So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:
Reviews are mixed: not a great start
Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
175 euros DLC’s: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there’s another 175 fees for content?
purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?
And they don’t understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.
This is just a random example. I’ve quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.
To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)
Short answer: you wouldn’t buy this game, given your valid criticisms.
This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don’t understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.
More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It’s basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So “mixed” means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn’t, which is quite damning.
I can only think of one reason, because it’s the game your friends are playing.
You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don’t buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.
Ah it’s very simple, you would buy this if you’d made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.
I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.
Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)…
I think that fighting games are in a much better place with the season passes(character DLC) than previously.
They are a much more long term game, with better balance patches and additions through mechanics to the game. Tekken 7 for example was supported for 7 years and you can jump in with just the base game. This also applies to other games like Street Fighter 5 and 6, Guilty Gear Strive and so on.
Where as if you go back to Street fighter 4 as an example, The support was limited and then they added more with a new game, Super Street Fighter 4, which then got replaced with Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you could not play someone who had Super if you only had Ultra which sucked for the online community.
I do think there is a lot of issues with where Fighting Games are going, but that is more an industry thing. Like battle passes, avatar clothes and other shit as micro transactions.
Well, maybe you are right. But still it feels wrong putting fighters that exist since 1995+ as paid DLC content (or almost half of your fighters are paid locked). Also if you want the whole package it costs you almost double money. I don’t need support, i need a fine product from day one that has everything like BG3, E33, and many indie games. They just want to make games like a service and not products.
While you may not need support for the game. The games would not do as well as they do without it. They are predominantly an online multiplayer game. I am no the biggest Tekken fan, but I am a pretty big fan of Street Fighter, I have over 1000 hours on SF6. If it didnt have the good online multiplayer, and just had just had the offline and single player stuff, I would have something like 100 hours maybe and would have moved on to other games.
And that makes a big difference, to how much I am willing to buy into both characters and costumes, and also the next game.
Tekken 8 and SF6 still have good(for fighting games) single player stuff, but you are looking at a simple story and some arcade modes. SF6 has a bit more of a single player RPG almost for its single player, and I have managed to sink around 80 hours into that, they add more with each new character and I believe it is free.
And to go back to Tekken, Tekken 3 had 22 characters, While Tekken 7 had 36, which then increases to 51 if you add in the addition characters, Tekken 8 currently has ~40 with more being added. They are fine games, with all the content that you want(mostly) in the base game, but the biggest difference between Tekken 3 and Tekken 7 or 8 is it isnt being replaced in a couple years by a new full priced game, it is getting patches and support, additional mechanics and moves, new characters. And the online/competitive community can thrive.
I don’t know. I prefer to unlock characters through playing the game, not with my wallet.
Also you can have 2 different games with 25 fighters each every 4 years, versus having 1 game with 50 fighters for 7 years with the same money as 2 games. I just prefer the 1st option.
Just support the game for 2-3 years and make a better one after. If you need money for the support put DLC with soundtracks and artwork.
I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it’s just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I’ve felt this year.
Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.
I’m at 60hrs and counting. Started new char and world for 1.0 as well as play with my bud and so far we’ve basically caught up to where my pre1.0 save was at.
From time to time I’ll still look at their steam page during sales, because I’d like to play a blockbuster single player FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.
But the price point and reviews always turn me off… Do you have a good alternative to recommend?
If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let’s the game go “on sale”. Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.
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PS: Don’t buy this shit.
You wouldn’t. You’d buy Titanfall 2 for a whopping £2.49, and play a great (if short) single player campaign and then delete it.
If only for Effect and Cause, which is right up there with the best levels in any game.
Why is it a Penguin stood amidst boulders?
Short answer: you wouldn’t buy this game, given your valid criticisms.
This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don’t understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.
Why would anybody support genocidal imperial propaganda in their home?
I made that mistake years ago with COD. Never again.
More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It’s basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So “mixed” means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn’t, which is quite damning.
When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol
I got Necesse too! It was about 6 bucks. Can’t beat that price. Runs on a potato also.
I should play that again, probably start a new world/char because so much has changed since I got it almost 4 years ago.
I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣
There are lots of valid abbreviations that CP uses other than child porn.
