Any bets on the DRAM makers getting so excited over this and having felt left out of the stupid graphics card pricing, that they put the world into a perpetual DRAM shortage and this is just the new norm.
At first I was thinking, “WTF, why did the prices shoot up so high?” And then I looked up how much I spent on 32GB of RAM rated for the same speeds back in 2022: Three Hundred Fucking Dollars. The price didn’t shoot up; it never went down!
For larger RAM chips if went up - sometimes more than double - in half a year. I can literally look at the RAM I purchased in June and it’s more than twice that price now
I had to Google hypervisor before I could answer. No, I’m not running any virtual machines on my computer. It’s pretty much just a media machine: games, movies, music, websites, etc.
We’re going to go back to covid times when it was cheaper up buy a computer with the graphics card in it than to buy the graphics card out right, but now with ram.
I’m getting so burnt out with the blatant corruption and data centers sucking up all the hardware. You know at the end of the day, all these companies are boasting record profits.
That’s the thing, they’re absolutely not. Nearly all AI implementation fails and returns on investment are minimal, if they exist at all.
They’re all part of a big gamble.
It’s exceptionally irrational at the moment. Everyone is not just gambling on an irrational self-valuation of the bet, they’re seeing each other’s bets, and that is adding an extra level of FOMO irrationality, increasing the bets even further.
With Trump’s acts of economic self-mutilation already weakening the economy, this is going to be a wild ride when the bubble pops.
I’m so glad that the US economy is based on moving money around between vast dragon hoards instead of making actually useful stuff that improves everyone’s daily life.
Much like RAM, around 90% of Nvidia’s hardware in 2025 is for data centers. Unfortunately it’s mostly specialized hardware that can’t be used in consumer computers.
Nah. Fuck IP raiders. There’s nothing wrong with GAN. There’s nothing wrong with LLM. There’s nothing wrong with gradient descent. There’s nothing wrong with diffusion models. There’s nothing wrong with markov chains, with expert systems, with fuzzy logic, with PROLOG. Not on a moral or ethical level, for certain.
Just, like, all of it. No more practicing chess against a computer. No more computer vision. No more single player Street Fighter. Fuck it all. It’s inherently evil, we’ve decided for some reason. Clearly a nuanced and well researched position.
Ok firebrand. We all know what we mean by AI when it is spoken in conversation. It is shorthand for generative AI. If you want to be patronizing and pedantic, that’s on you. We normal folks use shorthand and understand each other. Fuck AI.
According to PCPartPicker these are the prices of the RAM I’ve had my eye on - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x32GB 6800MT/s…
Start of 2025 - £230
Oct 15th - £290
Nov 25th - £866
At this rate, we’ll get sold dumb terminals and subscription services for any computing needs under the excuse of “AI crunch”. Too many centralized tech cartels getting away with controlling supply and demand that paired with global powers turn completely corrupt has helped create these circumstances.
It’s monstrous, even that A-tech… :( I hate to imagine the corps sucking them up buying them in bulk at about 80% off… But they can afford it. The only ones losing are us, either buying them at this price, or the sellers, forced to dissuade the public from buying any because Daddy Meta wants it all
Ah crap. Since months I was thinking of adding more RAM. My current 32gb is sufficient and not low at all. But those stuck with 16gb need to wait longer now. The prices will come down, right? Right?
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Any bets on the DRAM makers getting so excited over this and having felt left out of the stupid graphics card pricing, that they put the world into a perpetual DRAM shortage and this is just the new norm.
At first I was thinking, “WTF, why did the prices shoot up so high?” And then I looked up how much I spent on 32GB of RAM rated for the same speeds back in 2022: Three Hundred Fucking Dollars. The price didn’t shoot up; it never went down!
For larger RAM chips if went up - sometimes more than double - in half a year. I can literally look at the RAM I purchased in June and it’s more than twice that price now
Really wishing I’d bought the 128GB DDR4 I need last year.
My 32 GB of RAM isn’t going to last me until the bubble bursts, is it? God dammit.
I am still running 16GB of DDR3
I was running 16 for years and only recently upgraded when I hit a wall with modern games. I think the majority of games are fine with 16.
Are you running a hypervisor?
I had to Google hypervisor before I could answer. No, I’m not running any virtual machines on my computer. It’s pretty much just a media machine: games, movies, music, websites, etc.
Then 32 is more than enough for many more years to come.
Thanks for saying so! A lot of people will tell gamers that they need 64 or even 96 so it’s difficult to know what’s actually true.
I have a friend that runs 128g of RAM. He uses the computer almost entirely for Reddit and stock tracking
You must have 1TB of GPUs, else, you can’t even run Doom in proper resolution!
