I was never really happy with the button/stick/trackpad layout on the original controller. This looks to be more in line with the Steam Deck layout, which I’m pretty happy with. I rarely play games on controller that require the trackpads anyway - I prefer a mouse and keyboard for those, but I might get one of these to replace my aging Xbox 360 controller.
What do you have in mind? I think the trackpads are already doing a fine job in situation where speed isn’t important like fiddling in menus / GUIs, turn-based games or point & clicks.
My use case is playing games like We Are Football 2024, the Football Manager games and others where a regular controller isn’t precise enough from the couch, since I use my TV as a monitor and how low my coffee table is makes using a mouse awkward and ergonomically awful lol
It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff
See, the problem is that the precision is essential.
Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible?
It’s like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it’s going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing.
On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold.
Because I’m poor, currently spending a lot on my weight loss/general health improvement project, and already having a great controller for games with regular controller support (Razer Wolverine V3 Pro) makes it harder for me to justify spending a lot on one only for games that would otherwise require a mouse 😁
I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol.
Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller.
I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision “best of the best” hardware crowd.
Because I live in a country whose goverment is shitting on the economy and where Valve will never sell their hardware themselves so I am stuck with scalpers and resellers, the original steam controller was sold at triple its normal price at best.
I loved the og one so if this isn’t affordable… Well I am fucked.
Well, affordable for the high quality they deliver, but not as competitively priced as some cheaper crap on the market. Yeah you get what you pay for, but you do have to expect to pay premium prices to Valve (for equally premium devices).
Can we talk about the strange website this is posted on? A browser based games publisher has an blog reporting on pc/console games and on some articles there’s an embedded browser game that it auto scrolls to??
Touchpads are hard. Well good touchpads are hard. Especially small ones. Just look at laptops. Besides Apple it took like 20 years for them to get good. And even then they still suck randomly.
Could there be a new steam machine after all? Steam Frame AND a new VR headset? Right now it is said the VR set will be called the Steam Frame but I always thought that name to be more suitable for a console.
If the Steam Controller 2 is what I hope it is to be., I would probably buy 2 right away; one for daily usage, and the other as a collection unit that stays in package. The first controller didn’t work for me and certainly was not usable for all cases. But thanks to the Steam Deck, I am confident in the controller successor.
The question is, what do you think would it cost? And what would be your limit? I think it would cost maybe 60 USD or EUR and I would even be ready to pay 90 (but then would buy only one and wait for discount for second unit).
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I was never really happy with the button/stick/trackpad layout on the original controller. This looks to be more in line with the Steam Deck layout, which I’m pretty happy with. I rarely play games on controller that require the trackpads anyway - I prefer a mouse and keyboard for those, but I might get one of these to replace my aging Xbox 360 controller.
Please let it be good for replacing a mouse and also halfway affordable!
If it’s like the pads on the Steam Deck (and it looks like they are), they are a great replacement for mouse.
What do you have in mind? I think the trackpads are already doing a fine job in situation where speed isn’t important like fiddling in menus / GUIs, turn-based games or point & clicks.
My use case is playing games like We Are Football 2024, the Football Manager games and others where a regular controller isn’t precise enough from the couch, since I use my TV as a monitor and how low my coffee table is makes using a mouse awkward and ergonomically awful lol
Steam Input can be used to turn your joystick on your existing pad into a mouse. You could add a button for a speed modifier.
It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff but it’ll unlock a lot of games for couch gameplay with your existing setup.
See, the problem is that the precision is essential.
Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible?
It’s like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it’s going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing.
On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold.
Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it.
I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch.
What about a trackball mouse?
Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist
Why do you worry about affordability? Valves hardware has always been affordable. I would be very surprised if the controller costs more than $80
Because I’m poor, currently spending a lot on my weight loss/general health improvement project, and already having a great controller for games with regular controller support (Razer Wolverine V3 Pro) makes it harder for me to justify spending a lot on one only for games that would otherwise require a mouse 😁
I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol.
Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller.
Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck
I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision “best of the best” hardware crowd.
Because I live in a country whose goverment is shitting on the economy and where Valve will never sell their hardware themselves so I am stuck with scalpers and resellers, the original steam controller was sold at triple its normal price at best.
I loved the og one so if this isn’t affordable… Well I am fucked.
With inflation and companies jacking prices up for no reason I would be extremely surprised if the controller came in under $120 USD
Well, affordable for the high quality they deliver, but not as competitively priced as some cheaper crap on the market. Yeah you get what you pay for, but you do have to expect to pay premium prices to Valve (for equally premium devices).
Can we talk about the strange website this is posted on? A browser based games publisher has an blog reporting on pc/console games and on some articles there’s an embedded browser game that it auto scrolls to??
I am amazed companies like 8bitdo still don’t have any controllers with touchpads. Happy to see this!
Touchpads are hard. Well good touchpads are hard. Especially small ones. Just look at laptops. Besides Apple it took like 20 years for them to get good. And even then they still suck randomly.
Can confirm they suck. Hate touch pads.
OH. FUCK. YES.
Could there be a new steam machine after all? Steam Frame AND a new VR headset? Right now it is said the VR set will be called the Steam Frame but I always thought that name to be more suitable for a console.
Did you read the article
I did. But the whole year all rumors about a new console were dismissed until now.
Triton, as in the guy with the trident? N64-style is coming back!
Also Half Life 3 confirmedGaben, I am ready.
If the Steam Controller 2 is what I hope it is to be., I would probably buy 2 right away; one for daily usage, and the other as a collection unit that stays in package. The first controller didn’t work for me and certainly was not usable for all cases. But thanks to the Steam Deck, I am confident in the controller successor.
The question is, what do you think would it cost? And what would be your limit? I think it would cost maybe 60 USD or EUR and I would even be ready to pay 90 (but then would buy only one and wait for discount for second unit).
I still use mine access love it but look forward to a new version with improvements in build and design
Please! One of mine is really flakey
First ones were garbage. Hopefully round two will be successful.