 per hour too but anything higher I start to ask myself “is the developer / publisher worth my support?”. Not all games can be judged by this metric though (eg outer wilds, unpacking)
So far, nothing beats the value of factorio. Mindustry (being so cheap) is a close second.
Basically everyone thinks that, and yet the data shows that basically everyone falls for it anyway. No matter how aware of it you are, you are not immune to manipulation
Ugh, sometimes we’ll be in the grocery store, and my wife will look at something that clearly says $7.99 and she’ll say “oh it’s only seven dollars”. Every time. I can’t believe how well that works on her. If I didn’t like her so much, I don’t know if I could handle it…
Then I’d have to also tell you to never play a game or buy a product ending in 99 cents. Getting into the mind of the consumer is business 101 and is literally the difference between a game/product having any success or not.
And this has been proven, JCPenney tried to get rid of 99 cent pricing and led to losing 30% profits and bankruptcy. The people who want fair and square pricing won’t be there to actually buy it.
For whatever reason, people see the 0 and think it’s bajillions pricier. I have seen .99 long enough that .00 feels cheaper even tho it’s 1 cent pricier. If they can fairly price, the product is also likely good.
Just seems to be a basic commentary on how people think about prices in general. The x.99 thing seems stupid but there’s plenty of data showing that it has an effect.
Maybe I adapted to that with time, like .99 always felt like a scam pricing strategy, but for me everything involving number nine is worse than, say 1.20. Double nines are the worst. Flat prices with zeroes make me more confident and interested somehow.
This is a really basic business concept; business 101 stuff. They definitely didn’t make it up, they’re just using it.
It works against the general population, if this particular one doesn’t, don’t get too busy strutting, there is almost certainly something else that does work on you.
Buy shit because you need/want it, not because it’s a deal.
The $8 tier has been around for a decade, for exactly this reason. MMO subscriptions, bargain games, podcasts, delivery fees. People love charging you $8
It works against the general population, if this particular one doesn’t, don’t get too busy strutting, there is almost certainly something else that does work on you.
That is very well put! I feel like I’ve talked to so many people who see one ad that doesn’t land and say, “ads don’t work on me.”
I had my sewer line backing up into my basement a couple of months ago. My regular plumber was busy so I had to call in a company that I knew was an overpriced scam (“Dream Team” lol) but I had no choice since I had guests in the house for my father’s funeral. They came and of course they couldn’t clear the line and said they had to dig up and replace the whole thing. The guy had a special tablet that he showed me the three options and the prices on and it initially showed them all in dollars per month with “zero-interest financing”. I was like dude just show me the total cost. The three options were $17K, $22K and $36K total but the monthly payments actually decreased with increasing total price (naturally the payment option didn’t show how many total payments you would have to make).
Fortunately I called my regular plumber and he was so outraged at these motherfuckers that he came out that afternoon and cleared my line for me. Total cost $850.
On iOS I have no problem paying 20 euros once or 10 per year for an app I like. Sometimes more if it’s really useful and/or the desktop app is included. Monthly is a harder sell though.
I payed 7 euros for Collections Database and goddamn I wish it had cost more or the developer would add a tip jar.
It’s wild, I released a shareware music creation app for Windows back in 2000 and it was easy to get people to pay $29.95 for it. I now have a vastly superior iOS version and nobody’s willing to pay a dollar for it. It’s a very depressing situation for an independent developer.
It’s cuz people expect free or close to free mobile apps to be scummy and have a bajillion paywalls and need a monthly subscription and steal all your data so on and so forth
Yeah. I used to have a $20 shareware product back when kagi was a payment processor. Apple introduced $1 pricing as a dick waving contest and fucked the entire indy developer community.
I originally sold my app on Beyond.com (which was originally software.net). They took 10% which didn’t seem too bad. One day they contacted me about giving my app a “freebate” – basically the app was still $29.95 but buyers could fill out a form and send it in and eventually (like months later) get their $29.95 back. Per their data only about half of buyers ever bothered to do this so it was effectively a 50% off deal. Beyond.com was supposed to give me about $10 per copy sold instead of the normal $27 to cover the freebate and they would make $5 per copy instead of their normal $3.
