The one fucking app of theirs that was done really well and they kill it.
Microsoft might as well deprecate their UI Toolkit now. The best 3rd party app to showcase it is dead and even their own apps are just web wrappers nowadays 🙄
Tip: you can use the WhatsApp web site for text messaging (I don’t think it works for audio/video?) and if you want to use it in a standalone window you can “install” it as a web app (in most browsers). It’ll use way less RAM running in your existing browser than running a separate electron instance.
A friend told me they had a laptop that just suddenly stopped working and took forever to boot up.
Turns out it was a W10 laptop and it prompted them to install Windows 11 which basically made it non functional. Took 10+ minutes to boot and could barely open a single browser window. I installed Linux and suprise surprise the laptop worked perfecly fine.
Woah, woah, last time I checked, for $500 you could get pretty decent specs. Though, the last time I checked was in 2019 when I was shopping for a 2 in 1 for school. Since then I’ve bought used and haven’t looked back.
Still, I think you’re thinking in the $150 and under range. Anything more than that for a device with 4gb of memory would be straight up robbery.
my mother had a windows 7 laptop for work, she upgraded it to windows 10 (microsoft did a similar nagging back then) and not only did it become atrociously slow, a bunch of hardware drivers also stopped working, including pretty important stuff like USB
unfortunately linux wouldn’t have been an option cause the software she needed was (and still is) windows only
So, like Steam, half of all (“native”) E-Mail clients and almost all Markdown readers? I mean, there’s a fucking Bash script around to correctly display Markdown in the shell.
i use the web version and it works just as well, while also benefiting from not being a native program that can steal more data than just a tab in your browser
First (feels like) everyone complained about apps (for example restaurants) and demanded a web page.
Then there’s a fully functional web page and everyone looses their mind because nothing of value (seriously, what could the native app do better?) was lost.
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Shame, would something like Ferdium fare better in that case?
The one fucking app of theirs that was done really well and they kill it.
Microsoft might as well deprecate their UI Toolkit now. The best 3rd party app to showcase it is dead and even their own apps are just web wrappers nowadays 🙄
Can’t get upset if I never used WhatsApp.
There are so many better alternatives than both meta and windows. It’s enshitification personified.
Thinking on going back to linux sooo bad. lol
Cut Meta some slack. They’re not Nvidia. They’re only a $1.5T company. They can’t make everything native.
hahah, 1.5T ! peons !
Tip: you can use the WhatsApp web site for text messaging (I don’t think it works for audio/video?) and if you want to use it in a standalone window you can “install” it as a web app (in most browsers). It’ll use way less RAM running in your existing browser than running a separate electron instance.
it does
Since when? Because last I used it Video and Audio calls required their native app (their excuse was their encryption couldn’t run on the website)
I thought you meant attachments
And they sell laptops with 4 GB RAM and pre-installed Windows 11 here. No idea how they work. :)
They don’t!
A friend told me they had a laptop that just suddenly stopped working and took forever to boot up.
Turns out it was a W10 laptop and it prompted them to install Windows 11 which basically made it non functional. Took 10+ minutes to boot and could barely open a single browser window. I installed Linux and suprise surprise the laptop worked perfecly fine.
I don’t understand windows business model for these low end laptops.
They just make windows look bad (not that it’s good).
So many people have “windows slow” imprinted on their brains because they buy a $500 or less computer and expect it to be as good as a 1500 MacBook…
Woah, woah, last time I checked, for $500 you could get pretty decent specs. Though, the last time I checked was in 2019 when I was shopping for a 2 in 1 for school. Since then I’ve bought used and haven’t looked back.
Still, I think you’re thinking in the $150 and under range. Anything more than that for a device with 4gb of memory would be straight up robbery.
that’s not even a new thing…
my mother had a windows 7 laptop for work, she upgraded it to windows 10 (microsoft did a similar nagging back then) and not only did it become atrociously slow, a bunch of hardware drivers also stopped working, including pretty important stuff like USB
unfortunately linux wouldn’t have been an option cause the software she needed was (and still is) windows only
Windows upgrades sound like a nightmare anyway, no way I’d trust an upgraded installation. Fresh install or nothing.
No surprise there!
Then they sell useless OOTB laptops. Those laptops desperately need Linux (or BSD).
So, like Steam, half of all (“native”) E-Mail clients and almost all Markdown readers? I mean, there’s a fucking Bash script around to correctly display Markdown in the shell.
What a time to compute.
to be fair steam is only partially a webview
Lol trash
This could mean great news to Linux WhatsApp users.
i use the web version and it works just as well, while also benefiting from not being a native program that can steal more data than just a tab in your browser
Can it do video and audio calls?
open us up to do calls from the webview then, so i can do it in linux too.
It’s called enshittification for sure.
It’s beyond that. It’s surveillance software
That’s part of enshittification I’d say. It’s all about squeezing your users for as much money as you can, and surveillance is part of that.
How much ram were the native app consuming?
190MB, according to the article. And when it was idling, it would be only tens of MB
I usually only used the webversion anyway?
First (feels like) everyone complained about apps (for example restaurants) and demanded a web page.
Then there’s a fully functional web page and everyone looses their mind because nothing of value (seriously, what could the native app do better?) was lost.
Thankyou Microsoft
This part actually doesn’t depend on Microsoft
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