…and still only two PCIe slots. Do you remember when you could slot four cards into your mainboard without going to a “Pro” or HEDT platform? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
It sounds to me that it’s really targeted for music production and like, where you have a whole bunch of interfaces to connect like pads, keyboards, mixers, etc. In that case you don’t really need a lot of PCIe slots. We don’t really use PCIe for audio interfaces anymore since USB has gotten so fast.
We have had multiple slots for decades without problems. And you can get threadripper CPU/motherboards that require even more power yet have plenty of slots.
The x870e chipset only provides 2 20gbit ports (type c only) 12 10gbit and 2 5gbit ports. No idea how the USB 4 ports fit into the equation, but I think the 2 are mandatory.
The headline is a touch sensational- nine of them are bare headers on the motherboard for the front of the case. The I/O shield ‘only’ has 13 type A and three type C.
25 ports is a lot, but I can see anyone making music or streaming wanting this. Keyboard, mouse, microphone and camera (sometimes multiples of both,) controllers, phone, tablet, stream deck, external drives, etc.
Scientific/hobbyist applications where you want to direct connect a lot of data collection sensors.
Or
Developers working with embedded devices who want to have many connected at a time.
Sometimes with speciality hardware hubs can give you issues, or if you need higher overall bandwidth per device they need a connection to the actual controller.
I ended up with two hubs. One sits on top of the desk mostly for transient devices, and one is taped to the bottom of the desk for semi-permanent devices. Then there’s only two cables to the machine.
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…and still only two PCIe slots. Do you remember when you could slot four cards into your mainboard without going to a “Pro” or HEDT platform? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
It sounds to me that it’s really targeted for music production and like, where you have a whole bunch of interfaces to connect like pads, keyboards, mixers, etc. In that case you don’t really need a lot of PCIe slots. We don’t really use PCIe for audio interfaces anymore since USB has gotten so fast.
The CPU on that motherboard is going to be like “What do you want from me!?!?”
Also, the potential powerdrain is asking for stability issues.
We have had multiple slots for decades without problems. And you can get threadripper CPU/motherboards that require even more power yet have plenty of slots.
Imo the lack of slots is companies saving money.
From what I’ve read,it’s that the 870 chipset mandates a PCIe 5 slot which means less lanes for more slots.
And the tendency to provide numerous m.2 slots.
Give me an x4 slot and I can slide a m.2 adaptor in, but if it goes the other way, it’s only by way of a janky hacky mess.
13 USB A and only 3 C ports? Could have done with 3 less A and made 6 more C.
That’s because two of the C ports are 40Gbps USB4. I bet there’s a PCI-E lane limitation they’re hitting.
I’m guessing they’re all just behind an internal hub.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html
The x870e chipset only provides 2 20gbit ports (type c only) 12 10gbit and 2 5gbit ports. No idea how the USB 4 ports fit into the equation, but I think the 2 are mandatory.
Genuinely curious: what’s the use case?
The headline is a touch sensational- nine of them are bare headers on the motherboard for the front of the case. The I/O shield ‘only’ has 13 type A and three type C.
25 ports is a lot, but I can see anyone making music or streaming wanting this. Keyboard, mouse, microphone and camera (sometimes multiples of both,) controllers, phone, tablet, stream deck, external drives, etc.
I could connect all my electronic music gear without hubs. Fun times to get cabling right though.
I can see a couple cases:
Scientific/hobbyist applications where you want to direct connect a lot of data collection sensors.
Or
Developers working with embedded devices who want to have many connected at a time.
Sometimes with speciality hardware hubs can give you issues, or if you need higher overall bandwidth per device they need a connection to the actual controller.
None of these touch the normal consumer though.
This seems like the mobile phone crazy development cycle from the 1990’s.
“We’re just gonna try this, perhaps people will buy it.”
In this case, I’m going with:
“Item discontinued due to lack of interest.”
I would still need an external usb hub, because the cables are often too short from desk to PC.
I ended up with two hubs. One sits on top of the desk mostly for transient devices, and one is taped to the bottom of the desk for semi-permanent devices. Then there’s only two cables to the machine.
I am about to set up this exact setup too. But finding the correct and best hub is not easy.