We’re going to go back to covid times when it was cheaper up buy a computer with the graphics card in it than to buy the graphics card out right, but now with ram.
I’m getting so burnt out with the blatant corruption and data centers sucking up all the hardware. You know at the end of the day, all these companies are boasting record profits.
That’s the thing, they’re absolutely not. Nearly all AI implementation fails and returns on investment are minimal, if they exist at all. They’re all part of a big gamble.
It’s exceptionally irrational at the moment. Everyone is not just gambling on an irrational self-valuation of the bet, they’re seeing each other’s bets, and that is adding an extra level of FOMO irrationality, increasing the bets even further.
With Trump’s acts of economic self-mutilation already weakening the economy, this is going to be a wild ride when the bubble pops.
I’m so glad that the US economy is based on moving money around between vast dragon hoards instead of making actually useful stuff that improves everyone’s daily life.
Just wait for them to go belly up, and then buy the used hardware
Much like RAM, around 90% of Nvidia’s hardware in 2025 is for data centers. Unfortunately it’s mostly specialized hardware that can’t be used in consumer computers.
Yup. Like I just grabbed a nice laptop for $150 that was $1200 in 2025 because Microsoft dictated that every computer is obsolete to their OS.
Fuck AI.
Hey when it pops, there may be a surplus of needlessly powerful but battered graphics cards that can’t really be used for crypto and other components.
Or just more e-waste destine to form a thin sedimentary layer in 10,000 years
Orrrrrrrr fuck the American AI investor bubble. Fuck the American tech tariffs. You know what? Just fuck the USA.
https://youtu.be/3bZzM4s0Hgs
Sure, but also fuck AI.
fuck the US of AI ?
Nah. Fuck IP raiders. There’s nothing wrong with GAN. There’s nothing wrong with LLM. There’s nothing wrong with gradient descent. There’s nothing wrong with diffusion models. There’s nothing wrong with markov chains, with expert systems, with fuzzy logic, with PROLOG. Not on a moral or ethical level, for certain.
Naw, fuck AI.
Just, like, all of it. No more practicing chess against a computer. No more computer vision. No more single player Street Fighter. Fuck it all. It’s inherently evil, we’ve decided for some reason. Clearly a nuanced and well researched position.
I get you. I think the sentiment is generally an exaggerated “Fuck Big Tech”.
Similar to how crypto bros ruined cryptocoins but people say “Fuck Bitcoin”.
Ok firebrand. We all know what we mean by AI when it is spoken in conversation. It is shorthand for generative AI. If you want to be patronizing and pedantic, that’s on you. We normal folks use shorthand and understand each other. Fuck AI.
Anti-ai bots are literally bots (ironic) or otherwise children/idiots who think in memes instead of rationally.
Definitely fuck all those, but also fuck fake ai.
According to PCPartPicker these are the prices of the RAM I’ve had my eye on - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x32GB 6800MT/s…
Start of 2025 - £230
Oct 15th - £290
Nov 25th - £866
Insane in the memrange.
At this rate, we’ll get sold dumb terminals and subscription services for any computing needs under the excuse of “AI crunch”. Too many centralized tech cartels getting away with controlling supply and demand that paired with global powers turn completely corrupt has helped create these circumstances.
Microsoft has you covered, they sell a thin client box that has enough OS to reach the internet and use their browser and office swuite online.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/link
866???
Yup.
I mean, there’s the slightly slower model for £500 but you know, that’s actually worth ~£200 or below
Holy shit, even in the states it’s quite bad. This is just sorting by cheapest on Newegg - either 2x32 or 1x64 DDR5 modules, no speed filters:
It’s monstrous, even that A-tech… :( I hate to imagine the corps sucking them up buying them in bulk at about 80% off… But they can afford it. The only ones losing are us, either buying them at this price, or the sellers, forced to dissuade the public from buying any because Daddy Meta wants it all
I’m just hoping none of my sticks shit the bed in the next couple years, because I do NOT want to support that price point 😬
Perhaps we’ll finally get memory efficient software again
Sorry, but that would require actual R&D and problem solving alongside jargon that your PM didn’t learn in their MBA program.
“The business case doesn’t add sufficient value for the customer. We need to prioritize creating a lickable UI.”
“Is… Is there a C missing?”
“I said what I said.”
Soon: Desolder RAM from PS5 = Profit?
Infinite Money Glitch
Ah crap. Since months I was thinking of adding more RAM. My current 32gb is sufficient and not low at all. But those stuck with 16gb need to wait longer now. The prices will come down, right? Right?