And it will never not be funny
I can see somebody inquiring about the amount someone has, and if they would be willing to share any. Boom. On a list.
I can only think of one reason, because it’s the game your friends are playing.
You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don’t buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.
It’s not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.
It’s for people with more money than brains.
Hey some of us are poor and this statement still describes us
It’s why we’re poor
I wish overspending was why I was poor. At least I could fix that.
Ah it’s very simple, you would buy this if you’d made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.
And even then there’s Battlefield 1 which got all the content unlocked now, is fairly cheap, the servers are going strong, and it’s really really fun.
Ah see but, Bf1 is “woke”
Battlefield 1 is the one set in WW 1 where everything is muddy and you can’t even choose a woke skin
Ah but it paints fascism in a negative light, therefore woke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ss1KSdDxE
I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.
Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)…
I think that fighting games are in a much better place with the season passes(character DLC) than previously.
They are a much more long term game, with better balance patches and additions through mechanics to the game. Tekken 7 for example was supported for 7 years and you can jump in with just the base game. This also applies to other games like Street Fighter 5 and 6, Guilty Gear Strive and so on.
Where as if you go back to Street fighter 4 as an example, The support was limited and then they added more with a new game, Super Street Fighter 4, which then got replaced with Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you could not play someone who had Super if you only had Ultra which sucked for the online community.
I do think there is a lot of issues with where Fighting Games are going, but that is more an industry thing. Like battle passes, avatar clothes and other shit as micro transactions.
Well, maybe you are right. But still it feels wrong putting fighters that exist since 1995+ as paid DLC content (or almost half of your fighters are paid locked). Also if you want the whole package it costs you almost double money. I don’t need support, i need a fine product from day one that has everything like BG3, E33, and many indie games. They just want to make games like a service and not products.
While you may not need support for the game. The games would not do as well as they do without it. They are predominantly an online multiplayer game. I am no the biggest Tekken fan, but I am a pretty big fan of Street Fighter, I have over 1000 hours on SF6. If it didnt have the good online multiplayer, and just had just had the offline and single player stuff, I would have something like 100 hours maybe and would have moved on to other games.
And that makes a big difference, to how much I am willing to buy into both characters and costumes, and also the next game.
Tekken 8 and SF6 still have good(for fighting games) single player stuff, but you are looking at a simple story and some arcade modes. SF6 has a bit more of a single player RPG almost for its single player, and I have managed to sink around 80 hours into that, they add more with each new character and I believe it is free.
And to go back to Tekken, Tekken 3 had 22 characters, While Tekken 7 had 36, which then increases to 51 if you add in the addition characters, Tekken 8 currently has ~40 with more being added. They are fine games, with all the content that you want(mostly) in the base game, but the biggest difference between Tekken 3 and Tekken 7 or 8 is it isnt being replaced in a couple years by a new full priced game, it is getting patches and support, additional mechanics and moves, new characters. And the online/competitive community can thrive.
I don’t know. I prefer to unlock characters through playing the game, not with my wallet.
Also you can have 2 different games with 25 fighters each every 4 years, versus having 1 game with 50 fighters for 7 years with the same money as 2 games. I just prefer the 1st option.
Just support the game for 2-3 years and make a better one after. If you need money for the support put DLC with soundtracks and artwork.
Is there volleyball?
Tekken 8 has Volley ball. Tekken 7 got Bowling but that was as a DLC.
When i checked no (Tekken 7). But they released Tekken 8 last year, so maybe they added it (hopefully not in DLC).
I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it’s just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I’ve felt this year.
Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.
That’s really nice! I’m finding it hard to start a proper game, I need some motivation. Hopefully a friend of mine has time to play together :)
DM me if you fail to find friends to play with, they also have a discord server and I see folks playing in there basically daily.
Ooo I stumbled across this yesterday, peaked my interest and I bought it. Looks interesting, can’t wait to play it!
I’m at 60hrs and counting. Started new char and world for 1.0 as well as play with my bud and so far we’ve basically caught up to where my pre1.0 save was at.
If you still play CoD nowadays then you are actively supporting the problem.
From time to time I’ll still look at their steam page during sales, because I’d like to play a blockbuster single player FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.
But the price point and reviews always turn me off… Do you have a good alternative to recommend?
If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let’s the game go “on sale”. Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.