I said OK and they featured my app on their front page and sales went up like 100X and I was of course pretty happy. The funny part was that their accounting system was all fucked up and I kept getting $27 per copy sold even though the freebate was still in place. I actually tried contacting them multiple times about this to get the situation corrected and I could never get through to anybody who had any clue about what was going on. Eventually they went bankrupt and shut down and years later I got one of those class-action settlement checks in the mail without any explanation of what it was for. Maybe sales of my app were even better than they were telling me, I dunno. I’ve never once met a person in the real world who has ever even heard of the app so that doesn’t seem very likely.
We supposedly evolved to perceive values logarithmically. The difference between 1 to 3 should feel bigger than 3 to 5. Yet, the difference between $5 and $10 feels to me way more than the difference between $1 and $5.
Maybe I’m just broke as shit and think $10 is a lot of money
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I usually look at it from cost per hour perspective. Tears of the Kingdom was 70 but I played it for ~140 hours, so 0.5 per hour. I’m ok with 1 per hour too but anything higher I start to ask myself “is the developer / publisher worth my support?”. Not all games can be judged by this metric though (eg outer wilds, unpacking)
So far, nothing beats the value of factorio. Mindustry (being so cheap) is a close second.
For me, the price listed is the price listed. If it’s $5, it’s $5. $8 is $8, etc.
This kind of ratio would just confuse me otherwise.
Vibe pricing.
Basically everyone thinks that, and yet the data shows that basically everyone falls for it anyway. No matter how aware of it you are, you are not immune to manipulation
That trick with the $ x.99 all over again.
Ugh, sometimes we’ll be in the grocery store, and my wife will look at something that clearly says $7.99 and she’ll say “oh it’s only seven dollars”. Every time. I can’t believe how well that works on her. If I didn’t like her so much, I don’t know if I could handle it…
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Then I’d have to also tell you to never play a game or buy a product ending in 99 cents. Getting into the mind of the consumer is business 101 and is literally the difference between a game/product having any success or not.
And this has been proven, JCPenney tried to get rid of 99 cent pricing and led to losing 30% profits and bankruptcy. The people who want fair and square pricing won’t be there to actually buy it.
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For whatever reason, people see the 0 and think it’s bajillions pricier. I have seen .99 long enough that .00 feels cheaper even tho it’s 1 cent pricier. If they can fairly price, the product is also likely good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing this kind. It’s not unusual, although I never liked it either
Just seems to be a basic commentary on how people think about prices in general. The x.99 thing seems stupid but there’s plenty of data showing that it has an effect.
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Where I live, peak is $12ish after usd to cad and taxes but every cent has been worth it and every second, I’ve been having a blast
1.99 prices > 2.00 prices
Maybe I adapted to that with time, like .99 always felt like a scam pricing strategy, but for me everything involving number nine is worse than, say 1.20. Double nines are the worst. Flat prices with zeroes make me more confident and interested somehow.
For something that makes absolutely no sense at all, this makes a lot of sense.
Still waiting for ANNO 1800 with all extensions to fall to the 5$ category. Until then, I’m enjoying me some ANNO 2070.
Finally, someone who thinks like me
First, these jabronies need adderall.
Second, I need adderall.
I think we’re the same sort of jabroni.
You should go to the doctor and get a blood test. And while you’re there, try to get me some adderall.
Oh, me too! Uhh throw in some vyvanse while you both are there!
This is a really basic business concept; business 101 stuff. They definitely didn’t make it up, they’re just using it.
It works against the general population, if this particular one doesn’t, don’t get too busy strutting, there is almost certainly something else that does work on you.
Buy shit because you need/want it, not because it’s a deal.
The $8 tier has been around for a decade, for exactly this reason. MMO subscriptions, bargain games, podcasts, delivery fees. People love charging you $8
That is very well put! I feel like I’ve talked to so many people who see one ad that doesn’t land and say, “ads don’t work on me.”
Same reason that shit on TV is five easy payments of 29.95.
I’m willing g to spend $29. I’ll even spend $29 five times. But not $150.
I had my sewer line backing up into my basement a couple of months ago. My regular plumber was busy so I had to call in a company that I knew was an overpriced scam (“Dream Team” lol) but I had no choice since I had guests in the house for my father’s funeral. They came and of course they couldn’t clear the line and said they had to dig up and replace the whole thing. The guy had a special tablet that he showed me the three options and the prices on and it initially showed them all in dollars per month with “zero-interest financing”. I was like dude just show me the total cost. The three options were $17K, $22K and $36K total but the monthly payments actually decreased with increasing total price (naturally the payment option didn’t show how many total payments you would have to make).
Fortunately I called my regular plumber and he was so outraged at these motherfuckers that he came out that afternoon and cleared my line for me. Total cost $850.
Holy shit. Hold on to that plumber, lol.
He does like to launch into racist rants, but sometimes you just gotta hold your nose and swallow.
Ah that sucks but hey at least he’s not scamming you
The only time this breaks down for me though is that I still struggle to pay $0.99 for a mobile app I use often sometimes. Really not sure what it is.
On iOS I have no problem paying 20 euros once or 10 per year for an app I like. Sometimes more if it’s really useful and/or the desktop app is included. Monthly is a harder sell though.
I payed 7 euros for Collections Database and goddamn I wish it had cost more or the developer would add a tip jar.
It’s wild, I released a shareware music creation app for Windows back in 2000 and it was easy to get people to pay $29.95 for it. I now have a vastly superior iOS version and nobody’s willing to pay a dollar for it. It’s a very depressing situation for an independent developer.
It’s cuz people expect free or close to free mobile apps to be scummy and have a bajillion paywalls and need a monthly subscription and steal all your data so on and so forth
When there’s truly good apps, it sucks
Yeah. I used to have a $20 shareware product back when kagi was a payment processor. Apple introduced $1 pricing as a dick waving contest and fucked the entire indy developer community.
I originally sold my app on Beyond.com (which was originally software.net). They took 10% which didn’t seem too bad. One day they contacted me about giving my app a “freebate” – basically the app was still $29.95 but buyers could fill out a form and send it in and eventually (like months later) get their $29.95 back. Per their data only about half of buyers ever bothered to do this so it was effectively a 50% off deal. Beyond.com was supposed to give me about $10 per copy sold instead of the normal $27 to cover the freebate and they would make $5 per copy instead of their normal $3.
I said OK and they featured my app on their front page and sales went up like 100X and I was of course pretty happy. The funny part was that their accounting system was all fucked up and I kept getting $27 per copy sold even though the freebate was still in place. I actually tried contacting them multiple times about this to get the situation corrected and I could never get through to anybody who had any clue about what was going on. Eventually they went bankrupt and shut down and years later I got one of those class-action settlement checks in the mail without any explanation of what it was for. Maybe sales of my app were even better than they were telling me, I dunno. I’ve never once met a person in the real world who has ever even heard of the app so that doesn’t seem very likely.
We supposedly evolved to perceive values logarithmically. The difference between 1 to 3 should feel bigger than 3 to 5. Yet, the difference between $5 and $10 feels to me way more than the difference between $1 and $5.
Maybe I’m just broke as shit and think $10 is a lot of money
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Every premise leading to the conclusion here is verifiably false, and yet they all completely make sense.
For me:
Under 100₴ - free
100₴ - 300₴ - it must be worth it for me to buy it.
More than 300₴ - i will never finacially recover from this purschase.
I have never seen that symbol before. What currency is that!?
Edit: it’s the Ukrainian hryvnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hryvnia_sign
I just round up to the nearest multiple of 5. Who the hell rounds down when looking at prices?